Why are you a Qabiilist?

[Louis Vuitton Don]

I wouldn’t consider myself a qabilist. I just believe that you should love and build up your family before you build up another nation and people.

For instance would you say that Germans hate French if they (Germans) look out for the interests of their people first? There is more genetic diversity between two Somali qabils than there are between the two European groups I mentioned.

What your saying doesn’t even make sense. Germans and French don’t share a language and a shared history. Somalis do. Germans even look different to the French where all Somalis look the same.

Agreed on building up your home 1st since I’m all for PL. But in terms of nation building and moving forward compared to other countries, then it’s all bad because of our qabil politics.

Building your local community in say a German town is different to Somalia. The Germans don’t look at shit like tribes like Somalis do. A MJ would get laughed at trying to build something in Somaliland and Vice versa. But a German from a small town is the same as one in Berlin.

You would think 30 plus years of war and instability would make Somalis hate qabil.

 

[Macalin M]

Yeah man, I love my family. Nice to know that I can rely on dozens of people, if I need to.

 

[Farm]

What your saying doesn’t even make sense. Germans and French don’t share a language and a shared history. Somalis do. Germans even look different to the French where all Somalis look the same.

Agreed on building up your home 1st since I’m all for PL. But in terms of nation building and moving forward compared to other countries, then it’s all bad because of our qabil politics.

Building your local community in say a German town is different to Somalia. The Germans don’t look at shit like tribes but Somalis do. A MJ would get laughed at trying to build something in Somaliland and Vice versa. But a German from a small town is the same as one in Berlin.

Listen sxb. That should tell you that we aren’t the same country, I can go anywhere in PL from the big cities to the small villages and be welcomed but if I step foot in say Somaliland or the southern regions....I wouldn’t be welcome and that’s normal, the opposite is true too.

We just need to accept reality and stop trying to force this one country myth.

 

[Louis Vuitton Don]

Listen sxb. That should tell you that we aren’t the same country, I can go anywhere in PL from the big cities to the small villages and be welcomed but if I step foot in say Somaliland or the southern regions....I wouldn’t be welcome and that’s normal, the opposite is true too.

We just need to accept reality and stop trying to force this one country myth.

The fuxked up thing is you might be right

 

[Jiron]

I agree, qabiil is ball and chain to our success. We can pretend it doesn’t exist or ignore it (pre 91) and it will result in a violent eruption like a volcano, we can work with it and the result will be our current status (weak and distrustful) or we can address this problem and work together by raising awareness and completely getting rid of it root and branch once and for all

 

[Ayubi]

I wouldn’t consider myself a qabilist. I just believe that you should love and build up your family before you build up another nation and people.

For instance would you say that Germans hate the French if they (Germans) look out for the interests of their people first? There is more genetic diversity between two Somali qabils than there are between the two European groups I mentioned.

You can’t compare German and French to different Somali clans, that’s like comparing Apple to oranges. Compare German or French (Which are ethnicities) to Somali which is an ethnic group. Those 2 ethnic groups are united internally, Somalis are divided over nonsense such as clans.

 

[Macalin M]

I agree, qabiil is ball and chain to our success. We can pretend it doesn’t exist or ignore it (pre 91) and it will result in a violent eruption like a volcano, we can work with it and the result will be our current status (weak and distrustful) or we can address this problem and work together by raising awareness and completely getting rid of it root and branch once and for all

You Can’t get rid of qabiil. It’s literally in our names.

 

[Farm]

You can’t compare German and French to different Somali clans, that’s like comparing Apple to oranges. Compare German or French (Which are ethnicities) to Somali which is an ethnic group. Those 2 ethnic groups are united internally, Somalis are divided over nonsense such as clans.

How is Somali an ethnicity? Same language many ethnicities share a language, religion same thing etc.

Somali is a social construct like anything else, Europeans just grouped the whole region together so it could be easier to colonize but our real ethnicities are our lineages like Majeerteen, Isaaq, Habar Gidir, Ciise etc.

 

[Faahiye]

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How is Somali an ethnicity? Same language many ethnicities share a language, religion same thing etc.

Somali is a social construct like anything else, Europeans just grouped the whole region together so it could be easier to colonize but our real ethnicities are our lineages like Majeerteen, Isaaq, Habar Gidir, Ciise etc.

ethnicity
/ɛθˈnɪsɪti/
noun

1. the fact or state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition.

 

[Farm]

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ethnicity
/ɛθˈnɪsɪti/
noun

1. the fact or state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition.

There is no common national or cultural tradition.

 

[Jiron]

You Can’t get rid of qabiil. It’s literally in our names.

I agree with you, but we can reduce its significance to the point it will just be family name and not the common denominator of every problem.

 

[Macalin M]

I agree with you, but we can reduce its significance to the point it will just be family name and not the common denominator of every problem.

Do you speak Af-Maay? I’ve never met an maay maay speaker.

 

[Ayubi]

How is Somali an ethnicity? Same language many ethnicities share a language, religion same thing etc.

Somali is a social construct like anything else, Europeans just grouped the whole region together so it could be easier to colonize but our real ethnicities are our lineages like Majeerteen, Isaaq, Habar Gidir, Ciise etc.

Lool, delusional. Those are clans which many have fake lineages which cannot be proven and has been debunked including Darood, Majeerteen, Isaaq, Hawiye and Harti.

The only reason why you hate such a concept called unity cuz you’re a qabiilist yourself so you rather keep the qabyaalad disease going so your clan can benefit. You’re selfish and your post is a pefect example of a low iq. Talk to @Apollo about genetic and ethnicity.

 

[Farm]

Lool, delusional. Those are clans which many have fake lineages which cannot be proven and has been debunked including Darood, Majeerteen, Isaaq, Hawiye and Harti. The only reason why you hate such a concept called unity cuz you’re a qabiilist yourself so you rather keep the qabyaalad disease going so your clan can benefit. You’re selfish and your post is a pefect example of a low iq. Talk to @Apollo about genetic and ethnicity.

Majeerteen doesn’t exist?


I thought this was a serious discussion....

Anyways as I said earlier I’m far from a qabilist.

 

[Ayubi]

Majeerteen doesn’t exist?


I thought this was a serious discussion....

Anyways as I said earlier I’m far from a qabilist.

It is a serious discussion. I’m just talking about the bs claim you made such as “different clans are Ethnicities” or how “Somalis don’t share the same Ethnic group” which is false.

Majeerteen does exist, just a clan like any other clan.

 

[Jiron]

Do you speak Af-Maay? I’ve never met an maay maay speaker.

No, but it’s such a fascinating dialect, I just might have to pick it up

 

[Dharbash]

Why? Qabiil is retarded wallahi. You do realize Somali qabiil is a confederation, not an actual lineage? So why are we fighting for something so useless such as qabiil confederations? Darood, Hawiye and Isaaq are fake ass clans.

Also, most of y’all live in the diaspora so I never really understood why your obsessed with that shit. Do you got lives? If your a diaspora who cares about qabiil then your a lowlife with nothing going for themselves.

Somalia needs unity, not division based on santa claus low iq fake ass clans.

I agree 100% with what you had to say, clans have no scientific basis and are absolute bs.

Somalis are typically the same (except for Madowweyne for obvious reasons) why can’t we just unite and develop subhanallah.

Ethiopia has been given billions to up their defence by France and December 17 they will have a satellite of their own. This worries me, please guys give up your ways and just be wadani, forget all the clan enclave bullshit.

I seriously contemplate giving up on my own beautiful home country because of the qabilists

 

[imperialist]

@Farm Say any of that crap in Puntland and I guarantee that people will laugh their asses of, thinking who is this crazy guy.

 

[Farm]

@Farm Say any of that crap in Puntland and I guarantee that people will laugh their asses of, thinking who is this crazy guy.

Even if that were the case, it still doesn’t change the reality on the ground.

 

[Galool]

I was adopted and made to believe i was the wrong qabiil until I got older and found out the truth.

Imagine,I was defending my adopted clan & was getting closer with anyone from this adopted clan. When the news broke out to me I was devastated. I was taught that my real clan were the enemies. Why was I lied to my whole life.

I then took a conscious decision to never be qabilist again & see qabiil as just a tool for identity. Every clan has there different histories & ways of seeing other clans so you realise there's no winning in this qabyaalad stuff.