They’re low key fruity. They can’t speak the language so attempt any connection they canHoly based, too bad random Somali incels in London flats are obsessed with their noses and hair like that’s gonna get them jannah or money
Why are Somalis so xenophobic ?
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And this is how Warsangeli was created
AdoonkaAlle
Ragna qowl baa xira, dumarna meher baa xira.
In the futuh al habash somalis are frequently mentioned as a group, respective qabils, being part of the imam's army and also being against him as well. You can find better translations of the book on amazon etc but for now the following pdf will suffice.
Futuh al habash pdf
I.M. Lewis, A modern history of the Somali: nation and state in the Horn of Africa p.25
The first clearly written reference to the Somali speaking people is found in the writings of the 11th century al-Idrisi and thirteenth century ibn-Said. Here we learn that Marka which consisted of more than fifty villages, was the capital of one of the Somali ethnic groups ie hawiye. So unless you want to claim that hawiye weren't somali when mentioned here this is yet another piece of evidence reinforcing our historical existence as an ethnicity prior to european colonization.
AdoonkaAlle
Ragna qowl baa xira, dumarna meher baa xira.
It’s a revisionist attempt to dissociate us from any meaningful history & culture. Even the colonialists attested to our historical identity so why in the world would an ethnic somali make claims that even cadanka would find nonsensical ?
It’s not that true we were not United, as there were always different sultanates ruling over regions where different qabils settled. It’s the decline of these sultanates & subsequent invasions by amxaaro iyo europeans that has led to our current circumstances.
The world prior to the 19&20th century was one where different aristocracies governed either vast regions or small kingdoms that were independent within the same region. Countries like Italy, Germany etc only became unified in the late 19th & early 20 th century. Prior to this you had different city states fighting each other to gain supremacy etc
The same was true for us as somalis laakin dadkeena portray us as if we were the only ones not united when the reality is that this was the norm for the majority prior to the establishment of modern states.
yeah..... you were definitely aiming to get that platinum or trending thread in
I regret engaging with this thread, trolling is getting obvious
you know damn well they're actively trying to claim it as theirs and that we didn't come up with it
Would you say Carab Salax who look identical to ethnic Somalis and are all MJs since that is what 98% of the blood is, apart from their founding father a Mehri aren’t Somali?
Tbh we weren’t. Example the Warsengeli Sultanate wasn’t ruling the Hawiyes and other Southern clans. The Ajurans weren’t ruling the Isaa for instance. We were before colonization never united and that’s a fact. But we understood we were an ethnic group and only married each other and saw each other as one peoples with separate rulerships.
Also, clan warfare is an unfortunate part of our history. The Issa would often terrorize the Samaroons. The Isaaqs will often fight the Dhulbahante. This is our history. We never United, but we saw each other as one people and would often arrange marriages to halt wars and the like. We understood that we were highly related and homogeneous
Yep.
Yep, it was normal for most of the world. It’s fine whilst we weren’t United, we were and saw each other as one ethnic group and have done so for thousands of years. Our genetics shows that Somalis would often marry Somalis from other clans but avoid foreigners. Even our own DNA showcases that we as Somalis have always existed and that our ancestors whilst politically separated saw each other as being one heritage and kin. We were always one people.
AdoonkaAlle
Ragna qowl baa xira, dumarna meher baa xira.
I'm not referring to a complete unified state spanning from waqooyi ila konfuur as that didn't happen but localised ones even the example you gave of warsengeli sultanate they had to reign over other qabils that lived near to them at one point in their history. The sultanates of ifat iyo adal were not only multi qabil but also multi ethnic as well, you had qabils from hawiye, darood, dir etc to other ethnicities such canfar, hadiya, etc.
In the central & south you had hobyo, ajuuran, geledi, etc that were also multi qabil representing the different qabils that lived in those regions. In the adal sultanate, imam ahmed used to get support in terms of troops etc all the way koonfur ila waqooyi as he would dispatch letters seeking help etc. Even during the time of sayiid cabdullah you had qabils all the way from central ila konfuur supporting in various ways etc.
So to claim that there's never been any sort of unity amongst somalis in the past is most certainly not true at all. Yes there were qabil wars but this in no way detracts from our history that there has always been a localised central authority that ruled over regions where different qabils lived. In fact i would argue that it's the decline & destruction of these centralised authorities that has led to the increase of qabil wars since the era of colonialism until now.
Khaem
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They may have a different patriarch but if their blood is 98% somali then they're somali no shit.
These are a minority of cases and such peoples are somali.
No such thing as cadcad to begin with if you mean banadiris say it which chest, banadiris have their own history to claim you won't see any banadiri claiming lamagoodle history. Furthermore it's always lamagoodles claiming banadiri history. Whys it always a lamagoodle saying xamar unuka leh and not a banadiri saying beledweyne unuka leh?
That is true only reer xamar contributed to xamar prior to colonization that should be obvious, Indians had more contributions than lamagoodles they even had their own Shia masjid. It's the truth not disrespect. There's a reason reer xamars weren't the ones destroying xamarweyne and shingaani, infact it was the immigrant hawiyes
Where were all those 50 hut villages? Did they just happen to all be buried in sand? how come there's no mention of hawiyes in manuscripts or oral history of the region. Where they not Muslim? Why aren't there any masjids built by them?
“Immigrant hawyies” “Indians had more contributions than lamagoodles” You have to go back.
Being ethnically somali isn't relevant, it shouldn't even be brought up, barawa is in Somalia currently so that makes them somali
Reer xamar and reer barawa have their own cultures , someone from xamar or barawa wouldn't have same culture as someone from masagaway or galkacyo, there's no such thing as being culturally Somalia as Somalia is diverse culturally. Inhabitants of barawa and xamar and all banaadir became Somali when Italy colonized and when Somali identity was forced on all inhabitants of modern day somalia
We'll send you back to Ethiopia
They have their own city in their land, barawa isn't in the middle of baadiya in galmudug mate
No such thing as somalized Indian, they're barawani and that should suffice , obviously you can tell from the attire don't play daft
Being mixed with somali depends on family, having 50% Somali or more doesn't change anything about them being from Somalia or not it just means that their family has mixed for more generations, a banadiri with zero Somali dna is still as somali
“A banadiri with zero Somali dna is still as somali” kkkkk
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