Why are Somalis so xenophobic ?

[Khaem]

In what country are people who lived there for centuries, share 50 % of the main ethnicity’s DNA, share the same religion, attacked like how Benadiris are? It literally doesn’t exist. I don’t understand it. There are more lamogoodles in either America or UK than there are Benadiris in Somalia. They’re a tiny demographic, what’s this hyper focus on them???? They are not even 1 % of the population.

There is no hyper focus on them. Maybe Bantus but not benadiris. They aren't thought about too much.

You see a video of benadiri and you have somali mocking it. Go to a video of Somalilanders and you have somalis in the comments mocking it. Same with every clan/demographic.

Somalis violate everyone it's not that deep.

 

[World]

There is no hyper focus on them. Maybe Bantus but not benadiris. They aren't thought about too much.

You see a video of benadiri and you have somali mocking it. Go to a video of Somalilanders and you have somalis in the comments mocking it.

Somalis violate everyone it's not that deep.

Lol in every Benadiri video, you have Macrobian weirdos like you saying to them that they should claim “Kenya” or Arabia/India. That the people who for centuries were the majority population in Xamar, Merca and Barawe pre colonialism can’t “claim” Somalia. You belong in the desert with your goats, they’re the ones who built Southern Somali cities.

Mind you, these are completely unrelated videos where it could just be a girl going out to eat with her friends and they are making a tiktok. Just because her identity is Benadiri, you racist xenophobic trolls flood her comments.

Fucking losers.

 

[Khaem]

Lol in every Benadiri video, you have Macrobian weirdos like you saying to them that they should claim “Kenya” or Arabia/India. That the people who for centuries were the majority population in Xamar, Merca and Barawe pre colonialism can’t “claim” Somalia.

Mind you, these are completely unrelated videos where it could just be a girl going out to eat with her friends and they are making a tiktok. Just because her identity is Benadiri, you racist xenophobic trolls flood her comments.

Fucking losers.

I don't get videos of benadiri or Bantus so idk the comments.

 

[Angelina]

In what country are people who lived there for centuries, share 50 % of the main ethnicity’s DNA, share the same religion, attacked like how Benadiris are?

Apart from young Western weirdos, who actually attacks them? You won’t find actual southerners attack them who actually live with them. It’s the Western Somalis who behave like this, and they happen to be a particular age group and male.

During war, when they were attacked, they weren’t attacked for being Banadaris but attacked due to not having large clan protection. Somalis abused each other. Even ethnic Somalis like some Daroods were abused. Hawiyes abused each other and the list goes on.

It literally doesn’t exist. I don’t understand it. There are more lamogoodles in either America or UK than there are Benadiris in Somalia. They’re a tiny demographic, what’s this hyper focus on them???? They are not even 1 % of the population.

They’re hyper focused because many have never seen them in real life. If they had cadcad family members, people in their community who are them ect, go back home ect they wouldn’t be behaving this way.

Also, it’s the phenomenon I was talking about. Attacking women and the ethnic minorities. A lot of young men are going through an internal crisis and throwing their weight around those they perceive as weak is how they’re coping.

 

[World]

Apart from young Western weirdos, who actually attacks them? You won’t find actual southerners attack them who actually live with them. It’s the Western Somalis who behave like this, and they happen to be a particular age group and male.

During war, when they were attacked, they weren’t attacked for being Banadaris but attacked due to not having large clan protection. Somalis abused each other. Even ethnic Somalis like some Daroods were abused. Hawiyes abused each other and the list goes on.

They’re hyper focused because many have never seen them in real life. If they had cadcad family members, people in their community who are them ect, go back home ect they wouldn’t be behaving this way.

Also, it’s the phenomenon I was talking about. Attacking women and the ethnic minorities. A lot of young men are going through an internal crisis and throwing their weight around those they perceive as weak is how they’re coping.

Do you think these people have friends in real life? There’s no way that normal, socially adjusted people think or act like them. They’re literally refugees in the white man’s country.

 

[Lumo]

This whole thread is emotional qashin on both sides.

Nationality ≠ Ethnicity

Dhiig never changes a qurbajoog bona-fide 100% somali is more legit than faux indians with ajnabi origins. Same with bantus.

I know a Benadiri that got rejected by a adeer to marry his daughter due to his "linage" wich was so poor he had to claim a city.

People need to make distinctions between ethnic and non ethnic without discriminating. Otherwise you end up with cuqdad which leads to conflict and revisionist history. I've already seen in it this thread. Smdh

 

[𝕃𝕠𝕣𝕕 𝕋𝕙𝕣𝕖𝕤𝕙]

Horta there are historical records prior to european colonization that affirm the usage of the word somali like in futuh al habash, ethiopian chronicles. Laakin most importantly what determines our identity as somali isn't a historical record but our lineage. Whether it's recorded or not it has no bearing on how we identified ourselves be it in the past, present or future.

If we didn't consider ourselves to be somali in the past, what ethnicity did our ancestors believe they belonged to ? furthermore how did the europeans come to identify us as somalis if we didn't view ourselves as such ?

We're the reason why europeans referred to us as somalis, proving once again that historical records aren't what determines our ethnic identity.

Well before Colonization Burton visited the Somali peninsula and called us…..wait for it….Somalis. The idea of the Somali identity only forming during and after colonization is a false one.

Whilst Somali people were never United and were divided via clan lines, we still had a sense of identity. We fought each other, killed each other but still married one another and viewed each other as equals who have the same language, history and heritage.

I would appreciate if either of you could provide said sources

 

[Chase]

Lol in every Benadiri video, you have Macrobian weirdos like you saying to them that they should claim “Kenya” or Arabia/India. That the people who for centuries were the majority population in Xamar, Merca and Barawe pre colonialism can’t “claim” Somalia. You belong in the desert with your goats, they’re the ones who built Southern Somali cities.

Mind you, these are completely unrelated videos where it could just be a girl going out to eat with her friends and they are making a tiktok. Just because her identity is Benadiri, you racist xenophobic trolls flood her comments.

Fucking losers.

It's a online thing, very recent might I add. In Puntland you have the Carab Saalax, it's acknowledged they don't have a lineage, but say anything to them and you'll have your jaw rocked, they've integrated so much they're practically a part of MJ itself.

 

[Angelina]

It's a online thing, very recent might I add. In Puntland you have the Carab Saalax, it's acknowledged they don't have a lineage, but say anything to them and you'll have your jaw rocked, they've integrated so much they're practically a part of MJ itself.

They’ve integrated entirely with most of their blood being 100% Somali apart from their founding patriarch who was Mehri. It would be downright insanity to claim they’re not Somali. You actually have a lot of Somalis like that, but they’ve been taken in by the major tribes they lived next to so they’re none the wiser. DNA testing has shown us that a minority of Somalis forefathers were in fact immigrants who married local women whose children have been added to the clan.

 

[Mozart]

 

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[Karbaaash]

Any ajnabi marriage video ends up like this, who is too blame at this point? Somali Tiktok is a very toxic place which all somalis contributed too. the girls & boys with their gender war, you’ve got qabiil fkd which ive noticed even impacted the younger gen since this the first time we share a FYP with them, you’ve even got bantu/Benadiiri people going too ajnabi lives insulting geeljires and seekin validation from madows. So all in all im not suprised.

Somebody mentioned Carab salaax which is kinda dumb. MJ people accept them, they have never been influential in modern Somali history nor have they suffered greatly in the civil war. The rer xamar people were in SYL, had known faanans and owned alot properties before civil war but today walaa jeesa in Xamar. Barwanii / carab saalax might be a better comparison in terms of relevance & most somalis dont know nothing ab them only difference is the Barwanii went through alot more harm.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

It's a online thing, very recent might I add. In Puntland you have the Carab Saalax, it's acknowledged they don't have a lineage, but say anything to them and you'll have your jaw rocked, they've integrated so much they're practically a part of MJ itself.

What? Carab Saalax are Somalised Al-Mahra Arabs, they're not a people with "no lineage".
Yes, they are close to MJ, because their entire maternal line is MJ or other Bah-MJ Harti.
They are simply Somalised Arabs, who do know their true roots and have ties to it. After the civil war, they were even given citizenship in Yemen.

Their Sultan from the Mahra State of Qishn and Socotra has close ties with the Majerteen Sultanate and he visits Puntland.

Again, not a people with "no lineage".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahra_Sultanate

Their highest-ranking Sultan:

 

[Chase]

What? Carab Saalax are Somalised Al-Mahra Arabs, they're not a people with "no lineage".
Yes, they are close to MJ, because their entire maternal line is MJ or other Bah-MJ Harti.
They are simply Somalised Arabs, who do know their true roots and have ties to it. After the civil war, they were even given citizenship in Yemen.

Their Sultan from the Mahra State of Qishn and Socotra has close ties with the Majerteen Sultanate and he visits Puntland.

Again, not a people with "no lineage".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahra_Sultanate

Their highest-ranking Sultan:

They do, waa dad Muslim ah, my post was more addressing these "muh lineage" guys always harping on about Abtirsi, my point is that Carab Saalax origins are not technically Somali, but they've integrated so much it's meaningless to dissociate them anymore, I consider them fully MJ with a slight caveat.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

They do, waa dad Muslim ah, my post was more addressing these "muh lineage" guys always harping on about Abtirsi, my point is that Carab Saalax origins are not technically Somali, but they've integrated so much it's meaningless to dissociate them anymore, I consider them fully MJ with a slight caveat.

The Majeerteen Sultanate and other Harti, traded with the outside world for Centuries and this resulted in migration from Majeerteenia to Arab countries, and the migration of our Arab trading partners to our land. So, we have a large Arabised Harti community in Salalah, Oman, and the Arabs, like the Meheri, have a large community in our lands.

Nobody disassociates Carab Salaxs from Somalinimo, they look 100% Somali at this point anyway. There was even a contingent of Meheri soldiers in Futux Al Habesha (Holy War against Xabashis), 500 years ago!

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Anyway about this topic.

I heard that when Somalia fought Ethiopia in 1977, the Barwani language, Chimini, was used so that the Ethiopians didn't understand our communication? Let's put some respect on them.

Don't be 'Abaal-laawe'!!!

 

[Chase]

The Majeerteen Sultanate and other Harti, traded with the outside world for Centuries and this resulted in migration from Majeerteenia to Arab countries, and the migration of our Arab trading partners to our land. So, we have a large Arabised Harti community in Salalah, Oman, and the Arabs, like the Meheri, have a large community in our lands.

Nobody disassociates Carab Salaxs from Somalinimo, they look 100% Somali at this point anyway. There was even a contingent of Meheri soldiers in Futux Al Habesha, 500 years ago!

Which was exactly the point I was touching on earlier, try dissociating them with folks back home and you'll get your jaw rocked, they're practically Somali.

 

[World]

Also another thing i’ve found very weird is that in other countries, when your traditional cultural attire is appreciated and worn by neighbours, it’s seen positively.

However when Oromos who border Somalis wear baatis, or other somali traditional clothing, so many comments are attacking them with comments like “that’s somali clothing why u wearing it” or telling them to stop wearing it.

it’s too much weird xenophobia

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

For those of you who like history. Some more historical context.

At one point, Somali port towns were the centre of the ancient trading world. Read up on this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periplus_of_the_Erythraean_Sea

You can imagine how many people came to trade, or who never left. If your people are from a trading town or the coast, you shouldn't be xenophobic at all. Your people's existence depended on trade and having visitors and new neighbours.

These halfwits and I suspect, foreign agents, on social media, who constantly insult other Africans, mixed-race Somalis, etc, want to destroy our image. Do you know what kind of ramifications this will have on our trading communities across Africa and the rest of the world?

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Also another thing i’ve found very weird is that in other countries, when your traditional cultural attire is appreciated and worn by neighbours, it’s seen positively.

However when Oromos who border Somalis wear baatis, or other somali traditional clothing, so many comments are attacking them with comments like “that’s somali clothing why u wearing it” or telling them to stop wearing it.

it’s too much weird xenophobia

To be fair, with the Oromos that we've seen online, they don't give credit to Somalis and act like it's their clothing. This beef is also heightened, because of their unbridled illegal immigration, attacks on our lands and so forth. Somalis don't say anything to Commorrians, who have wholly adopted Alindi, or the Ugandas who use it and call it "Kikoy" or something.