Where do your political beliefs lie

[Yukon_Niner]

That’s the western definition of conservatism Somalia was a somewhat secular state where tribe overrides religion the war was due to tribal tensions and created a anarchic state not islam

Honestly I'm feeling a bit bad. You do realise I'm trolling you right? I mean you have to be stupid to believe what I've written (though there are users here that do).

You're a bit too easy to get to

 

[Radical]

Tbh, I only like the immigration stance when it comes to the leftwing in the West. Never really benefited from the left otherwise besides low tuition fees and some student grants. But the high taxes are killing me now.

People who largely benifit from left wing policies are those who are economically challenged, which is most of Somalia at the moment, so I still don't see why not

 

[abdullah233]

Honestly I'm feeling a bit bad. You do realise I'm trolling you right? I mean you have to be stupid to believe what I've written (though there are users here that do).

You're a bit too easy to get to

Trust me I’ve heard x-Muslims say more crazy shit so why wouldn’t I believe that you actually mean that.

 

[abdullah233]

People who largely benifit from left wing policies are those who are economically challenged, which is most of Somalia at the moment, so I still don't see why not

Western socialist policy’s would not work in Somalia nobody would work at all that’s for the caddan people.

 

[Yukon_Niner]

Trust me I’ve heard x-Muslims say more crazy shit so why wouldn’t I believe that you actually mean that.

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[Apollo]

People who largely benifit from left wing policies are those who are economically challenged, which is most of Somalia at the moment, so I still don't see why not

I want Singapore-like conservative neoliberal authoritarianism for Somalia.

I don't trust Somalis with gibs and handouts.

 

[Nak Muay]

For those being leftist in foreign counties while right wing back home

Clearly there is a certain thing among the left in which you fancied, probably healthcare, probably immigration laws, if so why not extend those values towards Somalia?

I'm only seeing selfish hypocrisy here, please explain

And suffer the same fate as cadaans? Let's welcome the entire horn into our nations while we become a minority. No fucking thanks sxb.

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[reer]

Western socialist policy’s would not work in Somalia nobody would work at all that’s for the caddan people.

imagine somalia having welfare the economy would collapse

 

[abdullah233]

imagine somalia having welfare the economy would collapse

Handouts based on qabil

 

[Apollo]

Authoritarian rightwing:

Authoritarian leftwing:

 

[Abaq]

In the West, I used to be left wing growing up, now I'm working and paying taxes I'm right wing.

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[Radical]

Western socialist policy’s would not work in Somalia nobody would work at all that’s for the caddan people.

I agree the contemporary state of the country isn't adequately capable of sustaining those policies, but as everything in politics, it's a step by step process, Somalia right now is right wing, and it clearly isn't working, you'll never see success untill you try something new

 

[abdullah233]

Authoritarian rightwing:

Authoritarian leftwing:

Capitalism is inherently better than socialism

 

[abdullah233]

I agree the contemporary state of the country isn't adequately capable of sustaining those policies, but as everything in politics, it's a step by step process, Somalia right now is right wing, and it clearly isn't working, you'll never see success untill you try something new

You have other factors like qabil that caddan people left back in the 13th century that hinder growth Somalia is a whole different ball park Leftist democracy isn’t one shoe fits all

 

[Radical]

You have other factors like qabil that caddan people left back in the 13th century that hinder growth Somalia is a whole different ball park Leftist democracy isn’t one shoe fits all

Qabiil is directly linked with the individualism and us vs them mentality that the right promotes, as long as it exists qabiil is there to stay.

 

[Apollo]

In the West, I used to be left wing growing up, now I'm working and paying taxes I'm right wing.

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The center-right in the West don't lower taxes for the middle class.

They only lower it for the upper-upper class.

 

[abdullah233]

Qabiil is directly linked with the individualism and us vs them mentality that the right promotes, as long as it exists qabiil is there to stay.

When Qabil leaves the culture conservatism would be the way forward Somalis and left don’t add up look at section 8. Qabil doesn’t have modern political tendencies it is an outdated 68 iq system

 

[Abaq]

The center-right in the West don't lower taxes for the middle class.

They only lower it for the upper-upper class.

I know, but they don't raise them as much as the Left.

 

[abdullah233]

@Fay @Halimak what are your thoughts

 

[Apollo]

I know, but they don't raise them as much as the Left.

It's a myth that the Dems in the US or Labour in the UK raise taxes on regular people.

There are charts and detailed figures out there. Google them.

The main difference between the two (center-left vs center-right) is that they tax the elite more while the other group give the elite more tax reductions.