What qualifies as zina?

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NotAjnabi

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WARAYA WHERE IS THE SUNNAH?:faysalwtf: i swear you obtained the sunnah from the hadith and the quran.
:ayaanswag: Abayo I think you need to re-read what I wrote earlier as I gave you a full answer to this question.


You didn't read my post

You said the hadith were written 200 years after the prophets death.

That is a lie because the first person to compile a well known book of hadith is Imam malik in his Muwatta

Imam Malik was born 79 years after the prophets

If imam malik published al muwatta between the ages of 20 and 40 then that Means Al Muwatta became known 100 to 120 years after the death of the prophet

Further weakening your point is the fact that malik would have had to start compoling before publication and the fact that well known tabeen and sahaba had books of hadith they kept for personal use. This means that the hadith were well circulated before malik.

So please stop spreading dalala and seek ilm before you misguide someone other than yourself
All of the major hadith collection, from Sahih bukhari, to Sunan al-sughra were compiled 200 years after the prophets death, so how about you pipe the f*ck down before accusing people of being liar?These are the most authentic hadith collections and they were compiled 200 years after the prophet's death, isku xishood, iyo inta waqti haaysatid, isbadel.

Hadith being circulated orally and being written are two different things, after the prophets death many false hadith were being spread orally, this is common history. Thus giving the need for a hadith collection by Al bukhari. This further adds to my point that the hadith are usually false and unauthentic. Just use the sunnah.
 

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:ayaanswag: Abayo I think you need to re-read what I wrote earlier as I gave you a full answer to this question.



All of the major hadith collection, from Sahih bukhari, to Sunan al-sughra were compiled 200 years after the prophets death, so how about you pipe the f*ck down before accusing people of being liar?These are the most authentic hadith collections and they were compiled 200 years after the prophet's death, isku xishood, iyo inta waqti haaysatid, isbadel.

Hadith being circulated orally and being written are two different things, after the prophets death many false hadith were being spread orally, this is common history. Thus giving the need for a hadith collection by Al bukhari. This further adds to my point that the hadith are usually false and unauthentic. Just use the sunnah.
Fear Allah
 

NotAjnabi

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Apostrophe!!! Waa maxay?? And that retarded sheep was meant for the dhagax dude so calm your jeans down!
You might as well eat food since you've opened your fast.
:whoa: iss dijii. Im pleasantly surprised by this guy. I used to thibk he was an apostate. This is good news wallalo.
I am purist muslim, I rely on the words of God rather than worshipping dead men like these salafis do.
 
:ayaanswag: Abayo I think you need to re-read what I wrote earlier as I gave you a full answer to this question.



All of the major hadith collection, from Sahih bukhari, to Sunan al-sughra were compiled 200 years after the prophets death, so how about you pipe the f*ck down before accusing people of being liar?These are the most authentic hadith collections and they were compiled 200 years after the prophet's death, isku xishood, iyo inta waqti haaysatid, isbadel.

Hadith being circulated orally and being written are two different things, after the prophets death many false hadith were being spread orally, this is common history. Thus giving the need for a hadith collection by Al bukhari. This further adds to my point that the hadith are usually false and unauthentic. Just use the sunnah.
Thanks for ignoring my point

But the fact that you're so quick to insult muslims in debate and outside debate is indicative of the manhaj and sunnah that you claim to follow.

May Allah guide us
 
:ayaanswag: Abayo I think you need to re-read what I wrote earlier as I gave you a full answer to this question.



All of the major hadith collection, from Sahih bukhari, to Sunan al-sughra were compiled 200 years after the prophets death, so how about you pipe the f*ck down before accusing people of being liar?These are the most authentic hadith collections and they were compiled 200 years after the prophet's death, isku xishood, iyo inta waqti haaysatid, isbadel.

Hadith being circulated orally and being written are two different things, after the prophets death many false hadith were being spread orally, this is common history. Thus giving the need for a hadith collection by Al bukhari. This further adds to my point that the hadith are usually false and unauthentic. Just use the sunnah.
Nah you actually didnt answer my question.
 

NotAjnabi

Somalilander
Thanks for ignoring my point

But the fact that you're so quick to insult muslims in debate and outside debate is indicative of the manhaj and sunnah that you claim to follow.

May Allah guide us
You calling me a liar during ramadan is an insult by itself. You know what they say, an eye for an eye. Hadith are unreliable, and I have proven that through and through, end of story.
 
:ayaanswag: Abayo I think you need to re-read what I wrote earlier as I gave you a full answer to this question.



All of the major hadith collection, from Sahih bukhari, to Sunan al-sughra were compiled 200 years after the prophets death, so how about you pipe the f*ck down before accusing people of being liar?These are the most authentic hadith collections and they were compiled 200 years after the prophet's death, isku xishood, iyo inta waqti haaysatid, isbadel.

Hadith being circulated orally and being written are two different things, after the prophets death many false hadith were being spread orally, this is common history. Thus giving the need for a hadith collection by Al bukhari. This further adds to my point that the hadith are usually false and unauthentic. Just use the sunnah.


U are made out of dhagax saaxib nothing can break the barrier in your brain!!

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Ill ask this and if you answer it sufficiently i agree with the whole purist muslim thing. Where is the sunnah? Is it a seperate book completely? Or is it within the hadiths? ( which is what i assume) and what are the sources of the sunnah and when were they compiled?
 
who invited the gaal? :ivers:

Zeinab

As a “gaal” I’m worried in case I’m captured and become your slave and you rape me.

Sorry, i know it’s only allowed Muslim men to rape slave girls. Doesn’t the rape of a slave girl make you uneasy as a cultured and educated woman? Or, your brainwashing is complete and you don’t care about other women being raped by men justifiable on your religion?
 
Zeinab

As a “gaal” I’m worried in case I’m captured and become your slave and you rape me.

Sorry, i know it’s only allowed Muslim men to rape slave girls. Doesn’t the rape of a slave girl make you uneasy as a cultured and educated woman? Or, your brainwashing is complete and you don’t care about other women being raped by men justifiable on your religion?
:comeon: save that for another thread. It aint what this ones about.
 

NotAjnabi

Somalilander
Ill ask this and if you answer it sufficiently i agree with the whole purist muslim thing. Where is the sunnah? Is it a seperate book completely? Or is it within the hadiths? ( which is what i assume) and what are the sources of the sunnah and when were they compiled?
To summarise the sunnah is something the Prophet has done, confirmed. Whilst a hadith is a so called saying of the prophet often reported by one individual to the other.

A hadith at the very most can only be a possibility of being correct. Whilst the sunnah is confirmed to be correct, ma ii fahmte?

The sunnah has always been clear in what it stands for whilst a hadith needed to be understood by it's narrators, (And therefore interpreted in different ways) by following narrators involved in the transmission of the hadith. Thus also why hadith can contradict the Quran.

The sunnah is from Kitab al sunnah, whilst the hadith come from the different hadith collections, for example Sahih al-Bukhari.

I usually have no problem with hadith if they are supported by the Quran, but when they're not I usually argue against them. Here's a verse from Quran I think helps clarify that better

“And if the messenger were to invent any sayings in Our name, We should certainly seize him by his right hand, And We should certainly then cut off the artery of his heart. Nor could any of you withhold him (from Our wrath). But verily this is a Message for the God-fearing” [Quran 69:44-48] "Am I, then, to look unto anyone but God for judgment when it is He who has bestowed upon you from on high this divine writ, clearly spelling out the truth?" [Quran 6:114]


Hopefully this clarifies it more for you.
 
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