Was ogaden ever taken?

[Dal7]

I would really appreciate feedback, I see people here say it was given but a person told me now it was conqured in 1890 menelik expansion. Thx.

 

[Som]

Ogaden was taken by Menelik. In the late 1800s Menelik attacked Harar , Somalis cane ti help Hararis because they knew they were the next target of Ethiopian expansion. Unfortunately they didn't succeed and Habashis expanded all over what is now Hararghe Ethiopia (Harar area + Ogaden region). In 1935 Ethiopia was conquered by Italians who ruled it for about 5-6 years untill the British came and kicked them out during WW2. After defeating Italians the Brits gave everything back to the Ethiopian monarchy but kept parts of Ogaden under their temporary control until the end of the war. After the WW2 Britain gave back Ogaden to Ethiopia in the early 1950s despite much protests from Somalis who where waiting for Somalia's independence which was scheduled for 1960 in order to unite with the Somali republic

 

[Dal7]

Ogaden was taken by Menelik. In the late 1800s Menelik attacked Harar , Somalis cane ti help Hararis because they knew they were the next target of Ethiopian expansion. Unfortunately they didn't succeed and Habashis expanded all over what is now Hararghe Ethiopia (Harar area + Ogaden region). In 1935 Ethiopia was conquered by Italians who ruled it for about 5-6 years untill the British came and kicked them out during WW2. After defeating Italians the Brits gave everything back to the Ethiopian monarchy but kept parts of Ogaden under their temporary control until the end of the war. After the WW2 Britain gave back Ogaden to Ethiopia in the early 1950s despite much protests from Somalis who where waiting for Somalia's independence which was scheduled for 1960 in order to unite with the Somali republic

Thanks a lot bro.

 

[Somali_patriotic]

Ogaden was taken by Menelik. In the late 1800s Menelik attacked Harar , Somalis cane ti help Hararis because they knew they were the next target of Ethiopian expansion. Unfortunately they didn't succeed and Habashis expanded all over what is now Hararghe Ethiopia (Harar area + Ogaden region). In 1935 Ethiopia was conquered by Italians who ruled it for about 5-6 years untill the British came and kicked them out during WW2. After defeating Italians the Brits gave everything back to the Ethiopian monarchy but kept parts of Ogaden under their temporary control until the end of the war. After the WW2 Britain gave back Ogaden to Ethiopia in the early 1950s despite much protests from Somalis who where waiting for Somalia's independence which was scheduled for 1960 in order to unite with the Somali republic

Ethiopia was given Handed actually
Menelik expedition only reached harar of all somali inhabited lands
Here we can clearly see that ogaden was given

The expedition itself was a british project preventing somalis from firearm and cannons so the Ethiopians could continue their expedition

After capturing harar the Ethiopian army went expending to somali lands but they lost

After losing, above it's showen that the british prevented somalis from firearms
The Ethiopians did a 2nd expedition with somalis having nothing but swords and lances and the Ethiopians with the most modern firearms and cannons
The Ethiopians still lost, documented by new york times

It was given by the british
Ethiopia was a british puppet post tewodros so they will ofc heavily help them

 

[Dal7]

Ethiopia was given Handed actually
Menelik expedition only reached harar of all somali inhabited lands
Here we can clearly see that ogaden was given
View attachment 292395
The expedition itself was a british project preventing somalis from firearm and cannons so the Ethiopians could continue their expedition
View attachment 292396
After capturing harar the Ethiopian army went expending to somali lands but they lost
View attachment 292397
After losing, above it's showen that the british prevented somalis from firearms
The Ethiopians did a 2nd expedition with somalis having nothing but swords and lances and the Ethiopians with the most modern firearms and cannons
The Ethiopians still lost, documented by new york times
View attachment 292398
It was given by the british
Ethiopia was a british puppet post tewodros so they will ofc heavily help them

This is what I was thinking but much more detailed. Also where did you find these documents?

 

[mohammdov]

Ethiopia was given Handed actually
Menelik expedition only reached harar of all somali inhabited lands
Here we can clearly see that ogaden was given
View attachment 292395
The expedition itself was a british project preventing somalis from firearm and cannons so the Ethiopians could continue their expedition
View attachment 292396
After capturing harar the Ethiopian army went expending to somali lands but they lost
View attachment 292397
After losing, above it's showen that the british prevented somalis from firearms
The Ethiopians did a 2nd expedition with somalis having nothing but swords and lances and the Ethiopians with the most modern firearms and cannons
The Ethiopians still lost, documented by new york times
View attachment 292398
It was given by the british
Ethiopia was a british puppet post tewodros so they will ofc heavily help them

I also heard that they were asking for the northern coast, but they failed to do so

 

[Som]

Ethiopia was given Handed actually
Menelik expedition only reached harar of all somali inhabited lands
Here we can clearly see that ogaden was given
View attachment 292395
The expedition itself was a british project preventing somalis from firearm and cannons so the Ethiopians could continue their expedition
View attachment 292396
After capturing harar the Ethiopian army went expending to somali lands but they lost
View attachment 292397
After losing, above it's showen that the british prevented somalis from firearms
The Ethiopians did a 2nd expedition with somalis having nothing but swords and lances and the Ethiopians with the most modern firearms and cannons
The Ethiopians still lost, documented by new york times
View attachment 292398
It was given by the british
Ethiopia was a british puppet post tewodros so they will ofc heavily help them

Not exactly. While Somali territories were probably not included officially there was an Ethiopian military presence. Ethiopians had a governor in Jigjiga in the late 1800s and Sayyid Mohamed Abdulle Hassan actually took the city and surrounding areas from the ethiopians which means that Xabashis occupied at least parts of the somali region even before the handout in the 50s.

 

[Al Adnani]

It was handed to menelik by the Brits. One day Hawd and Ogaden regions will be free under Somali-Arab rule InshaAllah

 

[Somali_patriotic]

This is what I was thinking but much more detailed. Also where did you find these documents?

My data base

 

[Somali_patriotic]

Not exactly. While Somali territories were probably not included officially there was an Ethiopian military presence. Ethiopians had a governor in Jigjiga in the late 1800s and Sayyid Mohamed Abdulle Hassan actually took the city and surrounding areas from the ethiopians which means that Xabashis occupied at least parts of the somali region even before the handout in the 50s.

Are you talking about that one man who amxaras claim he founded jigjiga? When did he rule it?
Also Muhammad abdullah hassan captured the city after the brits handed it off

 

[Diaspora ambassador]

It was handed to menelik by the Brits. One day Hawd and Ogaden regions will be free under Somali-Arab rule InshaAllah

Nah bro under somali rule exclusively.

 

[Hamzza]

The Abyssinians captured the Ogaden region by force

 

[Somali_patriotic]

The Abyssinians captured the Ogaden region by force

 

[Hamzza]

Abyssinian raiding parties have reached Balcad near Xamar and you guys are talking about Jijiga and Harar. They even occupied and ruled Luuq for months before the Italians expelled them from that town and have raided Raxanweyn region(Baydhabo) every year between 1891 to 1905 forcing them to pay tribute.

 

[Hamzza]

But most of you emotional pseudo-intellectual charlatans are not ready for this convo

 

[DJ255]

Abyssinian raiding parties have reached Balcad near Xamar and you guys are talking about Jijiga and Harar. They even occupied and ruled Luuq for months before the Italians expelled them from that town and have raided Raxanweyn region(Baydhabo) every year between 1891 to 1905 forcing them to pay tribute.

Which Abbyssininas were this?? Oromo??

 

[Hamzza]

Which Abbyssininas were this?? Oromo??

Amhara neftenya and their Oromo foot soldiers

 

[DJ255]

Amhara neftenya and their Oromo foot soldiers

All way to Xamar wtf?? There was constant skirmishes in Ogaden and Gedo even but never a full capture

 

[Hamzza]

All way to Xamar wtf?? There was constant skirmishes in Ogaden and Gedo even but never a full capture

There were no skirmishes. Somalis simply had no answer to the Abyssinian coordination and firearms and were forced to submit. Some random successful ambushes may have happened here and there but they were exceptions to the rule

 

[DJ255]

There were no skirmishes. Somalis simply had no rebuttals for the Abyssinians' coordination and firearms and were forced to submit. Some random successful ambushes may have happened here and there but they were exceptions to the rule

Which Cities and Clans exactly were forced to submit??