Trust and inclusive governance in Ethiopia with empowered local councils.
This has to be Cagjars burner.
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This has to be Cagjars burner.
Idilinaa
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Actually it was from this article that outlined what they did, you should read the whole article and all the way to the bottom.
Five years on: a region of stability in Ethiopia | Conciliation Resources
Five years ago, on 21 October 2018, the Government of Ethiopia and the Ogaden National Liberation Front (ONLF) signed the Asmara Peace Deal - an historic occasion marking the end of over 30 years of armed conflict in the Somali Regional State of Ethiopia (SRS). But a peace deal isn’t an...
A lot of what played a prevalent role in bringing peace were organizations outside the government such as "The Somali Non-State Actors Coalition" etc. and also networks and commissions giving victims and survivors of conflict a voice to redress things.
I hope we can one day do something similar to that in Somalia, create a national reconciliation like this that heals communities.
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I think one year ago I seen a twitter where it stated HSM had add Shabaab leader inside congress . Im not sure if this was true or not but its a shitty idea if its his.
Alshabaab has monoply on violence and terror, no matter how many people the bomb, no civilian in the south will speak against them because of fear. The FGS should make sure it is the bigger fish
There is no such thing as a confict having "no military solution". Wars are won and they are lost. If you are not willing to spend enough blood and treasure to win, you will lose.
The war against Alshabab can be won. The US dropped 124,000 pounds of explosives on Cal Miskaat this week and ISIS is being whittled down. In a few months Puntland will be going into Cal Madow to destroy Alshabab.
You keep killing enough of them and they will lose. You can always shoot your way out of all military problems.
The war against Alshabab can be won. The US dropped 124,000 pounds of explosives on Cal Miskaat this week and ISIS is being whittled down. In a few months Puntland will be going into Cal Madow to destroy Alshabab.
You keep killing enough of them and they will lose. You can always shoot your way out of all military problems.
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It’s really a war against an ideology that’s difficult to uproot. The problem is the sheikhs/ulema that don’t condemn al shabaab sufficiently and even somewhat share core ideology with them.
So was mahdi, he was given a state funeral at the end was he not
Of course PL has members in there and SL govt is heavily active and pays them zako and hosts them. PL deal was simple not on our land u conduct any movement and let the playground be hawiye land and its spoils shared islamically mashallah.
Plus we talk to our cilmo adeero across all idealogy, we r united on our common love for our ancestoral land regardless of idealogy of the day due to our stste having local legitimacy. We.dont care who wins Somalia but we do have members in all factions we just not on board that the theater or spoils is PL.
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Trust and inclusive government would imply fair elections and a healthy relationship with opposition. Which is simply untrue.Actually it was from this article that outlined what they did, you should read the whole article and all the way to the bottom.
Five years on: a region of stability in Ethiopia | Conciliation Resources
Five years ago, on 21 October 2018, the Government of Ethiopia and the Ogaden National Liberation Front (ONLF) signed the Asmara Peace Deal - an historic occasion marking the end of over 30 years of armed conflict in the Somali Regional State of Ethiopia (SRS). But a peace deal isn’t an...www.c-r.org
A lot of what played a prevalent role in bringing peace were organizations outside the government such as "The Somali Non-State Actors Coalition" etc. and also networks and commissions giving victims and survivors of conflict a voice to redress things.
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I hope we can one day do something similar to that in Somalia, create a national reconciliation like this that heals communities.
Ethiopia routinely has periods like this where tension builds up but there isnt active conflict. It wasn’t because of ‘reconciliation’ that the WSLF ceased operations in the 80s and it wasnt reconciliation that ceased operations from 1964-1976.
In this current time it was simply easier for Cagjar and company to go back on the terms agreed then it was for the ONLF. Trying to fight insurgency from forming in Ethiopia is like trying to fight gravity.
EDIT: I mistook this for a seperate article by Juweria Ali. I read the article in full and im even more convinced you are Cagjars burner.Actually it was from this article that outlined what they did, you should read the whole article and all the way to the bottom.
Five years on: a region of stability in Ethiopia | Conciliation Resources
Five years ago, on 21 October 2018, the Government of Ethiopia and the Ogaden National Liberation Front (ONLF) signed the Asmara Peace Deal - an historic occasion marking the end of over 30 years of armed conflict in the Somali Regional State of Ethiopia (SRS). But a peace deal isn’t an...
A lot of what played a prevalent role in bringing peace were organizations outside the government such as "The Somali Non-State Actors Coalition" etc. and also networks and commissions giving victims and survivors of conflict a voice to redress things.
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I hope we can one day do something similar to that in Somalia, create a national reconciliation like this that heals communities.
For clarification the article is surrounding Fowsia Abdulkadir Qaasim. She is Jifo mates with Cagjar but even worse she is immediate family to Cagjars right hand man Xuseen Qaasim.
I might as well take Jihaan Xasan Sheekhs tweets as proof that HSM is saving Somalia.
Well JL is smiting itself always playing in murky territories because Madoobe is way to trigger happy with his political hand(wa fudeed badan yahay hadu Dano dhow AMA short term interest arko at the expense of Ogaden long term NFD, DDS interest).
Since 2013 till now nigga has been dealing with a war with Mogadishu interference in Gedo and even inside Kismayo with Ogaden sub clans trying to create an Aideed n Ali mahdi 4 month war scenario there or using a sade horgal rebellion. The agenda has been set since 2000 carta conference to smack the dust of the samaale union and this means they need to break JL, swallow it up, march to galkacyo with GM n HS squads, swallow up PL, tell snm u clean up your self declared house and create Samaale federation of north n south in a twin capital model(mog n hargeisa si darod looga yeersiyo inta kale ma roti ba). It's an alliance based on clan hate only.
This is all handed to hamar by IOG in Djibouti when he summons the irir loyalists for their yearly samaale summit there and his only doing it due to fear of Djibouti folks uprising if Somalia is faring better then his enclave, the other reason is he doesn't want Djibouti to lose geopolitical relevancy to a stronger Somalia in the peninsula. So his motives are blatant he don't want Somalia doing well he assumes he may lose Djibouti relevancy or even his office to local rebels jealous of prosperous Somalia.
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The use of the military and his treatment of opposition is where I have qualms with Madoobe.
Everything else to do with Puntland, Xamse, Charcoal, Kenya, AS, FGS, Ethiopia etc is garbage to me and is essentially all built on misinformation.
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Even though the WSLF ceased operations in the 1980s, the ONLF didn’t , they continued pressing the issue of Somali self-determination through both armed and political means.
Cagjar didn’t singlehandedly create the current political atmosphere. It was the ONLF that pushed for a political solution and then registered as a major party within the Ethiopian political system, marking a strategic shift toward peaceful engagement
Today, the Somali region has a far more inclusive local government than ever before and that’s a direct result of ONLF’s decision to pursue reform through peaceful negotiation rather than conflict
Sure, there are valid critiques to be made but this is still a meaningful step forward. It shows that political reconciliation, when it’s locally driven, can shift the dynamics even in a place as historically volatile as Ethiopia’s Somali region.
That’s the only thing you took away from the article? Not the fact that, in addition to the SRC, they also helped establish the Somali Region Victims Network, the Council of Peace and Unity (CPU), the Somali Non-State Actors Coalition, and the Women’s Dialogue Space (Ugaaso) , all grassroots organizations focused on peacebuilding and reconciliation?
For the record, I don’t know anything about Dr. Fowsia personally , and frankly, who she’s related to is irrelevant.
Instead of politicizing someone’s identity or dismissing their contributions based on clan affiliations, maybe focus on the outcomes of their work. That’s what matters, and that’s what I’m interested in , learning from what’s worked on the ground and drawing lessons from it.
This kind of approach—outlasting the enemy in a drawn-out conflict—only works when a society has deep internal cohesion and a stronger shared sense of purpose than its adversary. In wars of attrition, the side that can endure the most suffering without breaking tends to win.
A prime example is the Vietnam War: as U.S. casualties mounted, public support collapsed, despite the fact that South Vietnamese forces, who were suffering far heavier losses, continued to plead for U.S. support against the Viet Cong(who suufered even more). This applies to Somalia. Al-Shabaab, driven by religious zeal and ideological unity, has a greater sense of collective purpose than the Federal Government of Somalia (FGS), which relies on a fragile and often weakening form of Somali nationalism.
FGS’s path to victory is not through military might—nor has it ever been. Its strategy should focus on exploiting the two key weaknesses that prevent Al-Shabaab from gaining full control:
- Disregard for local identities: Al-Shabaab often installs commanders and soldiers from outside the local area, creating friction and alienation.
- Selective grievance exploitation: They side with certain groups over others, worsening divisions.
FGS must ensure that regional leaders do not manipulate local issues for political gain. Instead, it should prioritize tangible development in the regions it controls. Economic progress—visible “shiny projects”— tend to create a sense of exclusion among Al-Shabaab’s support base. In turn, Al-Shabaab is forced to resort to more repression to maintain authority, which breeds further resentment.
As long as the FGS avoids overreaching militarily and focuses on achievable goals—like establishing functional, decentralized regional administrations and acting as a neutral conflict arbitrator where traditional systems break down—it can steadily undermine Al-Shabaab’s legitimacy and avoid defeat.
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By definition there's no military solution if you have no military. Somalia's problems are beyond any general wisdom. The looters must be removed from Mogadishu if Somaglia is ever to recover.
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The ONLF was created in the mid 80s and largely operated in the capacity they currently do until 91’. They werent even based in SR let alone in war.
The WSLF was forced to cease operations because they were attacked by rebels on behalf of Mengistu within Somalia. MSB also restricted the WSLF because he was afraid of Mengistu. This was all in the midst of massive operations from the ENDF.
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Of course Cagjar didn’t he was a nobody. Ethiopia loves annointing people who owe their handlers a career.
The Ethiopians struck a deal with the ONLF in which they would essentially return to power in exchange for a ceasefire/peace deal. The Ethiopians had no intention of ever keeping that and the ONLF took the offer because Eritrea(key base) was looking to make peace with the Ethiopians and the ONLF was already a shell of what it was militarily since Ileys violent purge.
Axmed Yasiin was supported by Cagjar years back to form a parallel ONLF to give the veneer of the inclusivity your talking about. You are just sharing cheap propaganda.
The most inclusive government formed was SRs first government whilst the TPLF was still weak, it was a coalition of the regions liberation fronts/parties and they shortly after announced a referendum which is what initiated the recent conflict.
The TPLF literally did that same parallel ONLF play and attempted to install a non-Ogaden as president of SR who they quickly scrapped because he was useless. Nothing new, Cagjar even gave his son a minister position as a gesture.
Its clear you are missing the most basic prerequisite knowledge on even relevant actors. Her clan could be irrelevant, being blood relatives is absolutely a conflict of interest the author even citing her reflects alot.
These organizations mostly exist as pretext in hunting Ileys cronies(as they should). Unlike Somalia there wasnt total inter-clan warfare so who exactly was the reconciliation with if not the ONLF??
Idilinaa
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I’m well aware of the WSLF’s history , and even the text you just shared in the spoiler confirms that the ONLF was essentially a splinter group that picked up the mantle.
The transition between the two wasn’t a break in momentum, but rather an evolution of the same nationalist movement under new leadership and structure. ONLF may not have launched a full armed campaign right away, but it carried forward the same political objectives from the mid-to-late ’80s and eventually escalated after 1991.
So trying to disconnect the ONLF from the broader liberation trajectory is historically inaccurate.
It genuinely pisses me off reading about how groups like the SDDF and SNM actively collaborated with Ethiopia to undermine both Somalia and the struggle in the Ogaden.
I have to say, Siad Barre’s decision to tell the WSLF to stand down for the time being, was pragmatism. He understood the cost of prolonged conflict and wanted to de-escalate to prevent further suffering and economic collapse. That was leadership under impossible pressure.
I’m well aware of that , which is why ONLF themselves have begun to speak out against the current administration for failing to honor the full terms of the agreement.
That said, it still marks an improvement from the past, especially considering that for decades the Somali Region had no self-rule at all and was governed through militarization rather than civilian authority.
The current situation, while far from perfect, at least offers a level of regional autonomy, civil governance, and developmental momentum that didn't exist before. That stability matters.
Personally, I take a longer-term view than ONLF. I believe the Somali Region should pursue a strategic economic and political path , one focused on integration with other Somali territories and fostering a grassroots civic campaign aimed at reform, inclusivity, and stronger local administration.
Military action or armed confrontation risks unraveling the fragile stability and would invite further foreign militarization under the guise of security.
The smarter route is to consolidate gains, build a legal and political case, and gradually shift the balance through civic strength and institutional development.
Can you provide a credible source for this claim? Because from what I can see, parties like the Democratic Unity Party (Hawiye), the Ethiopian Somali Democratic Movement (Isaaq), the Democratic Action League (Issa), and Reer Barre factions do not suggest broad based inclusion.
If anything, most of those appear to be similar to the clan-based factions or foreign-backed rebel proxies that were formed inside Somalia during the Cold War era , not grassroots movements reflecting the will of communities or districts across the Somali Region.
With the exception of ONLF and WSLF, which had clear mass support and political agendas rooted in Somali self-determination, the rest look like fragmented interest groups rather than an inclusive government.
This period you displayed in that text is covered in the FB post i shared as well.
For me, the focus is on what has actually worked in the Somali Region to foster peace, reconciliation, and institutional progress , not on speculating about the clan background or relatives of individuals I frankly know little about.
That kind of fixation distracts from what matters: whether the initiatives being implemented are helping stabilize the region and build trust among communities. That’s the only standard that really counts.
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It’s cause she routinely uses ai for everything she posts. That’s why it feels so unnatural and confusing to so many people. It doesn’t come from real critical thought or understanding. Also explains the walls of text she posts all day.
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