Ethiopia is about to disintegrate thread 5687729297297478
Waryaa I'm NourUgaas the Gadabuursi. Your Dir cousin
Very interesting.
My advise to the Somalis, who want to declare independence, is this. Please wait until Tigray declares it first. TPLF encouraged Abdi Iley to declare independence and see where he is now. Don't be fooled with TPLF tricks. It only uses this kind of narrative to get more influence in the federal government. It is never meant seriously. If you think Tigray will be declaring independence soon then be ready for a rude awakening. Tigreans are not fools and they will never ever declare independence or use article 39. You don't know their mentality and culture that is why you believe this kind of crap.
First of all, the ordinary people of Tigray are very nationalist Ethiopians and any kind of secession attempt will creating huge conflict in Tigray. Second, TPLF knows well that the rest of Ethiopians are so eager to let Tigray go since Tigray doesn't contribute shit but gets more from the federal budget. TPLF knows that their application for secession will be accepted in light speed and they will be alone without any resources facing both Ethiopian and Eritrea as enemies. The one thing you can count about TPLF is that they are not foos or emotional that they will cross this red line and commit suicide. The max. they do is sending fools like Abdi Iley from other regions and try to pressure the fed. gov. and there ends their adventure.
That is the reason majority of Ethiopians are not even bothered about "Tigray becoming independence" because they know Tigreans will not commit this suicidal move. This is not an issue not even in 20 years let alone now. Again Tigreans are anything but fools.
Let ethiopia break up then we'll make a dir kingdom: Djibouti, shinile and awdal.
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Ethiopia is about to disintegrate thread 5687729297297478
Yeah yeah and then we'll take back the Ogaden and kill a load of Ethiopians your all going to be hanging like Michael Kors bags soon. Get ready. Because we're on our way you filthy Ethiopians.So? Ethiopia is not your personal handbag from Michael Kors, it’s a dam country. I hope they pass a bill which revokes citizenship from those of a mixed background. Only pure bloods should be given status in their respective regional states
Yeah yeah and then we'll take back the Ogaden and kill a load of Ethiopians your all going to be hanging like Michael Kors bags soon. Get ready. Because we're on our way you filthy Ethiopians. View attachment 52759
Well it's never too late to kill a chunk. If we can kick the US with a bunch of 15 year old malnutritioned jamaacs we can do it against the indo yarees watch it cuz.Na China will make the ogaden a giant sweatshop republic
Very interesting.
I am curious do Ethiopian more closely identify with their regional identity than their national identity or is it the other way around?
Elites forever trying to maintain the status quo, but nothing lasts forever.I would say Ethiopia is very diverse. There are millions who identify with their national identity before their region, especially in cities like Addis Ababa but there are also millions that identify with their region first then Ethiopian. The landscape of the political parties also reflects this reality. We have some 60 registered parties out of which about 20 are national parties and the rest are regional parties. That is also understandable for a country with 80 ethnic groups.
But currently there is a consensus among the elites and the people that there will never be a peaceful disintegration but a civil war so the disintegration is not even seen as an option because if we go that path there will not be independent states but pure civil war a la Somalia, Yemen, Syria. On this reality, it looks like the majority of Ethiopians agree. That is the reason no serious political force within or outside of the country is currently pushing for secession. So the only option left for us is a true democratic Ethiopia. There is also an overwhelming agreement on this only and single option for all. No more fake elections, no more inequalities, no more human rights abuses etc. Full democracy is a must for us to survive as a nation.
If only our borders were clearly demarcated and we could be easily become independent countries, then that could be seen as an option but that is not the case. In reality every secession from Ethiopia will be followed by border wars and other conflicts. Currently the majority of Ethiopias are aware of this reality and are not pushing for this kind of stupidity.
I would say Ethiopia is very diverse. There are millions who identify with their national identity before their region, especially in cities like Addis Ababa but there are also millions that identify with their region first then Ethiopian. The landscape of the political parties also reflects this reality. We have some 60 registered parties out of which about 20 are national parties and the rest are regional parties. That is also understandable for a country with 80 ethnic groups.
But currently there is a consensus among the elites and the people that there will never be a peaceful disintegration but a civil war so the disintegration is not even seen as an option because if we go that path there will not be independent states but pure civil war a la Somalia, Yemen, Syria. On this reality, it looks like the majority of Ethiopians agree. That is the reason no serious political force within or outside of the country is currently pushing for secession. So the only option left for us is a true democratic Ethiopia. There is also an overwhelming agreement on this only and single option for all. No more fake elections, no more inequalities, no more human rights abuses etc. Full democracy is a must for us to survive as a nation.
If only our borders were clearly demarcated and we could be easily become independent countries, then that could be seen as an option but that is not the case. In reality every secession from Ethiopia will be followed by border wars and other conflicts. Currently the majority of Ethiopias are aware of this reality and are not pushing for this kind of stupidity.
Something to think about.
I guess you're partly forced into this multi-ethnic society but if you had the option to peacefully disintegrate on ethnic basis then would you say that is the ideal?
My advise to the Somalis, who want to declare independence, is this. Please wait until Tigray declares it first. TPLF encouraged Abdi Iley to declare independence and see where he is now. Don't be fooled with TPLF tricks. It only uses this kind of narrative to get more influence in the federal government. It is never meant seriously. If you think Tigray will be declaring independence soon then be ready for a rude awakening. Tigreans are not fools and they will never ever declare independence or use article 39. You don't know their mentality and culture that is why you believe this kind of crap.
First of all, the ordinary people of Tigray are very nationalist Ethiopians and any kind of secession attempt will creating huge conflict in Tigray. Second, TPLF knows well that the rest of Ethiopians are so eager to let Tigray go since Tigray doesn't contribute shit but gets more from the federal budget. TPLF knows that their application for secession will be accepted in light speed and they will be alone without any resources facing both Ethiopian and Eritrea as enemies. The one thing you can count about TPLF is that they are not foos or emotional that they will cross this red line and commit suicide. The max. they do is sending fools like Abdi Iley from other regions and try to pressure the fed. gov. and there ends their adventure.
That is the reason majority of Ethiopians are not even bothered about "Tigray becoming independence" because they know Tigreans will not commit this suicidal move. This is not an issue not even in 20 years let alone now. Again Tigreans are anything but fools.
I heard the Tigray region wants to exit from Ethiopia and unite with Eritrea since they are both Tigrayans after all.