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Cigaal

يا نبي سلام عليك
I didn't know that there was good bidah. I thought all bidah was automatically bad. It must be something I picked up online from salafi propaganda.
I also recommend to read this as it goes to much detail.
http://seekershub.org/ans-blog/2009/05/28/the-concept-and-classification-of-bida-in-islam/

Classification of Bid’a

The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Beware of matters newly begun, for every matter newly begun is innovation and every innovation is misguidance.” (recorded by Imam Ahmad in his Musnad 4/126-127, Imam Abu Dawud, Imam Tirmidhi & Imam Ibn Majah in their respective Sunan collections with an authentic chain of narrators).

Due to the above Hadith, scholars say that from a perspective of the Shariah definition of Bid’a, every type of Bid’a is reprehensible and sinful. When an act is determined to fall into the abovementioned Shariah definition of Bid’a, then it can never be termed as good or lawful. All innovations are reprehensible and misguidance, thus unlawful.

Imam Malik (Allah be pleased with him) said:

“Whosoever innovates an innovation believing it to be good (hasana) has indeed claimed that the Prophet (Allah bless him & give him peace) breached the trust of Prophethood, because Allah Almighty says: “This day I have perfected your religion for you”. Anything that was not part of religion on that day, can not be a part of religion today.” (al-I’tisam, 1/48).

However, Bid’a can be divided into various categories when considering the linguistic definition. As mentioned earlier, linguistically, Bid’a means to introduce something, thus any thing that is introduced will (from a linguistic point of view) be termed as Bid’a.

These innovations may be obligatory, recommended and unlawful. When scholars categorize innovations, this is the aspect they are referring to.

Therefore, innovations such as the study of the disciplines of Arabic that are necessary to understand the Qur’an and sunnah (grammar, syntax, etc), Hadith classification to distinguish between genuine and spurious prophetic traditions, modern technology like electricity, car, plain, light, building of Islamic schools, etc… despite being considered a Bid’a linguistically, will not be considered a Bid’a with regards to the Shariah definition, thus they are lawful.

Imam al-Lakhnawi explains this by quoting from al-Tariqa al-Muhammadiyya of Imam al-Barkawi:

“If it is said that how can we reconcile between the Messenger of Allah’s statement “Every innovation is misguidance” and the Fuqaha’s classification of Bid’a into the lawful, recommended and the obligatory?

We will say: Bid’a has a linguistic meaning that is general, which is to introduce, regardless of whether it is considered worship or is related to personal habits. It (Bid’a) also has a Shariah definition that is more specific, which is to add or remove in religion in a way that it was not done in the time of the Prophet (Allah bless him & give him peace) and his Companions, verbally, practically, explicitly or implicitly. Therefore, (the Shar’i Bid’a) does not include habits (worldly matters), rather it is restricted to certain beliefs and practices” (Iqamat al-Hujjah, P. 21-22).

Therefore, the classification of Bid’a in various categories is from a linguistic point of view that does not include the Shar’i definition of Bid’a. It is from this, Sayyiduna Umar al-Khattab (Allah be pleased with him) said regarding the performance of Tarawih prayer in congregation “This is a good innovation.”

Also, practices that do not fall into the Shariah definition of Bid’a such as building of religious schools will still be considered a Bid’a linguistically, but not all linguistic innovations are reprehensible.

Finally, it should also be remembered that practices carried out in the time of the rightly guided Khalifas, other Companions and their followers (Allah be plesed with all) can not be considered a Bid’a. The great Hanafi jurist and Hadith scholar, Imam Abd al-Hay al-Lakhnawi dedicated a whole chapter in support of this in his famous treatise titled ‘Iqamat al-hujjah ala an al-ikthar fi al-ta’abbud laysa bid’a’.

He states:

“Practices that were carried out with the approval of the Companions (Allah be pleased with them all) but were not done in the time of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace), such as the introducing of the first Adhan for Jumu’ah prayer, twenty Rak’ats of Tarawih prayer, etc…can not be considered a Shar’i Bid’a.

There are many evidences for this, just to mention a few:

1) The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Hold fast on to my ways and the ways of the rightly guided Caliphs.” (Abu Dawud, Ahmad, Tirmidhi and others with an authentic chain of narrators).

2) The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “follow in the footsteps of the two after me, Abu Bakr and Umar.” (Ahmad, Tirmidhi and Ibn Majah with a sound chain of narrators).
 

Cigaal

يا نبي سلام عليك
I don't get my views from websites
Apologies brother I was a little rude. To make things clear I don’t mind people who hold the opinion that it’s not permissible to comemorate mawlid but I just think that since scholars have differed upon its permissibility that we should respect this difference. Evidently most major shafi scholars have considered permissible so we should respect their ruling and judgement.
 

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Salafis also acknowledge there is good and bad bid’ah but bid’ah is bid’ah and to assume doing something not in islam will make you closer to Allah or rewarded or liked by Allah is bid’ah whether you view it as good or not. It's innovation for example if I say it's good to kiss a guest with 4 kisses on cheek is better than 3 or 5 kisses this is good and welcoming but if it's not in hadith or quran don't think it's from islam. My example is stupid but hopefully you understood me.
It's not from islam
lol @ an 18 year old teenager born in the degenerate west refuting great scholars like imam shafi'i born in the salaf.
 
lol @ an 18 year old teenager born in the degenerate west refuting great scholars like imam shafi'i born in the salaf.

Where has Imaam Shaafici deemed mawlid permissible? Mawlid was yet to be invented as it is today during his time.

I respect @Cigaal for his honesty despite disagreeing with his opinion.
 

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Where has Imaam Shaafici deemed mawlid permissible? Mawlid was yet to be invented as it is today during his time.

I respect @Cigaal for his honesty despite disagreeing with his opinion.
I did not say that Imam Shafi'i deemed mawlid as permissible, or impermissible. Her post wasn't even talking about mawlid, she was trying to refute the concept of bidah hasanah.
 

Blade1

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lol @ an 18 year old teenager born in the degenerate west refuting great scholars like imam shafi'i born in the salaf.
Atleast write what you disagree with my post so that we can both benefit. How did I refute imam Shafi’i I never claimed to.
 
Where has Imaam Shaafici deemed mawlid permissible? Mawlid was yet to be invented as it is today during his time.

I respect @Cigaal for his honesty despite disagreeing with his opinion.

Ashaafi'i divided bidah into 5 categories, only one of which is sinful. The jurists in his school deemed mawlid a good innovation based on Shafii foundational principals of what bidah is. Mawlid just like any other act has to meet certain parameters so it doesn't fall into the blameworthy category
 
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