Today is the Nabi Muhammad csw birthday

[TekNiKo]

Ina adeer, don't let these najdi trash ruin your thread. Tassawuf has always been our way for centuries and is our heritage.

Alot of wahabi folks brainwashed by Saudi petrodollars

 

[Abdalla]

Yaa khayral anaami yaa khayral anaami, calayka bi salaami

 

[Crow]

This is the Shafi’i jurist opinions on mawlid I assume most of you are Sunni of the Shafi’i school since most of you are of Somali backgrounds

http://islamqa.org/shafii/shafiifiqh/30192

Very interesting that those Shafi scholars admit that it is an innovation yet are all in agreement of its permissiblity and actually recommend it.

Thank you for this link. As a Shafi, I was initially against this holiday out of ignorance. While I find their admission to innovation concerning, who am I to argue against a consensus by scholars who know so much more than me?

 

[Shaolin23]

Did not grow up with Sufism. My family generally aren't into sufism except my Bardera fam. Not really into it tbh.

What are you talking about man I don’t even consider myself a Sufi I’m not part of a tariqa I am a Sunni and a Shafi’i learn to separate the two I know Wahhabis have made it hard but there are differences

 

[Blade1]

Are some of you man so desperate to party
What more proof do we you need when the prophet didn't do neither than sahabas.

“Do not exaggerate about me as the Christians exaggerated about the son of Maryam. I am only a slave, so say, ‘The slave of Allaah and His Messenger.’”

(Reported by al-Bukhaari).

The celebration of the Prophet’s birthday appeared many centuries later, when many of the features of true religion had vanished and bid’ah had become widespread.

Thus this celebration became a sign of one’s love for the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? But can it be possible that the Sahaabah, the imaams and the people of the best three centuries were unaware of it, and it was only those who came later who were aware of its importance?! What the Qur’aan tells us is that love of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is demonstrated by following the guidance he brought. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Say (O Muhammad): ‘If you (really) love Allaah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allaah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

The first aayah explains that love is just a claim, but the proof of sincerity is following what the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) brought.

Allahu a'lam.

 

[Mercury]

I dont Think theres any need to celebrate it when the prophet scw never celebrated birthdays

 

[Pla]

Most of true islamic history is currently being destroyed by saudi arabia, what you heard is mostly fabricated lies by the saudis

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

@AussieHustler dont disrespect my prophet.

A grown ass man acting like a rebelled teenager. You left Islam, now leave Islam alone!

 

[nine]

What are you talking about man I don’t even consider myself a Sufi I’m not part of a tariqa I am a Sunni and a Shafi’i learn to separate the two I know Wahhabis have made it hard but there are differences

Cool sxb. I thought birthday of Nabiga SCW was mainly celebrated by crazy sufis lol.

 

[Cigaal]

Very interesting that those Shafi scholars admit that it is an innovation yet are all in agreement of its permissiblity and actually recommend it.

Thank you for this link. As a Shafi, I was initially against this holiday out of ignorance. While I find their admission to innovation concerning, who am I to argue against a consensus by scholars who know so much more than me?

What exactly do you find concerning about it concerning? Scholars classify bid’ah into different categories. We have bidah hasanah which is good bidah. An example of that would be the madhabs themselves since they weren’t present during the time of the prophet or the diacritics used in the Quran. Imam shafi’i defined bidah as having bidah hasanah. This is just a difference of opinion between the 4 madhabs. Most shafi scholars like imam suyuti, ibn hajar al haytami, Abu shamah (imam nawawis sheikh) all considered a good bidah and permissible) while lots of maliki scholars didn’t agree with it.

Point is there is a difference of opinion (just like other issues) but for some reason people only make a big fuss about Mawlid

 

[Cigaal]

No. Celebrating birthdays is a gaal tradition.

So the great scholars of Islam like imam suyuti and ibn hajar al haytami we’re following a gaal tradition?

 

[Cigaal]

Cool sxb. I thought birthday of Nabiga SCW was mainly celebrated by crazy sufis lol.

It’s the official holiday of all Muslim countries except Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

 

[Cigaal]

Shaolin

Islamq is owned by a salafi dude and has a close relationship with the ministry of religious affairs in Saudi Arabia.

Islamqa.com is salafi but islamqa.org has the opinion of the shafis, hanafis and malikis. But I understand where the confusion stemmed from

 

[Cigaal]

Mawlid isn’t from Islam

You can disagree but lots of scholars consider it permissible and the ikhtilaaf should be respected

 

[Cigaal]

Agreed walaalkis. Notice how most of the people in this thread pushing this Najdi propaganda are all from the UK. I didn't realize just how strong the petrodollar's influence is over there.

It’s because most mosques here are salafis. Most Muslims in the uk don’t even know that the lectures and books they are getting are from salafis. It’s actually a very smart tactic from the salafis to not disclose their work is salafi opinion but of all Muslims

 

[Cigaal]

@Shaolin23 Great video for you to watch I recommend by Shaykh Hamza Yusuf on this.

And I also recommend this great lecture by mufti abdurrahman

 

[Cigaal]

Are some of you man so desperate to party
What more proof do we you need when the prophet didn't do neither than sahabas.

“Do not exaggerate about me as the Christians exaggerated about the son of Maryam. I am only a slave, so say, ‘The slave of Allaah and His Messenger.’”

(Reported by al-Bukhaari).

The celebration of the Prophet’s birthday appeared many centuries later, when many of the features of true religion had vanished and bid’ah had become widespread.

Thus this celebration became a sign of one’s love for the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? But can it be possible that the Sahaabah, the imaams and the people of the best three centuries were unaware of it, and it was only those who came later who were aware of its importance?! What the Qur’aan tells us is that love of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is demonstrated by following the guidance he brought. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Say (O Muhammad): ‘If you (really) love Allaah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allaah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

The first aayah explains that love is just a claim, but the proof of sincerity is following what the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) brought.

Allahu a'lam.

Have you ever looked at the opponents argument or do you only take knowledge from a select few of wahhabi websites like Islam QA.com?

 

[Crow]

What exactly do you find concerning about it concerning? Scholars classify bid’ah into different categories. We have bidah hasanah which is good bidah. An example of that would be the madhabs themselves since they weren’t present during the time of the prophet or the diacritics used in the Quran. Imam shafi’i defined bidah as having bidah hasanah. This is just a difference of opinion between the 4 madhabs. Most shafi scholars like imam suyuti, ibn hajar al haytami, Abu shamah (imam nawawis sheikh) all considered a good bidah and permissible) while lots of maliki scholars didn’t agree with it.

Point is there is a difference of opinion (just like other issues) but for some reason people only make a big fuss about Mawlid

I didn't know that there was good bidah. I thought all bidah was automatically bad. It must be something I picked up online from salafi propaganda.

 

[Blade1]

Have you ever looked at the opponents argument or do you only take knowledge from a select few of wahhabi websites like Islam QA.com?

I don't get my views from websites

 

[Blade1]

I didn't know that there was good bidah. I thought all bidah was automatically bad. It must be something I picked up online from salafi propaganda.

Salafis also acknowledge there is good and bad bid’ah but bid’ah is bid’ah and to assume doing something not in islam will make you closer to Allah or rewarded or liked by Allah is bid’ah whether you view it as good or not. It's innovation for example if I say it's good to kiss a guest with 4 kisses on cheek is better than 3 or 5 kisses this is good and welcoming but if it's not in hadith or quran don't think it's from islam. My example is stupid but hopefully you understood me.
It's not from islam