IMPORTANT THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL! SL annihilated didn’t succeed diplomatically in 2018. Almost over!

[Crow]

Waxan you act as if SL is part of Somalia other hthan symbolically.

You argue as if we are politically and economically intertwined. Dude listen we don't want any special treatment only that we get left the f*ck alone.

Kulahaa special treatment.. Wallahi we would benefit more from becoming a Ethiopian state than joining Somalia.

Quoting for posterity.

 

[Lordilord]

Quoting for posterity.

Sorry for the brutal honesty bro another fact just to soften your heartbreak.

If Somaliland was under Somalia we would have had better infrastructure, somewhat better economy, would have been the nr1 state in Somalia etc.

This isn't about all of that tho, if we want to rejoin Somalia now it defeats the whole purpose.

We might as well just join Ethiopia SL would change more drastically under Ethiopia compared to Somalia.

This is just to say why would we ever rejoin it makes no sense atm. If Somalia gets it shit together and becomes a stable country then you can talk otherwise see you in a couple of hundred years.

 

[Guts]

Sorry for the brutal honesty bro another fact just to soften your heartbreak.

If Somaliland was under Somalia we would have had better infrastructure, somewhat better economy, would have been the nr1 state in Somalia etc.

This isn't about all of that tho, if we want to rejoin Somalia now it defeats the whole purpose.

We might as well just join Ethiopia SL would change more drastically under Ethiopia compared to Somalia.

This is just to say why would we ever rejoin it makes no sense atm. If Somalia gets it shit together and becomes a stable country then you can talk otherwise see you in a couple of hundred years.

Wouldn't that mean that being apart of somalia is better for somaliland? I feel like you guys are looking for citiraf just to prove us wrong not for the people.

 

[Mercury]

Recognition won’t ever be an option as long as these leaders are corrupt and incompetent and the fact that the UN has one rule which is that they don’t endorse the separation of members states

The leaders should be up front with the situation and focus their time on developing the country even though we don’t get as much aid money as Xamar we got enough money for development purposes but the reality is that the leaders don’t have vision nor any goals everybody even the people are lying to themselves

This is how the streets look like And people are happy with that and even are so delusional to say we are better than Somalia cause we have peace and stability none of those things matter if the country looks like a shithole and the leaders aren’t held accountable due to qabiil

 

[Guts]

Recognition won’t ever be an option as long as these leaders are corrupt and incompetent and the fact that the UN has one rule which is that they don’t endorse the separation of members states

The leaders should be up front with the situation and focus their time on developing the country even though we don’t get as much aid money as Xamar we got enough money for development purposes but the reality is that the leaders don’t have vision nor any goals everybody even the people are lying to themselves

This is how the streets look like And people are happy with that and even are so delusional to say we are better than Somalia cause we have peace and stability none of those things matter if the country looks like a shithole and the leaders aren’t held accountable due to qabiil

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There are litterally big lakes of trash in Hargeisa (i have eye witness)

 

[Crow]

Sorry for the brutal honesty bro another fact just to soften your heartbreak.

If Somaliland was under Somalia we would have had better infrastructure, somewhat better economy, would have been the nr1 state in Somalia etc.

This isn't about all of that tho, if we want to rejoin Somalia now it defeats the whole purpose.

We might as well just join Ethiopia SL would change more drastically under Ethiopia compared to Somalia.

This is just to say why would we ever rejoin it makes no sense atm. If Somalia gets it shit together and becomes a stable country then you can talk otherwise see you in a couple of hundred years.

Nonsense. The corruption in Somaliland is as bad as Xamar. Even if you stopped seeking ictiraaf, you would not be able to surpass Puntland.

 

[Mercury]

There are litterally big lakes of trash in Hargeisa (i have eye witness)

Exactly sadly there’s not a place to dispose it cause government is incompetent

 

[Guts]

Exactly sadly there’s not a place to dispose it cause government is incompetent

Well i guess their 27 years of peace have gotten them very far..

 

[Mercury]

Well i guess their 27 years of peace have gotten them very far..

27 years of peace don’t mean much at all when the country is run by people who got their seat due to their clan

 

[Mercury]

People are usually chosen by their education do they possess the right skills for the work at hand but in Somaliland it’s all about your clan even in the work force people have been turned down jobs all solely on their clan

Im Isaaq myself and personally I think clans is the reason we haven’t come far we could achieve much much more in 30 years we would have people who are well equipped for the political positions, we would have accountability, structure and everybody would be an individual and would be dealt with as such

But unfortunately clan mindset is so deep rooted in Somaliland where people will defend or even hide a murderer cause they share the same qabiil ir even worse politicians can be not found guilty of corruption cause they’re clansmen will be the one to defend their actions

I think as long as things are like this recognition won’t come and it surely isn’t the solution to Sonalilands issues even if we did get recognition whose to say the leaders won’t benefit from it more than the people

 

[Lordilord]

Nonsense. The corruption in Somaliland is as bad as Xamar. Even if you stopped seeking ictiraaf, you would not be able to surpass Puntland.

Nonsense. The corruption in Somaliland is as bad as Xamar. Even if you stopped seeking ictiraaf, you would not be able to surpass Puntland.

What makes you think we wouldn't, for many years we have been isolated because of the fact that we are separatists. If we were under Somalia the isolation would not be an issue.

We would have accesss to so much more through Mogadishu.

You do realize we would have more access to aid, entering into more deals than we have today.

Look at Somaliland unrecognized and we Puntland are trying their best to keep up lol.

As a recognized federal state of Somalia, Somaliland hands down would be so far ahead of Puntland yall would be crying.

 

[Lordilord]

Somaliland reuniting with Somalia is Puntland' biggest nightmare

 

[nine]

Somaliland reuniting with Somalia is Puntland' biggest nightmare

Garowe and Hargeysa have more in common in terms of foreign policy than they do with Xamar if Hargeysa stopped gunning for tribal territory that isn't theirs things would be different

 

[Silky]

Somaliland reuniting with Somalia is Puntland' biggest nightmare

Because they would have to give up claims to SSC, and any influence PL has in xamar or over the other FMS while tentative at best right now, would be weakened by any influence SL wielded in Somalia due to Somalis being predisposed to majeerteenitis, and unfortunately for PLers there's not enough of @Abdalla about to cure the masses

 

[Lordilord]

Because they would have to give up claims to SSC, and any influence PL has in xamar or over the other FMS while tentative at best right now, would be weakened by any influence SL wielded in Somalia due to Somalis being predisposed to majeerteenitis, and unfortunately for PLers there's not enough of @Abdalla about to cure the masses

Nailed it, they should be careful what they wish for..