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Somalia’s Galmudug rejects deployment of AMISOM troops in region
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They starting to marry our women... yup its becoming more and more normalized albeit most families will outcast the girl to oblivion. They usually target minorities (madhibaan) at first but they just starting to get into their foot on the hawiye yar yars and even subsection of abgaal.xamar, and the shabeelese are the worst. the further north you go the better.
i predict pure somalis will only be found in the north in 50 years time.
do they mix with the locals?
all it takes is intermarriage to become normal.
I would prefer them to marry within the community but would let them marry any practicing sunni Muslim. The problem is usually that if u allow a Madow/cadaan marry within u, you’ll be shunned by the community. Most parents care about what others think ygm
Loool not true sxb. No hawiyes marry Madows. They are still bullied by all somalis even in middle shabelle where they make up the majority
Some raxanweyn subclans have admixture with Bantu and arab. U will see two raxanweyn guys one looks Madow one looks arabBoth raxanweyn lol
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it is over marka.
big populations can handle intermixing, but not laangaab somalis like us.
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i dont care about the community.
my dna test said I am 99.7% somali.
do you know the amount of hard work it takes to keep the genepool that pure when my ancestors were nomads traversing vast lands with all types different ethnic groups?
Kismaayo needs to be defended cause its surrounded by Bantus, how come Bantus didn't try to mix with Rer Qooqaani/ Afmadow? Its because OG will tell em f*ck off, its the yaryars that they start off with.
Loool ngl ima have to do one of those ancestry tests one day lol. The only ancestry other than my clan I believe I have is baadicade hawiye. If ur kids are raised in the West and stay here the truth is they will eventually mix sxb
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there are no rivers in afmadoow areas, so no bantus live there.
they live in jamaame, on the west side, owning farms, and some OGs own farms on the other side. I was happy to find out even those arent mixing with them, thank god!
maybe we should deliberately dry up all rivers in somalia until they leave?
they arent that many in kismaayo(according to eye witnesses).
Forget Bantu. You got clan elders now who are pure oromo who are part of Somaliland traditional mechanism. That's how far Oromo reached in the north. You will find them saying how it's their land now. PL is the purest place. Forget the Madow slaves we bought so we can use them to 'fish' for us because the 'sea' used to be 'no man's land' back then and one of the key reasons why Somalis don't eat fish. If you went out to sea and met these non Somali fishermen, they would enslave you or kill you since that was the world they were living in back then.
The world was nothing like now with international law and all that only 200 years ago. You needed treaties and stuff to ensure safe passage thru the sea or you would be hijacked by pirates but worse yet murdered by other nations if they got their hands on you. I like how King Osman used 'Madows' and said we will send you out and when you come back give us the fish and if you don't 'may allah be with you as you become a slave in arabia or western world' looooool
The other thing I noticed about Madow and oromo is, as long as you live in the 'desert' they don't like to move into places like thhat. They prefer farming areas or places with rivers or big urban cities. So if you have either big city or farming area, be prepared for a cultural change.
The world was nothing like now with international law and all that only 200 years ago. You needed treaties and stuff to ensure safe passage thru the sea or you would be hijacked by pirates but worse yet murdered by other nations if they got their hands on you. I like how King Osman used 'Madows' and said we will send you out and when you come back give us the fish and if you don't 'may allah be with you as you become a slave in arabia or western world' looooool
The other thing I noticed about Madow and oromo is, as long as you live in the 'desert' they don't like to move into places like thhat. They prefer farming areas or places with rivers or big urban cities. So if you have either big city or farming area, be prepared for a cultural change.
Didn’t u guys assimilate zanzibari people? Or is that a Fkd myth
I am not sure. But I know MJ men would marry some Bantu women back in the day. I am not sure if it was the other way around. I could be wrong, as I don't have history. But I do know their used for 'fishing' and they only settle around coastal areas, not the 'desert' areas. They are useless Madow when it comes to 'nomadism'. It's not their lifestyle and they can't handle it. You won't ever see a Madow with a camel in the desert. But he is ok when it comes to farming or fishing, that is his cultural roots. King Osman used this to his advantage and said go 'fish for us' and bring us second source of food livlihood in-case of 'droughts' that kill of our sheeps and goats. King Osman was ensuring our food survival by diversifying our sources of food while also being cautious that it was no man's land in the sea and dangerous to send a majerteni citizen there.
A-lot of King Osman policies aren't deeply investigated in Somalia, but he was quite a remarkable king and my father speaks fondly of him as a man who was ahead of his time. He was way ahead of his time and other Somalis. The guy had his own courts, govt, palaces, translators as officials, he had schooling systems, an army, police, and a territory. He had established trade partners in arabia, india, and zanzibar. That's why my dad appreciates him in comparison to what other clan elders were doing you do the maths.
Plenty Madows in Kismayo
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@Gabz19988 if you want to 'preserve' Somaliness, you need to preserve nomadism. They go hand in hand with our culture. The other thing is, it keeps a blanket of protection for your Somaliness addiction project as it keeps away peoples who are not 'nomads' you can live in pure isolation and undisturbed by other communities. No Madow is going to become a nomad sxb, it never happened in history and won't happen anytime soon either.
As long as your in urban area or farming area, expect intermixing with Madow, it's natural. When MJ brought Madows to coastal towns for fishing purposes, the mjs who lived in coastal areas would inevitably mix with them, how much and at what rate I don't know. But most MJ'S 95% were reer miyi anyways, only a small pocket was coastal, so the effect it would have on Majerten as a whole would be minimal. But if you want to become urbanized well you need to accept what comes with urbanism which is a 'flock' of different peoples, no-one can reverse this. It's been like that in all history for urban areas. It's melting pot of peoples. If you want pure somaliness, stay in 'miyi' cause they won't come there and marry women there and keep yourself pure. It's not hard at all. There is no need to attack each other or abuse each other. Just make your decision.
As long as your in urban area or farming area, expect intermixing with Madow, it's natural. When MJ brought Madows to coastal towns for fishing purposes, the mjs who lived in coastal areas would inevitably mix with them, how much and at what rate I don't know. But most MJ'S 95% were reer miyi anyways, only a small pocket was coastal, so the effect it would have on Majerten as a whole would be minimal. But if you want to become urbanized well you need to accept what comes with urbanism which is a 'flock' of different peoples, no-one can reverse this. It's been like that in all history for urban areas. It's melting pot of peoples. If you want pure somaliness, stay in 'miyi' cause they won't come there and marry women there and keep yourself pure. It's not hard at all. There is no need to attack each other or abuse each other. Just make your decision.
I hate Pro Somaliness cunts on the SPOT their like 'we must protect somaliness race' but what protected somaliness? it was our of way of life being nomads and living in the desert isolated and interbreeding like rats. If you don't want to protect the nomad way of life that preserved somaliness, you shouldn't be talking about how you want somali to remain pure. It makes no sense.
Protect those camels and 'daaqsin' culture which ensures isolation from the rest of the world or else shut the f*ck up and urbanize or joining farming or coastal communities and start becoming less pure as times go on thru intermarriage with different groups of people. I keep reminding Somalis that culture you hate which is nomadism is the exact reason why somalis remained pure, it was because noone would come in the desert from the outside world which meant interbreeding among ourselves. If you don't like nomadism, you simply do not like somali pureness project as they both go hand in hand.
So rather then call for race preservation which is impossible feat to achieve in an urban area or farming area or coastal area as different people congregate and mix. Stop asking for things that are impossible in the wrong environment. Ask for cultural preservation, conserve the nomadic way of life, thru this you conserve the somali race as they return back to nomadism, this will mean other groups of people will 'separate' from you as they don't understand nomadism.
Protect those camels and 'daaqsin' culture which ensures isolation from the rest of the world or else shut the f*ck up and urbanize or joining farming or coastal communities and start becoming less pure as times go on thru intermarriage with different groups of people. I keep reminding Somalis that culture you hate which is nomadism is the exact reason why somalis remained pure, it was because noone would come in the desert from the outside world which meant interbreeding among ourselves. If you don't like nomadism, you simply do not like somali pureness project as they both go hand in hand.
So rather then call for race preservation which is impossible feat to achieve in an urban area or farming area or coastal area as different people congregate and mix. Stop asking for things that are impossible in the wrong environment. Ask for cultural preservation, conserve the nomadic way of life, thru this you conserve the somali race as they return back to nomadism, this will mean other groups of people will 'separate' from you as they don't understand nomadism.
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@Ferrari your bantu fears are unfounded. They live in riverine areas and farming settlements and 'coastal' areas or 'urban areas'. If you want to avoid them, keep your desert living up, they won't come there as they are not adapted to those conditions. Preservation of culture is what brings preservation of races not the other way around. You can't preserve a race in an environment that is with mixed congregations of people like urban areas or coastal areas or farming areas.
You should carry on your 'war project' of your grandfathers who were cleansing oromo from the desert, their still remnants left like 'borana' clean them out and make the desert a pure somali area that we can return to and learn our culture and thru that interbreed together to bring back our pureness as the world remains outside of us. But don't ask for such things in urbanized areas, your fighting an impossible battle.
As all urban areas are known through-out history to intermix, they live in the same area, they can't avoid each other, they will speak the same language and have commonalities in urban culture and religion usually. It's unavoidable their intermixing, your fighting history of humanity here, just stop it and preserve nomadism and u preserved somali in 2 seconds because no other group of people will come out to the desert and follow you except somalis since they know the culture of the desert.
You should carry on your 'war project' of your grandfathers who were cleansing oromo from the desert, their still remnants left like 'borana' clean them out and make the desert a pure somali area that we can return to and learn our culture and thru that interbreed together to bring back our pureness as the world remains outside of us. But don't ask for such things in urbanized areas, your fighting an impossible battle.
As all urban areas are known through-out history to intermix, they live in the same area, they can't avoid each other, they will speak the same language and have commonalities in urban culture and religion usually. It's unavoidable their intermixing, your fighting history of humanity here, just stop it and preserve nomadism and u preserved somali in 2 seconds because no other group of people will come out to the desert and follow you except somalis since they know the culture of the desert.
Majority kulahaa they live with big numbers in Jowhar district only. And even there they are on par with Gaaljecel.
@Gabz19988 the bantu are heavily settled in the south, it's prime area for them to live since it's farming and urban combined. In PL it's only small pocket who were brought over as slaves to do our fishing for us as we feared the 'no man's land' sea which wasn't under any international regulations back in those days. They only have small remnants in the coastal areas till today. Even this I argue would've of caused interbreeding as they would've developed the same coastal culture as reer bariga, spoke the language, had the same religion and similar occupation which was 'fishing'. But since coastal communities are very small pocket of the majerten clan as a whole, maybe 5% it doesn't effect us 'nomadic' majertens who lived in the desert in isolation. Even bah dir oo lagu hanto inay Madow yihin, are heavily desert clans ask @Cognitivedissonance so it can't be a large section of bah dir itself since their not any different to any other majerten clan who rely heavily on livestock and desert living.
You can't argue you live with Madow for centuries and never married, yet you speak the same language, religion, and have the same southern culture. This is what causes marraiges to happen is commonality in language which means you understand each other and can communicate, you share a common geographic area so you perform the same work as them, you live in an urban area so you know the importance of 'xafad' friendship. Stop thinking this 91 galgaduud mentality of HG was in the south before, it wasn't and u know this. This is a new tribal culture they brought you from the desert areas, you guys don't live like that, your only ACTING LIKE U DO. Your trying to be northerner culture in a southern environment. Stop the lies. You guys interbreeded heaps before 1991 and before this tribal nonsense was exported to you thru HG moryans who started to settle the south and bring you their 'galgaduud' culture.
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