Somali with E-M293

Faahiye

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@Abdi99,

I am not that knowledgeable with these stuff just a little interest lol. But if I'm not mistaken it is a south cushite haplogroup but some bantus have it due to having some admixture with them.


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Faahiye
 

Apollo

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@Abdi99

E-M293 is originally a Cushitic lineage, especially South Cushitic.

Many groups in Southeast Africa are admixed with South Cushites.

See this study and thread:

 
Its southern cushite marker but among somalis its found mainly in Degodia clan which lives liiban region and NFD so its not something to be surprised at
 

Apollo

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I see. Did you mean to merge this topic to E-M293?

It wasn't really thread worthy, could have asked here as well. On the 23andme forums they have discussed this issue as well, search there for more info. Occasionally it makes mistakes, but overall it is a legit system.
 

The Somali Caesar

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:lol: He made a thread on r/Somalia doubting whether Somali clans are real because of his anomalous result.

He says in the end some Arab tribes have different paternal tribes like Berbers,Copts etc but aren’t those groups Arabized and aren’t pure Arabs?

I think also there wasn’t a single founder of any Somali tribe as most tribes has multiple haplogroups.
 

Apollo

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I think also there wasn’t a single founder of any Somali tribe as most tribes has multiple haplogroups.

Most sub-sub-sub-clans with less than 20 name abtiris usually only have one single lineage.

At the macro-clan level (Isaaq, Darod, Hawiye etc) do things become shady and murky. But most sub-clans are legit.
 

The Somali Caesar

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Most sub-sub-sub-clans with less than 20 name abtiris usually only have one single lineage.

At the macro-clan level (Isaaq, Darod, Hawiye etc) do things become shady and murky. But most sub-clans are legit.
I have people in my family on a sub-sub-sub- clan on Habar Jeclo let alone Isaaq who have a different haplogroup than me.

My cousin is a Biciide(Muuse Abokor) sub-sub-sub clan of Habar Jeclo .While I’m Reer Badeed (Maxamed Abokor) a sub-sub-sub clan of Habar Jeclo also

He’s a Haplogroup E-V32 while I’m a Haplogroup T-L208.
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Faahiye

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I have people in my family on a sub-sub-sub- clan on Habar Jeclo let alone Isaaq who have a different haplogroup than me.

My cousin is a Biciide(Muuse Abokor) sub-sub-sub clan of Habar Jeclo .While I’m Reer Badeed (Maxamed Abokor) a sub-sub-sub clan of Habar Jeclo also

He’s a Haplogroup E-V32 while I’m a Haplogroup T-L208.
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@Abdi99,

I guess 16 generations is the safe side then. Maxamed abokor so far are mostly T whilst I've seen muuse abokor with E-V32 and T-208.


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Faahiye
 

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