Breaking News Somali Man Commits Terror Attack in Melbourne Australia

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  1. Yaquub

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    Australia is cursed by the blood of the aborigines that died in their multitudes. Kinda like how america will never have peace for how it treated native americans.


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  2. Kariya

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    Ey-wala Da'ab! ABSOLUTE TRUTH! There is cursed blood in their soil!
     
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  3. Ahlubayt

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    All his family except their little children should be stripped of their passport and be deported.

    Only then can majority of some families take serious about bringing up their own children probably, because if they don't they will pay the price.
     
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  4. Kariya

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    Thats the same policy that was employed by the Nazis. Now Switzerland, Austria, and Hungary are resurrecting it. They are gripped by neo-nazis in sheep's clothing.

    I don't see how punishing a family would help to solve a problem. Punish the criminal. The family already has to deal with shame as punishment enough...
     
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  5. Saywa

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    Most Muslims don't take any notice of the violence in Islamic scriptures that is why they dont blow themselves up.

    There is no need to change the scriptures, but we need to look at them with fresh critical eyes without prejudice. The Muslim world needs to move towards secularism, scientific advancement and social reform, but how can we Muslims change when we still look for guidance from books that are over a 1000 years old.

    Allah does not want us to stagnant. Surely the fact that Allah always sends new prophets, is evidence that Allah wants humans to always reform and change for the better. Reforming Islam is just a continuation of what Allah started.
     
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  6. Kariya

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    I personally believe that secularism in the Islamic world can be achieved. However, a central government that functions on principles of 'Ibadi' Islam would be most effective. Sunni Islam and Shia islam aren't good for centralizing control, as MANY muslim countries are either multi-ethnic/racial or multi-religion based societies.

    However, not many would be open to that. We need to stress research and education as major tenets of our shared culture. Piety alone won't feed or clothe our children, nor equip them for the future.
     
  7. Saywa

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    How can a government be secular and be prinicipled upon ibadah at the same time?

    There can be no room for any religious law in Somalia. Somalis need to keep their religion personal and not impose it upon others by demanding shariah law.

    The issue with religious law is that every person has their own interpretations, so every group will get angry and violent that their religious ways are not being followed. The way to completely bypass that is to to say: there will be complete seperation of state law and Islamic teachings.
     
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  8. CaliSomali

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    Why the fuck do people even do shit like this? What do they wish to achieve by hurting innocent people? Fuck this guy, bringing bad attention to our people. He should have known that "Somalis" are considered their own race by the alt-right. When arabs and blacks commit terrorist crimes, people don't harp on their nationality like they do with us. I wonder why we're singled out specifically?
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  9. Kariya

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    I understand your stance. However, a major principle of Ibadi is that a community has the right to determine its own leaders, hence their own laws.

    Wheras in Sunni and Shia, leaders of any given community has to be a descendant of the Prophet (blessings be upon him).

    Also, For many Muslims, Islam cannot be divorced from culture nor politics. This poses a special problem as it would take time to develop any degree of successful secularism as we see in say, a nation like Turkey.
     
  10. Saywa

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    The issue with democracy is the average voter!

    Terrorist are actually doing a huge favour for secularist Muslims. Most Muslims are moderates, the more they see of Muslim terrorist killing other Muslims and causing havoc in Muslims countries, the more they will think shariah law is not so great after all.

    Reformation in the Christian world was long, difficult and bloody. The same is already happening in the Muslim world.

    Muslims go crazy when there is talk of reforming Islam, but the truth is if you look at the history if Islam, it has gone through reform from the very beginning. The prophet himself said Allah over ruled previous rules, thaf were laid down to the sahabas.

    So reform is already happening, the likes of ISIS and Al Shabaab are just bringing the "bloody" aspect of the reform part.
     
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  11. Kariya

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    Horners in general have the most cohesion out of most groups in the African continent that could easily disrupt and outpace Eurasians.

    Eurasians know that Somalis have a veneer that cannot be easily compromised, so they try to discredit the Somali at every turn by coopting the Somali voice and psyche.

    It took centuries for Eurasians to convince other Africans that they are somehow 'inferior'. The Eurasian didnt have as much time to try it with the Somalis, as they'd quickly learn that Somalis have their OWN visions for the world.

    The stubbornness of Somalis is what has kept the Somali people strong with resolve. It will continue to be their strength as Somalis work to find their own Solutions. Without Arabs or Whites
     
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  12. Kariya

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    I concur to an extent, for that same tide could change overnight and reinforce the push for authoritarianism in response to a fear of the West.

    But you are absolutely right, Islam has a very LONG history of reform. In fact, Islam led many of the advancements prior to the reinforcement of Christianity
     
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  13. khalid426

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    I think a great model for a Islamic society is senegal.

    The attack has been claimed by Islamic State apparently
     
  14. Yaquub

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    This is media bullshit. Isis and other terrorist organisations will claim anything to remain relevant and we all know it. Curse this retarded asshole! for allowing them to bash the somali community at a time like this when the beautiful and smart ilhan just got into congress.

    The community for real needs to start raising their kids and reporting mental illness or the media won't care and will label us terrorists. Notice how unlike the jews not one somali has criticised the media for their biased views on somalis! not once has a somali person called in on radio to explain that this is a mental health situation and not terrorist linked.

    Where are his family? they should renounce him and tell the truth that he was mentally ill.
     
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  15. Kariya

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    Senegal would be best in terms of principles and culture, however Somalis are VERY different from Senegalese in terms of culture and outlook. What the Senegalese have achieved CANNOT be easily mimicked in Somalia, or the greater Islamic world for that matter.
     
  16. kickz

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    If there was reform to be done Allah would do it himself, but He has already said the last Prophet has come, ie there is no reform to be had.
     
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  17. D2HUM8L31NE

    D2HUM8L31NE I don't care

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    Can someone pls answer me WHY ALL TERRORIST say allahu akbar it is a great word that is mashallah but why don't they say lailahailalah that guarantees.You jannah

    I have a theory that they are either undercover agents or possessed jinns or sihr

    And to all non Muslims hating Islam for this



    [2:190] “You may fight in the cause of GOD against those who attack you but do not aggress. GOD does not love the aggressors.”

    [2:193] “You may also fight them to eliminate oppression, and to worship GOD freely. If they refrain, you shall not aggress; aggression is permitted only against the aggressors.”

    refrain here is said to be meant as retraining from Islam
    That shows even if he is refraining he is not too be harmed

    “God does not forbid you from being good to those who have not fought you in the religion or driven you from your homes, or from being just towards them.God loves those who are just.” (Surat al-Mumtahana, 8)

    For God's sake it says .Here clearly that allah does not love corruption yet even many of our leaders still do not listen
    “God does not love corruption”. (Surat al-Baqara, 205)
     
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  18. Pureblood

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    @R.Kelly can you give us your insight into the Australian Geeljire community. Are you seeing what I’m seeing ?
     
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  19. Unstable

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    There isn't anywhere near 30-40k Somalis in Australia. Melbourne's Somali population is maximum 15k. Another case of Somalis exaggerating their population.
     
  20. Yaquub

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    The hypocrites see only what they want to see. They are dumb death and blind and will be worse of in hell then the regular kafir.
     
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