Somali Girls aint Feeling us, Here's Why.

[jugjugwacwac]

Don't you think marrying ajnabi because he is ajnabi and not because he's doing better than your average faarax is a problem that is entirely the fault of the women? How can you pin that on us? I would never ask a successful Somali woman to marry a less successful faarax and if it would mean her equal is an ajnabi, I would encourage her myself.

Majority of girls who marry ajnabi do so because they are ajnabi. That's it. Maybe we ought to seperate them from those who genuinely can't find their equal in somali men, though even that is a little exaggerated and would be a lie in places where there is a high concentration of Somalis.

Of course it's a problem, and not all of it is our fault sxb. But we have an image problem as Somali men, and that contributes to the self-hate of these Somali girls. I'm just saying we're at fault in so far as our collective actions as Somali men contribute to their self-hate. Anything beyond that is not our responsibility.

 

[Lord Flacko]

Cut out welfare and the family will come back together.

 

[merka]

i get what you mean, merka.

a lot of somali father suffer from ptsd and depression tbh

they never got the help they needed. dead and displacedd family members, their previous education receiving zero recognition in the west, and abject poverty. yeah they are not the upstanding individuals that we would like them to be, but any woman that sees that and internalizes it is an inept and out of touch woman. we can barely comprehend what our parents go through on a daily basis. they hide their sorrow well.

also @Duke of Bohol it's time to start acting like a mod. like this shit is getting ridiculous.

We have to remember that most of our parents came to ran to the west in their 20s and 30s freshly educated and expecting to use that knowledge to build their country and then the civil war happened and everything went to shit.

They were the post-colonial generation that benefited from all the education reforms of the 1960s and 70s and were supposed to take the country on the path to development but when Somalis fled all over the world in the 80s and 90s all of that investment had been wasted.

There wasn't even have enough time for Somali nationalism to fully set in so that there would be a reference point where people can come back together to rebuild the country. Instead we regressed back to neo-tribal fiefdoms.

It was honestly the worst time ever to have a civil war if there could ever be a good time to have one.

 

[Bohol]

@DuctTape There is nothing to be apologetic about (I only speak the truth about race traitors). If the farahs here are not careful
and drop their guards you will all be turned into this kind of Chinese beta. Some women are never satisfied until they have the
upper hand, give them an inch they will take a mile.

 

[T1a]

I've not seen any evidence for Somali women being more educated than Somali men. I don't consider having a bachelors degree vs. not having one as automatically being more educated. It depends on what it's in.

They are less qasaro, when it comes to comparing non bachelor having Somali males and non bachelor having Somali females.

 

[Inquisitive_]

. But we have an image problem as Somali men, and that contributes to the self-hate of these Somali girls.

The image problem only becomes a problem if you make it one, it's like the whole "awkward" thing with women, it only becomes awkward if you feel awkward yourself first.

I had experience with a bunch of these self-hating women and never had issues with them, the odd case they brought up the bad Somali image I would up the ante and tell her I aspire to be like them pointing out none existent positives, she quickly kills that conversation and it never comes up again.

The same at work place, just recently a colleague made a joke about Somali Jihadi brides, instead of feeling embarrassed like must cucks would do and appease these motheruckers and show your inferiority, I upped the ante.

I affirmed it and responded that our women love the warrior males because their mothers grew up seeing European colonialist being brutally slaughtered and used to narrate these as bed stories to the daughter hence their hatred for snowflake Western beta males and love for warriors, they ended up agreeing with me.

You force your opinions on people, the bad image of the Somali male is a massive bonus because the opposite image is the Asian males and we see what happened to them.

 

[jugjugwacwac]

Interesting topic. I wholeheartedly agree with your first point, In general ,women for some reason have no interest in patriotism, case point being french women when they were occupied by the nazis. French women started a baby boom with the nazis during the vichy regime. thee are also a plethora of case studies such as this one. They are quick to seek the favours of men that are seen as more dominant and are more capable of providing the necessities for success, whether they are part of their in group or not. They are genetically dispositioned to be this way due to evolution, it is therefore a natural phenomenon. Somali men do not have a high standing status in society, due to ripe crime rates, unemployment, drug use and worst of all religious extremism. we are just in shitty times. high rates of miscegenation in the somali community is inevitable, as the dynamic between somali men and women worsens. how genes affect society either negatively or positively is a controversial topic. interesting question, what type of person comes to mind when you think of a #refugeesarewelcome supporter, is it a man or a woman?

This guys gets it.

I noticed a lot of guys on here seemed perplexed and honestly confused as to why some Somali girls talk shit about Somali guys and why some choose to marry ajanabis. The intent of my thread was to give them some answers, but to my surprise they made it like I was speaking nonsense. All I was trying to tell them was that women do not have loyalty to the in-group like most men do. Women want the men who are at the top of the social and dominance hierarchies, whether these men are from their own ethnicity or not. Since Somali men, sometimes for reasons outside of our control (eg Media presence/representation), are at the bottom of the social and dominance hierarchies, it's no wonder some Somali girls hold us in low esteem and that some would even prefer an ajanabi over us.

 

[jugjugwacwac]

The image problem only becomes a problem if you make it one, it's like the whole "awkward" thing with women, it only becomes awkward if you feel awkward yourself first.

I had experience with a bunch of these self-hating women and never had issues with them, the odd case they brought up the bad Somali image I would up the ante and tell her I aspire to be like them pointing out none existent positives, she quickly kills that conversation and it never comes up again.

The same at work place, just recently a colleague made a joke about Somali Jihadi brides, instead of feeling embarrassed like must cucks would do and appease these motheruckers and show your inferiority, I upped the ante.

I affirmed it and responded that our women love the warrior males because their mothers grew up seeing European colonialist being brutally slaughtered and used to narrate these as bed stories to the daughter hence their hatred for snowflake Western beta males and love for warriors, they ended up agreeing with me.

You force your opinions on people, the bad image of the Somali male is a massive bonus because the opposite image is the Asian males and we see what happened to them.

I agree, that's how I approach these types of situations as well. But would it not have been better that we didn't have an image problem to begin with, especially one that contributes to self-hate not just for the girls but some Somali guys as well? I personally would prefer that Somalis in Canada weren't known for trapping, rapping and killing.

 

[government]

I've not seen any evidence for Somali women being more educated than Somali men. I don't consider having a bachelors degree vs. not having one as automatically being more educated. It depends on what it's in.

They are less qasaro, when it comes to comparing non bachelor having Somali males and non bachelor having Somali females.

I agree with you 100%

 

[Ferrari]

Of course it's a problem, and not all of it is our fault sxb. But we have an image problem as Somali men, and that contributes to the self-hate of these Somali girls. I'm just saying we're at fault in so far as our collective actions as Somali men contribute to their self-hate. Anything beyond that is not our responsibility.

I don't think you can say that sxb. If that was true and the result of their self hate was a product of our image, why don't we see them pursuing men with better image? It makes no sense to pick men outside of your community who possess the exact traits and behaviors as those of your own community. No way.

Bad image? Yes
Go get men with good image. It's that simple but that's not what we see.

 

[xisaabiye]

Sadly majority of somali parents had a temporal vision of living in the west. They by and large thought "Somalia way xagaagidoonta" thus they invested whatever monies they made, in purchasing land and building properties back home. This lead to an entire generation of somalis being born and raised in ghettos and not having the same luxuries as many of our peers. The most well off somali families in my experience, are those who fully invested in their children's futures here as opposed to trying to relive nostalgic Somalia. Didn't mean to derail, but all of this is correlated

 

[jugjugwacwac]

I've not seen any evidence for Somali women being more educated than Somali men. I don't consider having a bachelors degree vs. not having one as automatically being more educated. It depends on what it's in.

They are less qasaro, when it comes to comparing non bachelor having Somali males and non bachelor having Somali females.

U misunderstood me sxb. I was giving my take on their education level and its quality, I was talking about why Somali girls who are 'educated' will reject guys without a uni degree. It's because girls use things like degrees as status indicators, and if ur below her in too many indocators you'll get eliminated if she has enough options.

As for their education level, most would have been better served to stay home and learn af-soomaali and how to be good wives and mothers from their moms instead of being brainwashed in uni.

 

[Ferrari]

I hope that makes sense @jugjugwacwac . Didn't read.

 

[Inquisitive_]

I agree, that's how I approach these types of situations as well. But would it not have been better that we didn't have an image problem to begin with, especially one that contributes to self-hate not just for the girls but some Somali guys as well? I personally would prefer that Somalis in Canada weren't known for trapping, rapping and killing.

It's a huge positive for us because it adds diversity and hence makes it easier for many different guys to stand out since the standards are set very low.

If all of them had the same positive image like us, the fucking standards would be crazy! and the current dreadful Somali female market doesn't even deserve those standards anyway.

You hear it from Asian women often (they are all the same) when describing their males which is true, they all have the same temperament mostly, they use this to justify going for white males, the same would happen.

The worst thing you can ever do is raise standards particularly when it comes to women, your as good as dead the day your unable to maintain it.

 

[jugjugwacwac]

I don't think you can say that sxb. If that was true and the result of their self hate was a product of our image, why don't we see them pursuing men with better image? It makes no sense to pick men outside of your community who possess the exact traits and behaviors as those of your own community. No way.

Bad image? Yes
Go get men with good image. It's that simple but that's not what we see.

Those men do have better images, read my paragraph on media representation in the original post. But generally I agree with u, and I don't have all the answers sxb, some of the choices of these girls is bewildering really.

 

[Bahal]

Interesting topic. I wholeheartedly agree with your first point, In general ,women for some reason have no interest in patriotism, case point being french women when they were occupied by the nazis. French women started a baby boom with the nazis during the vichy regime. thee are also a plethora of case studies such as this one. They are quick to seek the favours of men that are seen as more dominant and are more capable of providing the necessities for success, whether they are part of their in group or not. They are genetically dispositioned to be this way due to evolution, it is therefore a natural phenomenon. Somali men do not have a high standing status in society, due to ripe crime rates, unemployment, drug use and worst of all religious extremism. we are just in shitty times. high rates of miscegenation in the somali community is inevitable, as the dynamic between somali men and women worsens. how genes affect society either negatively or positively is a controversial topic. interesting question, what type of person comes to mind when you think of a #refugeesarewelcome supporter, is it a man or a woman?

Last time I said this I was hounded by the women on this forum kkkkkkk

 

[jugjugwacwac]

It's a huge positive for us because it adds diversity and hence makes it easier for many different guys to stand out since the standards are set very low.

If all of them had the same positive image like us, the fucking standards would be crazy! and the current dreadful Somali female market doesn't even deserve those standards anyway.

You hear it from Asian women often (they are all the same) when describing their males which is true, they all have the same temperament mostly, they use this to justify going for white males, the same would happen.

The worst thing you can ever do is raise standards particularly when it comes to women, your as good as dead the day your unable to maintain it.

It's only a huge positive for guys like me and you who are doing well in comparison to the average Somali guy, but it would be selfish of us to want to maintain the status quo just because it makes the game easier for us. Right now the standards are so low in Toronto that a half decent Somali guy can land himself a dime Somali girl. But if I could have it my way I'd rather the majority of Somali guys be doing well and have our image rehabilitated, even if this means the competition for quality Somali women would go up.

 

[Inquisitive_]

I don't think you can say that sxb. If that was true and the result of their self hate was a product of our image, why don't we see them pursuing men with better image?.

Because the fast majority of them whom marry out ITS NOT DUE to self-hate, or at least self-hate is not the underlying issue for her choice, the top 4 reasons are as follows.

1) She's late 20's early 30's over-educated and too old for Somali males, hence has no choice (make up the majority)

2) Divorced women (second majority group that marry out, may dislike Somali males because of divorce but it's not self-hate)

3) Low Self Esteem Lottery Girl (The Gypsie girl is an example, any Somali male could have easily picked her up instead, no self-hate their)

4) Self hate (make up a very tiny minority of the women, I know these, they usually end up marrying above their weight)


The worst choices you cite are made exclusively by groups 2/3 and sometimes 1 when the issue becomes desperate, the self-hate women very rarely fits your description, believe me I know a handful of them. They do not come on forums like these and want nothing to do with their people.

 

[Bohol]

@jugjugwacwac It is very dishonest to suggest that those that marry out do it because there is no "educated" Somali guys.
We all know the real reason you shouldn't be afraid to say it . So lets set the record straight once and for all.


1. Majority of Somali women that marry out don't marry high achievers infact it is the opposite they usually marry low achievers,
ex convicts, jobless converts etc


2. Them being self haters is not the fault of Somali men, just like some women are more inclined to be ty




Exhibit A: Getting down with the local Gypsies in the park. Like I said majority of those that marry out are just dumb bimbo s.
So don't make excuses for them, they are what they are. So lets accept them for what they are rather than trying to shift the blame on
Somali men.

 

[VixR]

I agree with much of the body of the message and deeper analysis which many people here can't appreciate, real intellect is being deeply cognisant of yourself and be able to accurately interpret the subtle subconscious processes that goes on in the brains and all of it's nuisances that forms human behaviours and be able to articulate it as brother @jugjugwacwac has done.

Not the pseudo garbage conformist endless regurgitation's and quackademic defecation's you see here often. Once you have mastery over that, not only are you able to effectively change yourself but also change/influence others. This is what they mean with mastery over oneself.

I disagree with the metric on which a female's quality is defined, the 21st century Eurocentric so called "highly educated" hybrid of careerist/part-time house wife, full-time quackademics/contrarian/parasite like @VixR are the worst women to have around, hence every male that is able to avoid them avoids them like a plague and they run around barren/spinsters/dejected/rejected/debased ing about how "man" are scared of "educated" women.

There is nothing remotely appealing about these types, psychologically/emotionally or physically, they are spiritually dead people, their humour is grotesque, their empathy is desolate and they are generally unbearing and whatever they do spawn comes out like a class A Doqon.

I know of man that recently married one against advice, he is carrying around lube bottles because her sex drive is virtually none existent, he was warned about this as she used to pride herself in being asexual, it's sad that the worst women are today being championed as the best.

They say misery loves company. Self-commiseration evidently requires it. I don't even know where to start, but whatever helps you all get your proverbial rocks off, Inquisitive.