My family are from Muqdisho, and my parents are from the same sub sub clan
As far as I know I don't have any grandparents who aren't from my subclan
I'm pure as hell
Somali Founder Effect & Genetic Diversity
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My family are from Muqdisho, and my parents are from the same sub sub clan
As far as I know I don't have any grandparents who aren't from my subclan
I'm pure as hell
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Not true most somalis in baadiye look outside their subclan for marriage, even historically. My great grandmothers are a mix of Isaaq and Majerteen. Marrying outside your sub clan was more beneficial as it brought alliances and ended conflict, I don't know about other clans but the Dhulbahante disliked marrying within.
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What's your ROH score? I think you did 23andMe.
Can you beat me with 33?
World
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I haven't done a 23andMe.
Apollo
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70 ROH
70 Mb?
Are you sure? You need to look at the total Mb score. Not how many fragments you got.
70 Mb?
Are you sure? You need to look at the total Mb score. Not how many fragments you got.
Total ROH Mb: 69.44
Apollo
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Total ROH Mb: 69.44
Don't sweat it, it's still kind of normal by global standards.
Something is up with these SSAs. How do they have such low scores.
Tbh, that was the case for most Northern clans historically. I'm not sure about Southerners though.
Yes we marry amongst ourselves for the majority. However this has zero connections with IQ. How do you explain our successful states in the past.
The real reason they say it, is to demonize the 3th world, since we are the only ones that do it on a large scale.
By sharing this amongst ourselves on a public platform, you are just spreading misinformation. Nothing to be proud of.
The real reason they say it, is to demonize the 3th world, since we are the only ones that do it on a large scale.
By sharing this amongst ourselves on a public platform, you are just spreading misinformation. Nothing to be proud of.
Source:
Genomic Runs of Homozygosity Record Population History and Consanguinity
The human genome is characterised by many runs of homozygous genotypes, where identical haplotypes were inherited from each parent. The length of each run is determined partly by the number of generations since the common ancestor: offspring of cousin marriages have long runs of homozygosity...journals.plos.org
Most of the world has ROH Mb lenght of 50+, making Somalis with their 52 ROH Mb totally unremarkable and not inbred by global standards.
It's just that other Sub-Saharan Africans are odd with their very low ROH mb length.
You are so wrong, I don't know where to begin. The 52.2 number is a count of how many runs of homozygosity (ROH) exceed 1.5 Mbs. Your image is a count of ROH between 0.5-1 Mbs. It is totally irrelevant to this discussion. The number of ROH in this range is useful for detecting founder effects, but it is not very useful for detecting recent inbreeding.
Somalis, Oromo and Amhara all clearly exhibit a founder effect in comparison to other Africans. This is likely due to the fact that all three have significant Eurasian ancestry and exhibit a portion of the OOA founder effect present in all non Africans. You can see this most clearly when you compare Horn Africans to other Africans.
Notice how high the Amhara, Somali and Oromo are in mean total ROH 0.3-1 Mbs? This is because of the Eurasian bottleneck. But because the Amhara and Oromo practice exogamy, their ROH above 5 Mb in length are many times fewer than Somalis. ROH greater than 5 Mb are almost always a sign of inbreeding. You can then see the spike in ROH greater than 8 Mbs among Somalis, i.e very recent inbreeding.
Take a look at the first column ROH less than 1.5 Mb. Somalis, Oromo and Amhara have values much higher than other Africans because of Eurasian ancestry. Somalis at 146 and the Kikuyu at 85 for example. Low effective population size does not explain why the mean FROH of Somalis is 7x that of the Amhara, your explanation does not even come close. The Amhara and Oromo do have larger effective populations than Somalis but just barely, and certainly not enough to explain why 48.7% of Somalis have a FROH that is greater than second cousins.
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Some Somalis are inbred =/= all Somalis are inbred.
Anybody with a 23andMe file can check for themselves, count how many ROHs exceed 1.5 Mbs, I doubt anybody here has 40/50+. These are clearly some unrepresentative hicks.
https://www.math.mun.ca/~dapike/FF23utils/roh.php
Anybody with a 23andMe file can check for themselves, count how many ROHs exceed 1.5 Mbs, I doubt anybody here has 40/50+. These are clearly some unrepresentative hicks.
https://www.math.mun.ca/~dapike/FF23utils/roh.php
Apollo
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@Thegoodshepherd
Just calculated the correct way (counting up Mb length in each category - not the # or the total) and still I would be at the bottom of that graph.
@EDsomali do likewise if you can.
Just calculated the correct way (counting up Mb length in each category - not the # or the total) and still I would be at the bottom of that graph.
@EDsomali do likewise if you can.
Apollo
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LMAO, my dude, sorry but you have some ancestry overlap, for real.
My parents are from different sub-clans and my dad wasn't even born in Somalia but came from a merchant family.
Yet the curse of imbredness has fallen upon me.
