Somali-Arab Culture
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OmarLittle
Not your typical Farah
The world matters saxib. Almost everything is made-man. Definitions sometimes change. When you currently look up the definition of Arab this comes up: "a member of a Semitic people, originally from the Arabian peninsula and neighboring territories, inhabiting much of the Middle East and North Africa." Yes, even though Arab isn't technically a race (defined), it's still a group of people. Even though American is not a race, it's socially easier to say you're an American, even though many people might still say 'Somali-American'.
Galaeri
USC | Ururka Bililiqada iyo Kufsiga
Welp this was a successful thread. But I started a fucking civilwar between Arab bashers that get triggered over of a simply fact, arab bootyclappers, and civil people that understand there are indeed cultural similarities.
The Point of this thread was to point out the simple fact that Somalis and Yemenis have very Similar cultures. I knew it would trigger the Arabbashing bandwagoners, and it sure as hell did
For those of you who think I'm an Arab bootyclapper. No one is begging for anything bc I don't think I'm an Arab, and consider myself a black African. But I also don't deny the fucking obvious fact that we indeed have cultural similarities with our Yemeni Arab neighbors we've been trading with for centuries.
+1 for @CaptainMajidbecause he put it simply and perfectly.
I'm signing the f*ck out and won't be responding to this thread, peace.
There is no backtracking you dirty arab bootyclapping apologist. Wear your label.
You've pretty much just answered yourself.
DuctTape
I have an IQ of 300
How?
I literally just said that had we not mixed with this Middle Eastern population, we'd be equally unrelated to both non-cushitic Africans and Arabs. But that admixture has shifted us a little towards the Arabs. We are still very distant towards both, but we're skewed slightly towards Arabs if we're plotted on a PCA graph.
By saying that Somalis are made up of African and Non-arab Eurasian ancestry. Doesn't that mean this talk of Arab ancestry and cultural ties is a myth?
DNA test have already shown Somalis as pure east Africans as opposed to the Habesha who have some significant Arabian ancestry. Our middle-eastern mix preceded the Arabs by several millienia. There were other populations living in the Near East before the Arabs, you know.
DuctTape
I have an IQ of 300
Our DNA being made up of a pre-Arab populations makes the Arab ancestry a myth, but not the cultural ties. They still exist, whether we have Arab in us or not.
My point was that in terms of genetics we are not close to other Africans at all. The African component of our DNA is distinct and separated from Bantus by about 30,000 years. Remember that DNA-wise that's a massive amount of time. It also contains the genetic markers of an extinct African population, meaning we aren't closely related to any other modern day Africans. I'm well aware that there were populations before the Arabs.
Maybe you're mistaking generic Muslim behaviour/cultural norms with having similar cultures. I honestly cannot come up with any cultural similarities between Somalis and Arabs. Macawis and khat don't count as those are superficial, more recent (like, within the last 100 years) and not indigenous (khat is Ethiopian and the macawis is south-east Asian).Genetically, we are not close to anyone. This is because we are made up of two extinct population groups that are very distinct from other African and Asian population groups. But we are still ~60% black African on average. We are closer to Mtumbe from Uganda than we are to Ali from Yemen. No amount of verbal gymnastics can change that.
History is my favourite subject. I just don't suffer from cuqdad and try to pass off Indians and Arab people as Somalis like you.
DuctTape
I have an IQ of 300
Look earlier in this thread to see some of the similarities we have.
Genetically, we are not close to anyone. This is because we are made up of two extinct population groups that are very distinct from other African and Asian population groups. But we are still ~60% black African on average. We are closer to Mtumbe from Uganda than we are to Ali from Yemen. No amount of verbal gymnastics can change that.
Genetically we are not "close" to anyone, but we are closer to Arabs and even Europeans than Africans. This is fact.
Note that we aren't that far from African Americans because of their 15-20% European ancestry. We still skew slightly closer to Arabs and Europeans than West Africans, though not by a huge amount. We place smack dab between both groups, showing that we are a distinct people-group or "race", along with Ethiopians.
Our conspicuous lack of any alleles that are ubiquitous within Sub-Saharan Africa, like the sickle-cell anemia gene, also show how separate we are from the rest of Africa, and the Middle East for that matter, since even they carry the gene in smaller amounts. Obviously I'm using a single gene here to further my point, but my point is that we share more genetically with non-African populations than we do with African ones.
Dire Dewa's son
Malik Obama 4 president.
Why are you denying the obvious. I have Jeberti friends who acknowledge their history. Maybe it's a Christian thing
to deny history.
Jjero
MO-G GROUPIE ♡
Why are you denying the obvious. I have Jeberti friends who acknowledge their history. Maybe it's a Christian thing
Lol I doubt you do, there is no difference between a Muslim and Christian Tigrayan, we are all proud people. Stop trying so hard to prove we are 70% Arab.
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