Garaad diinle
We go by the rules of ijma'. It really doesn't matter if one sahabi said something contrary.
Should child marriage be banned in Somalia?
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Garaad diinle
Look if your talking about an absolute non mixing you're right there are no rulings against it as far as i know. You could say hajj is a free mixing. That's not what i mean with freemixing. There are boundaries between non mehram stated in the quran and sunnah that we muslims must follow.
8 pages arguing if you can sleep with a teen 
Garaad diinle
Nah i gotta say it developed into an interesting tangent and i can proudly say i learned a lot.8 pages arguing if you can sleep with a teen
Huh? that has nothing to do with what I am saying, Most issues have no Ijmaa', and this entire conversation is not about Ijmaa' its about permissible thigns being not allowed for a greater benefit.
Just because you love your western ideals more than Islam doesn't mean you need to project it onto us8 pages arguing if you can sleep with a teen
Yes but the whole issue of free mixing is not clear and has alot of ikhtilaaf and therefore a ruler must make a decision based on what he deems to be harmful to soceity and not because there is not clear text on it
Yes i am thankful that i don't argue day and night to justify marrying girls under 18 like you.
Also like we discussed in the other thread, don't shit on western culture while you live in the west. Hypocrisy is a big no no in Islam you should know that.
I will criticise western culture as much as I want, I didn't get a choice to live here, I was born here, plus, are you a Muslim? I find it interesting that if you live in a country you are not allowed to criticise it, you sounding like a madkhali bootlicker now.
Whats wrong with marrying under 18 girls?
I bet you can't even give me one piece of evidence other than your opinion(which I nor do anyone else care about)
Garaad diinle
I think i'm beginning to understand where you coming from. You see my friend where there are no 'jma' you find different madhabs with their own ijtihad supported by quran and sunnah. So in this case one might ask what do shafi's thing of this what do hanbalis say about that.
These sort of stuff i often times think is up to learned men to figurer out not rulers. That being the case you might very well be right about this or know something i'm ignorant of. That's why i ask for a dalil.
Rulers don't make it up they collect evidence discuss with informed scholars and make their decision based on that
Garaad diinle
We can't just keep arguing about this forever let's just agree to disagree.
Awad
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Garaad diinle
Very informative jazakallahu khaira.
Not just that as well
Umar Ibn khattab (RA) limited cousin marriage in fact he was pushing the men and the women to marry outside their tribe or race.
Yes somalis should apply that and marry outside their race.
Lets make a post about it and see how many people in this forum agree with this
Never understood why they’re against it (those who are against it )
At the end of the days other tribes and races are the people of allah doesn’t matter if they’re Jew , arab , Nigerian , somali , Spanish etc they believe in allah and that’s all it matters.
Some Somalis themselves hold cultures over deen which is so wrong islam
that has nothing to do with limiting cousin marriage. just say you want an cadaan girl with your chest.
You talk to them, they are so interested in race and qabiil and all of that its embarrsiing
I remember a hadith
It was narrated from Ubayy ibn Ka‘b that a man boasted in an ignorant manner of his tribal lineage, so he told him to bite his father’s male member, and he did not use a metaphor. The people looked askance at him, so he said to the people: I can see what you are thinking, and I can only say this: that the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) instructed us: “If you hear someone boasting in an ignorant manner of his tribal lineage, then tell him to bite his father’s male member, and do not use a metaphor.”
Narrated by Ahmad (35/157); classed as hasan by the commentators on al-Musnad.
I don't like cadaan women thanks, Umar ibn khattab didn't discourage just cousin marriages, thats more of a modern day western thing, he encouraged people to marry outside of their tribe and cities, basically diversify who you marry, because different races of people have different strengths, this is even known in animal breeding aswell, point being, if somalis want to just marry inside their qabiil or only somalis they are limiting their diversity in genetics and therefore limiting there strenght.
