Should a man always pay for dates?

You're just an old fashion. So perhaps you should understand that nowadays younger people do it differently. The woman should contribute - if she is working and has the means to do so - during the time the two people are talking, meeting in restaurants, and seeing each other.

If she doesn't have the means to do so, she should let the guy know that she won't be able to contribute due to her lack of jobs or saved money.

The era of men paying for everything is over.
I actually heard a story of a woman having to ask a guy what type of restaurant they will be going to and how expensive will it be.

She was ok with paying ( but admitted that she only cause of what all the men like you are saying about women having to pay ), and said since men make women pay .. they should be considerate and not go to expensive places.
 
I know that even the guys that were debating with me would mostly agree, well the honest ones.

If the woman of their dreams walked into their lives, they’d pay in a heart beat. This wouldn’t even be a conversation.

For that reason, as a woman you shouldn’t be okay with paying as it’s his way of illustrating that, you’re not that great in his eyes. Men settle and marry women they don’t love everyday. As a woman be a bit savvy and try to to find a man that truly thinks you’re his dream woman.

Even guys that don’t have much will try to take you to places within their means. Maybe set a picnic ect.
@Amina99 I know we are not on good terms, but this advise only applies if you want a low value man.

A Serious man does not want a dream woman, he wants a compatible woman.

The signs to look out for is his genuine interest in your family&friends,beliefs, hobbies, social media footprint and your past relationships.

Any man who uses his wallet to impress you is low value, because he has nothing else to offer. He is equal to the woman who use her body to attract men.
 
@Amina99 I know we are not on good terms, but this advise only applies if you want a low value man.

A Serious man does not want a dream woman, he wants a compatible woman.

The signs to look out for is his genuine interest in your family&friends,beliefs, hobbies, social media footprint and your past relationships.

Any man who uses his wallet to impress you is low value, because he has nothing else to offer. He is equal to the woman who use her body to attract men.
A dream woman would be a woman that ticks all of his boxes. Men meet beautiful women everyday.
 
@Amina99 I know we are not on good terms, but this advise only applies if you want a low value man.

A Serious man does not want a dream woman, he wants a compatible woman.

The signs to look out for is his genuine interest in your family&friends,beliefs, hobbies, social media footprint and your past relationships.

Any man who uses his wallet to impress you is low value, because he has nothing else to offer. He is equal to the woman who use her body to attract men.
We ? It’s you who attacked me sir. I have nothing against you lol

And money to me isn’t everything. I didn’t mean to come off that way. There are men with money who think they can do whatever they want, no substance, no character, and I don’t care for those types.

Its like women who are only beautiful but don’t have nothing else going for them and awful personality and whatnot.

Physical attraction is important but overall good character, discipline in all aspects of life, family oriented, masculine, and an overall healthy mindset towards women is what’s important to me.

He needs to be able to take care of his health as well.
I don’t do fat men who think they can get a fit woman.

Super attracted to blue collar type of guys who always work hard. As I said discipline is super attractive to me.
Especially since I’ve met and seen examples of men like that… so therefore theyre out there.
 
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A dream woman would be a woman that ticks all of his boxes. Men meet beautiful women everyday.
When men use the term “dream women” it’s always purely physical, just like xuural cayn.
We ? It’s you who attacked me sir. I have nothing against you lol

And money to me isn’t everything. I didn’t mean to come off that way. There are men with money who think they can do whatever they want, no substance, no character, and I don’t care for those types.

Its like women who are only beautiful but don’t have nothing else going for them and awful personality and whatnot.

Physical attraction is important but overall good character, discipline in all aspects of life, family oriented, masculine, and an overall healthy mindset towards women is what’s important to me.

He needs to be able to take care of his health as well.
I don’t do fat men who think they can get a fit woman.

Super attracted to blue collar type of guys who always work hard. As I said discipline is super attractive to me.
Especially since I’ve met and seen examples of men like that… so therefore theyre out there.
It was a misunderstanding on your part, read my full post and you’ll see.

but as for this post I must say you’re an interesting woman Amina.
 
When men use the term “dream women” it’s always purely physical, just like xuural cayn.

It was a misunderstanding on your part, read my full post and you’ll see.

but as for this post I must say you’re an interesting woman Amina.
You called me a pick me … for me simply stating .. not all women hate and bash their ex husbands …….. and I wish mine well.

Where was the misunderstanding on my part when you verbally attacked me lmaooo ? And used that lame ass pic.

Anways it’s all good.
And what’s interesting about me ? What I liked in a man ?
Blue collar hard working family orientated men are fine af.
 
You called me a pick me … for me simply stating .. not all women hate and bash their ex husbands …….. and I wish mine well.

Where was the misunderstanding on my part when you verbally attacked me lmaooo ? And used that lame ass pic.

Anways it’s all good.
And what’s interesting about me ? What I liked in a man ?
Blue collar hard working family orientated men are fine af.
Physical attraction,health conscious, family oriented, masculine, disciplined and hardworking.

those are great qualities for a man to have.

so what do you have to offer a man with such qualities?

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When men use the term “dream women” it’s always purely physical
tbh it depends on which type of man u are talking about, if it s a young immature boy then sure it will probably be purely physical, iff its men talking about which woman they would sleep with yh sure
but if it s grown man looking for a serious women, and having a serious conversation, a dream woman would not just be purely physical, she would bring other things to the table that improve his life quality, most pretty girls are a headache anyways and the older u get u will realise this, a dream women will not be a pretty pain in the a**
 
just like xuural cayn.
tbh xuurul cayn are not purely physical they are also perfect in character which is another appeal of them, as u get more mature u care less about the physical aspect and more about the actual character. Thats why they are called purified spouses as they are purified both physically and spiritually from all kinds of bad characteristics and stuff
 
tbh it depends on which type of man u are talking about, if it s a young immature boy then sure it will probably be purely physical, iff its men talking about which woman they would sleep with yh sure
but if it s grown man looking for a serious women, and having a serious conversation, a dream woman would not just be purely physical, she would bring other things to the table that improve his life quality, most pretty girls are a headache anyways and the older u get u will realise this, a dream women will not be a pretty pain in the a**
but such a man would never use the term dream women, to describe the perfect woman. He would use terms like great, lovely or wonderful. Not dream.

tbh xuurul cayn are not purely physical they are also perfect in character which is another appeal of them, as u get more mature u care less about the physical aspect and more about the actual character. Thats why they are called purified spouses as they are purified both physically and spiritually from all kinds of bad characteristics and stuff
True but what do we as men really remember the most about xuural cayn their beauty of course.
 
I do
Physical attraction,health conscious, family oriented, masculine, disciplined and hardworking.

those are great qualities for a man to have.

so what do you have to offer a man with such qualities?

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I don’t answer those type of questions to men I don’t know since men no matter what will get triggered by the answer.

I know my good qualities and wish to improve on any negative ones InshaAllah. Is all I can say sir.
But what I will say is that traditional men should go for traditional women, and non traditional modern men with this new age mindset should go for a modern woman.
 
I do

I don’t answer those type of questions to men I don’t know since men no matter what will get triggered by the answer.

I know my good qualities and wish to improve on any negative ones InshaAllah. Is all I can say sir.
But what I will say is that traditional men should go for traditional women, and non traditional modern men with this new age mindset should go for a modern woman.
That’s the excuse your going with? Ok.
 
Lol what do you mean? I know if somali women are like ethiopian women, they cook and help out in the house. growing up, i would see my female cousins cook all the time, and if we men tried to get in the kitchen, they'd kick us out lol
Every dollar or birr counts.

Dont tell me you have never dated an anchi or an abaaya.

So when a lady asks a date you tell her its xaraam ukhti.
 
Every dollar or birr counts.

Dont tell me you have never dated an anchi or an abaaya.

So when a lady asks a date you tell her its xaraam ukhti.


No, I have never dated bro.
Not because I'm a good Muslim, that's for Allah to judge, but because I don't wanna risk even a minute in Jahannam, for anything.
Fasting a lot helps too, you'll have almost no desires bro.
What's an abaaya anyway?
 
No, I have never dated bro.
Not because I'm a good Muslim, that's for Allah to judge, but because I don't wanna risk even a minute in Jahannam, for anything.
Fasting a lot helps too, you'll have almost no desires bro.
What's an abaaya anyway?
By the way the way you talk youbarr not a young man are you married?
Abbayo is somali version anchi.
 
By the way the way you talk youbarr not a young man are you married?
Abbayo is somali version anchi.

I'm 32 years old, so yeah, I'm old. No, I am not married.
Ah ok. I did like one somali sister, but her brother and I, who were once friends, had some disagreements, so it didn't work out. Her father, Allah yarhamu, and my father Allah yarhamu, were best friends too. Their family is from the Tunni Somali clan. Not sure if that's a big clan or not?? I think Tunni is Rahanweyn? I don't know.
 
Can I ask … a girl you genuinely care for and like … you’ll make her pay in the beginning of the courtship ?

And don’t get me wrong ! I don’t think men should be taking random women to expensive ass restaurants just to be expected to pay and probably never hear from her ever again. That’s truly simp behaviour and I’ve seen it happen Miskeen.

I’m just saying a woman you are taking seriously may be turned off that she’s made to pay for everything in the courting process. And maybe some don’t care and prefer it.
I hope I made sense.
Yes I already did make her pay her half when we were first going out and it was my wife that insisted on it.A woman who demands that a man should pay for her time with him is a red flag. Either the woman is a bum who couldn't get her life together which is why she has no money or she's a gold-digger.It's not the year 1200 AD...you should have enough money for a good meal for yourself or to go out and do other things
 
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