Should a man always pay for dates?

Girl stop it. Any man that thinks you’re using him over a dinner you could pay 5 times over without having to endure his presence isn’t the type of man you want to be with. Men that think that way, scream cheap!


You're just an old fashion. So perhaps you should understand that nowadays younger people do it differently. The woman should contribute - if she is working and has the means to do so - during the time the two people are talking, meeting in restaurants, and seeing each other.

If she doesn't have the means to do so, she should let the guy know that she won't be able to contribute due to her lack of jobs or saved money.

The era of men paying for everything is over.
 
“You're just an old fashion. So perhaps you should understand that nowadays younger people do it differently. The woman should contribute - if she is working and has the means to do so - during the time the two people are talking, meeting in restaurants, and seeing each other”
If she doesn't have the means to do so, she should let the guy know that she won't be able to contribute due to her lack of jobs or saved money.

The era of men paying for everything is over.
No, it isn’t because relationships are still traditional. Women still do 80% of all cooking and cleaning despite also paying as well. Actual studies/statistics show this. Gender roles within marriages haven’t ended, but women are the ones being told to pay and still look after the home which is simply taking advantage. Biologically, it doesn’t even make sense as women get pregnant. How do you know this man will look after you when you’re at your most vulnerable if he has that mentality?

Within Somalis, men still expect a woman to be domestic upon marriage. As a woman you will still do most of the cooking and cleaning, birthing (obviously) primary caregiver roles ect.

Hence as a man, why would you not pay? Also, is Mehr old fashioned? Is being the provider old fashioned?

Also, take into account who is courting who? As a man if you invite a man out and you’re the one that is courting, how can you expect her to pay? If you’re telling me the younger generations are now courting the men, then you may have a slight point but they don’t. The vast majority of women do not ask out men.

Also, I’m younger than you. I’m in my late 20s born in the West and raised here. You’re definitely born and raised back home and think this is ‘lbaax’.
 
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“You're just an old fashion. So perhaps you should understand that nowadays younger people do it differently. The woman should contribute - if she is working and has the means to do so - during the time the two people are talking, meeting in restaurants, and seeing each other”

No, it isn’t because relationships are still traditional. Women still do 80% of all cooking and cleaning despite also paying as well. Actual studies/statistics show this. Gender roles within marriages haven’t ended, but women are the ones being told to pay and still look after the home which is simply taking advantage. Biologically, it doesn’t even make sense as women get pregnant. How do you know this man will look after you when you’re at your most vulnerable if he has that mentality?

In the West, there are no relationships which are traditional here. Most of the people in this thread were either born or raised in the West. That means their courtship is how it is done in the West. And men and women contribute to both courtship and marriage equally.

Within Somalia, men still expect a woman to be domestic upon marriage. As a woman you will still do most of the cooking and cleaning, birthing (obviously) primary caregiver roles ect.

The OP is not in Somalia. So referring to how it is done back home is irrelevant here. That is why I told you to stop misinforming people.

Hence as a man, why would you not pay? Also, Mehr old fashioned? Is being the provider old fashioned?

Also, take into account who is courting who? As a man if you invite a man out and you’re the one that is courting, how can you expect her to pay? If you’re telling me the younger generations are now courting the men, then you may have a slight point but they don’t.

Man paying is not issue here. It is the woman's contribution that we're discussing here. Since both men and women are going to schools and working in the West nowadays, the bills should be evenly divided. The guy may pay for the first time, but the woman should definitely chimp in the second or the third time that they meet out in restaurants or in other places.

And it is actually good for her. The man would think this is a woman who would bring in her resources into the marriage and she would do it out of a concern for the marriage and family.

Also, I’m younger than you. I’m in my late 20s born in the West and raised here. You’re definitely born and raised back home and think this is ‘lbaax’.

:dead: Please sis. There is nothing wrong to admit where you were born or raised, and it is irrelevant here. You just don't want to bring an old-fashioned style of courtship to 21st century of dating. Please! Get on with time, sis. There is a hardly a woman in the West who would just go out with a guy while he pays for everything. She would feel insecure and actually demeaning to herself. Most of the Western women actually view that a certain type of women only do that, and there is definitely a term for it.
 
In the West, there are no relationships which are traditional here. Most of the people in this thread were either born or raised in the West. That means their courtship is how it is done in the West. And men and women contribute to both courtship and marriage equally.
Saxib, actual studies and statistics shows women still do the bulk of cooking,cleaning and child rearing. What on earth are you talking about? Also, we’re Somali. Do you not leave your house or have married friends? Every mother I know does the cooking and cleaning, even if they work. What are you basing this on?
The OP is not in Somalia. So referring to how it is done back home is irrelevant here. That is why I told you to stop misinforming people.
I am talking about amongst Somali couples. Girls still do the cooking and cleaning. Most of us where raised by our mothers teaching us. The only difference is that we expect our husbands to help out from time to time.
Man paying is not issue here. It is the woman's contribution that we're discussing here. Since both men and women are going to schools and working in the West nowadays, the bills should be evenly divided. The guy may pay for the first time, but the woman should definitely chimp in the second or the third time that they meet out in restaurants or in other places.
What about in a relationship? You didn’t answer by question. Does the women do the cooking cleaning, birthing, breastfeeding ect AND pay?
And it is actually good for her. The man would think this is a woman who would bring in her resources into the marriage and she would do it out of a concern for the marriage and family.



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No, only cheap men think like that. I recently got married and most of my friends are either just married or in the process. Believe me most normal Faraxs don’t talk the way you do. You listen to losers like Xaliye and think you’re Ibaax



Please sis. There is nothing wrong to admit where you were born or raised, and it is irrelevant here. You just don't want to bring an old-fashioned style of courtship to 21st century of dating. Please! Get on with time, sis. There is a hardly a woman in the West who would just go out with a guy while he pays for everything. She would feel insecure and actually demeaning to herself. Most of the Western women actually view that a certain type of women only do that, and there is definitely a term for it.


Saxib, we’re Somali. The future husband pays us Mehr and he pays for the wedding, gold and honeymoon. That is the norm. stop listening to Xaliye.

So, a woman wanting a man to provide for her is a dh1lo? Are you okay walal? I’ve never heard such nonsense LOOOL.

You are one made odey lol.
 
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Saxib, actual studies and statistics shows women still do the bulk of cooking,cleaning and child rearing. What on earth are you talking about? Also, we’re Somali. Do you not leave your house or have married friends? Every mother I know does the cooking and cleaning, evening if they work. What are you basing this on?

I am talking about amongst Somali couples. Girls still do the cooking and cleaning. Most of us where raised by our mothers teaching us. The only difference is that we expect our husbands to help out from time to time.

What about in a relationship? You didn’t answer by question. Does the women do the cooking cleaning, birthing, breastfeeding ect AND pay?

No, only cheap men think like that. I recently got married and most of my friends are either just married or in the process. Believe me most normal Faraxs don’t talk the way you do. You listen to losers like Xaliye and think you’re Ibaax



Please sis. There is nothing wrong to admit where you were born or raised, and it is irrelevant here. You just don't want to bring an old-fashioned style of courtship to 21st century of dating. Please! Get on with time, sis. There is a hardly a woman in the West who would just go out with a guy while he pays for everything. She would feel insecure and actually demeaning to herself. Most of the Western women actually view that a certain type of women only do that, and there is definitely a term for it.


Saxib, we’re Somali. The future husband pays us Mehr and he pays for the wedding, gold and honeymoon. That is the norm. stop listening to Xaliye.

So, a woman wanting a man to provide for her is a dh1lo? Are you okay walal? I’ve never heard such nonsense LOOOL.

You are one made odey lol.
You're writing paragraphs but women always ask to go half on dates these days ...they want to be independent. I havent paid for a full date since I was 19
 
Men don't rear children, we're not out here raising the kids equally sxb, I think that's what Angelina is trying to say.
I can’t believe this man thinks men and women contribute to marriages equally. At this point this man wants to simply take advantage of women Wallahi.

Roorigeg, do you get pregnant, have money sickness, give birth, breastfeed, are the primary care giver of babies which is essentially Motherhood?

Wallahi, there sexism is getting to point in which they’re turning into those transgender apologist who now claim men and women are 100% the same and are of equal strength and that men give birth as well ect. That is the shakey grounds these weirdos are walking on


@Roorigeg here are the studies and even real life attests to this:

We already know that after decades of research, women do significantly more housework and childcare than men — so much so that women who are employed full-time are often said to be working a “double shift.”



ps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/

 
What kind of women do you d

You're writing paragraphs but women always ask to go half on dates these days ...they want to be independent. I havent paid for a full date since I was 19
You date cadaan feminists mate. Also, you’re a degenerate.

I don’t care about your sample size as it has nothing to do with the Somali community in the West.
 
I can’t believe this man thinks men and women contribute to marriages equally. At this point this man wants to simply take advantage of women Wallahi.

Roorigeg, do you get pregnant, have money sickness, give birth, breastfeed, are the primary care giver of babies which is essentially Motherhood?

Wallahi, there sexism is getting to point in which they’re turning into those transgender apologist who now claim men and women are 100% the same and are of equal strength and that men give birth as well ect. That is the shakey grounds these weirdos are walking on


@Roorigeg here are the studies and even real life attests to this:

We already know that after decades of research, women do significantly more housework and childcare than men — so much so that women who are employed full-time are often said to be working a “double shift.”



ps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/


Yeah, I can't see what he's getting at when Somali, hell Muslim men in general, don't take care of the children, like at all. I was once asked to take care of my newborn niece one afternoon and it physically exhausted me, and that was with my younger sisters help, I couldn't imagine years of going through that.

Mothers go through hell, give me a 9-5 anytime.
 
Yeah, I can't see what he's getting at when Somali, hell Muslim men in general, don't take care of the children, like at all. I was once asked to take care of my newborn niece one afternoon and it physically exhausted me, and that was with my younger sisters help, I couldn't imagine years of going through that.

Mothers go through hell, give me a 9-5 anytime.
That is motherhood, but Roorigeg wants women to pay up if not they’re dh1los. Now that is manipulative shit if I’ve ever heard it.


Have you seen the thread when ‘Western’Somali men were making excuses about not helping their spouses? @Roorigeg check out that thread. Real life, statistics and even Sspot proves you wrong mate.
 

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You date cadaan feminists mate. Also, you’re a degenerate.

I don’t care about your sample size as it has nothing to do with the Somali community in the West.
the post says women not somalian women....second of all none of my friends exclusively date somalian women...we dont discriminate its 2022 nayaa
 
That is motherhood, but Roorigeg wants women to pay up if not they’re dh1los. Now that is manipulative shit if I’ve ever heard it.


Have you seen the thread when ‘Western’Somali men were making excuses about not helping their spouses? @Roorigeg check out that thread. Real life, statistics and even Sspot proves you wrong mate.

A lot of dudes don't care about the status or direction of their home, they leave everything to the wife and get by doing the bare minimum, then they wonder why their partner ends up resenting them and talks of the dreaded D-word comes up.
 
A lot of dudes don't care about the status or direction of their home, they leave everything to the wife and get by doing the bare minimum, then they wonder why their partner ends up resenting them and talks of the dreaded D-word comes up.


Just shut up, weirdo. Aren't you the fella who was advocating for Somali men to be uncircumcised? :gucciwhat::holeup:

You're either woman hiding behind a man's nick or one hella of a "khaniis" boy. Hell no way that a Somali man thinks about other men's 'ceeb' and then tells them to be "buuryaqab". You have no shame. :mindblown:

Why even discuss courtship between men and women when you're fixated on discussing men's ceeb and how they shouldn't be circumcised? All of the weirdos have found a home in the Internet.

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That is motherhood, but Roorigeg wants women to pay up if not they’re dh1los. Now that is manipulative shit if I’ve ever heard it.

I never use the word "dh1los". Why are you accusing me of something that I haven't stated? I was referring to women who take advantage of women such as "gold diggers". That is the phrase that I was referring to.

Have you seen the thread when ‘Western’Somali men were making excuses about not helping their spouses? @Roorigeg check out that thread. Real life, statistics and even Sspot proves you wrong mate.

You're just beating the bushes. Just admit, your dating style is so 20th century that you haven't caught with the changing times. All of the women that I dated before marriage paid their fare share. Some of them were Somali women, some of them cadaan, North African, Lebanese, and Iranian. These young women, especially cadaan and Somali women, wanted to pay after the first meeting.


If anything can be taken from your repeated fixation on only men should pay during the courtship, that is that you're so old-fashioned that you're still part of the old world. Or it is possible that you were dating older men before you got married. So you were either dealing with "sugar-daddies" or you're part of the 20th century of dating. And that brings me to my next point.

You told us of all the dating sites, you like Muzzmatch the most. Gee, someone in UK needs to go all the way to Muzzmatch to find a hubby? Give me a break. :deadrose: Please stop giving advice on marriage and courtship to Somalis here. While the largest Somali diaspora is in UK, you had to go all the way to Muzzmatch to meet a guy. I am pretty sure that fella aint a Somali. So the buck stops right there. No Somali I know met their spouses through dating sites. I don't know why you're stressing about getting your point being the norm; you're really an anomaly here.

Going to dating sites to meet a guy and want to give marriage advice? :heh: That is so un-Somali. :ftw9nwa::ftw9nwa::ftw9nwa:
 
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I never use the word "dh1los". Why are you accusing me of something that I haven't stated? I was referring to women who take advantage of women such as "gold diggers". That is the phrase that I was referring to.
If a woman wanted to dig for gold, she'll go for a rich one. Not a low class man who complains about simple dinners.
You're just beating the bushes. Just admit, your dating style is so 20th century that you haven't caught with the changing times. All of the women that I dated before marriage paid their fare share. Some of them were Somali women, some of them cadaan, North African, Lebanese, and Iranian. These young women, especially cadaan and Somali women, wanted to pay after the first meeting.
I never asked for your promiscuous dating history. It seems to me the reason why you dated so many is because you kept on getting dumped. Let me give you a hint, most women aren't going go give a man that makes them pay a chance, it makes you look cheap. Create a poll, here or any other form of social media. Talk to the women in your family to see if they like it if a guy provides for them or not.

If anything can be taken from your repeated fixation on only men should pay during the courtship, that is that you're so old-fashioned that you're still part of the old world. Or it is possible that you were dating older men before you got married. So you were either dealing with "sugar-daddies" or you're part of the 20th century of dating. And that brings to my next point.
Most young Faraxs who haven't been polluted by Xaliyo and Andrew Tate do. Look at this very thread most said they would, especially if they like the girl. What on earth are you talking about.

Genuine question, do you think Mehr and the man paying for the aroos is out dated?
You told us of all the dating sites, you like Muzzmaatch the most. Gee, someone in UK needs to go all the way to Muzzmatch? Give me a break. Please stop giving advice on marriage and courtship to Somalis here. While the largest Somali diaspora is in UK, you had to go all the way to Muzzmatch to meet a guy. I am pretty sure that fella is aint a Somali.
Again, we've had the conversation. If my husband isnt Somali, then you're not Somali as well. You too were accused of being an ajnabi for sticking up for madows.
So the buck stops right there. No Somali I know met their husbands through dating sites. I don't know why you're stressing about getting your point about the norm; you're really an anomaly here.
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Going to dating sites to meet a guy and want to give marriage advice? :heh: That is so un-Somali.
 
I never use the word "dh1los". Why are you accusing me of something that I haven't stated? I was referring to women who take advantage of women such as "gold diggers". That is the phrase that I was referring to.



You're just beating the bushes. Just admit, your dating style is so 20th century that you haven't caught with the changing times. All of the women that I dated before marriage paid their fare share. Some of them were Somali women, some of them cadaan, North African, Lebanese, and Iranian. These young women, especially cadaan and Somali women, wanted to pay after the first meeting.


If anything can be taken from your repeated fixation on only men should pay during the courtship, that is that you're so old-fashioned that you're still part of the old world. Or it is possible that you were dating older men before you got married. So you were either dealing with "sugar-daddies" or you're part of the 20th century of dating. And that brings me to my next point.

You told us of all the dating sites, you like Muzzmatch the most. Gee, someone in UK needs to go all the way to Muzzmatch to find a hubby? Give me a break. :deadrose: Please stop giving advice on marriage and courtship to Somalis here. While the largest Somali diaspora is in UK, you had to go all the way to Muzzmatch to meet a guy. I am pretty sure that fella aint a Somali. So the buck stops right there. No Somali I know met their spouses through dating sites. I don't know why you're stressing about getting your point being the norm; you're really an anomaly here.

Going to dating sites to meet a guy and want to give marriage advice? :heh: That is so un-Somali. :ftw9nwa::ftw9nwa::ftw9nwa:
I agree to disagree with you, but you keep repeating points and attacking Angelina personally instead of defending your pov logically.
 

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Had a little debate about this with a friend. I have a more traditional view where I think a man should pay for most of the dates if not all. Like if it’s his birthday or something like that yea go ahead and treat him but I just think a guy should pay most of the time as a way to show his appreciation. My friend has a different view where she feels they should split the bill or he pays once she pays next time. She says that way she doesn’t feel like she “owes him anything”. And she feels like it’s more equal.

What do you think?


Farah--if a Xaliimo volunteer to pay for your dates-- run for the door.
 
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