Saying mashallah to Non-Muslims.

[Basra]

So let me get this straight... this is how we know for sure that the Quran is from a god:

1. The Quran tells stories about figures and characters from the old testament, combined with the fact that Arabs never knew how to write, therefore the Quran is from a god.

Huh, that's interesting. Not only because Arabs actually did have a writing system since at least the 4th century (It was Muhammad himself who was illiterate not Arabs as a whole), but because a society can still learn about the stories of the Jews and Christians from purely an oral tradition.

You know how this argument could be used in favour of the Quran being from a god? If the Quran was revealed to a group of people who had no means of knowing the Jewish and Christian stories like if the Inca in South America came up with Islam as opposed to Arabs.

2. The Quran says the Earth is round rather than flat, therefore the Quran is from a god.

The idea of the world being round goes as far back as 3rd century BC from a man living in Alexandria named Eratosthenes. Also, the Quran doesn't say the earth is round or even shaped like an ostrich egg (that is a modern interpretation with no tafsirs to support it). The Quran talks about the earth being made like a spread out carpet. Even prayer wouldn't make sense on a sphere-shaped planet.

A qiblah can only exist if the planet is flat, otherwise you aren't actually facing Mecca, but rather towards outer space.

3. The Quran civilized the Arabs, therefore it's from a god.

You could argue that Islam (Muhammad's wars) unified the Arabs, yes. The Arabs became civilized after conquering other already civilized peoples like the Persians and Romans and adopting their civilized lifestyles. Even still are you going to argue that because something led to civilization it's from a god? How many civilizations came to be that were polytheistic? Surely you don't also believe in their religions too.

Kafir

At the end of the day, We make choices. I make the choice of believing in God, the creator of our universe. You choose not to believe. To each his own.

 

[Kafir]

Kafir

At the end of the day, We make choices. I make the choice of believing in God, the creator of our universe. You choose not to believe. To each his own.

You don't choose to believe in statements. Evidence compels you to believe in things. Believing that Muhammad spoke to an angel shouldn't be a choice.

Do we choose to believe the Earth is round? Or is there enough compelling evidence that we just believe it.

If someone believes that Quran is from Allah, they must have evidence for it. If they didn't have that evidence, they wouldn't (at least they shouldn't) believe in it.

 

[MuslimManMe]

You don't choose to believe in statements. Evidence compels you to believe in things. Believing that Muhammad spoke to an angel shouldn't be a choice.

Do we choose to believe the Earth is round? Or is there enough compelling evidence that we just believe it.

If someone believes that Quran is from Allah, they must have evidence for it. If they didn't have that evidence, they wouldn't (at least they shouldn't) believe in it.

So why do you support khanis behavior despite the fact that it is clearly unsanitary and leads to destructive diseases for the plower and the plowed

Because you have sold your humanity for a curse and a few decades of enjoyment

 

[Kafir]

So why do you support khanis behavior despite the fact that it is clearly unsanitary and leads to destructive diseases for the plower and the plowed

Because you have sold your humanity for a curse and a few decades of enjoyment

What are you talking about? I'm talking about how we know the Quran is from Allah. Nothing more.

 

[MuslimManMe]

What are you talking about? I'm talking about how we know the Quran is from Allah. Nothing more.

So you believe it's sanitary for a man to put his gus in another man's bum?

 

[Kafir]

You said in your other posts that you want to turn everybody from islam and give them doubts.

Because believing in the story of Islam is irrational. Assuming the foundation of a person's belief in Islam is based on reason, they will have doubts planted in their minds from what I'm doing. They are perfectly free to try and tell me I'm wrong. In fact I encourage it.

I'm willing to change my mind in the face of evidence. Are you willing to say the same thing? Are you ever willing to not be a Muslim anymore?

 

[MuslimManMe]

Because believing in the story of Islam is irrational. Assuming the foundation of a person's belief in Islam is based on reason, they will have doubts planted in their minds from what I'm doing. They are perfectly free to try and tell me I'm wrong. In fact I encourage it.

I'm willing to change my mind in the face of evidence. Are you willing to say the same thing? Are you ever willing to not be a Muslim anymore?

Because believing in the story of Islam is irrational. Assuming the foundation of a person's belief in Islam is based on reason, they will have doubts planted in their minds from what I'm doing. They are perfectly free to try and tell me I'm wrong. In fact I encourage it.

I'm willing to change my mind in the face of evidence. Are you willing to say the same thing? Are you ever willing to not be a Muslim anymore?

Do uou believe we should let a 4 year old decide if he wants hormones to match his true "gender "

 

[Kafir]

Do uou believe we should let a 4 year old decide if he wants hormones to match his true "gender "

So you believe it's sanitary for a man to put his gus in another man's bum?

This tell me the Quran is from Allah how exactly? I'm indifferent to gay people. Not my business or problem if what they're doing to each other is sanitary or not. 4 year olds shouldn't be taking hormone therapy. They haven't even reached puberty yet.

 

[Basra]

This tell me the Quran is from Allah how exactly? I'm indifferent to gay people. Not my business or problem if what they're doing to each other is sanitary or not. 4 year olds shouldn't be taking hormone therapy. They haven't even reached puberty yet.

I am sorry i find this exchange hilarious

 

[Wardheere]

You don't choose to believe in statements. Evidence compels you to believe in things. Believing that Muhammad spoke to an angel shouldn't be a choice.

Do we choose to believe the Earth is round? Or is there enough compelling evidence that we just believe it.

If someone believes that Quran is from Allah, they must have evidence for it. If they didn't have that evidence, they wouldn't (at least they shouldn't) believe in it.

The evidence is your existence the earth the sun the moon the universe. The quran the prophets the stars. The pious people who believed and died on the truth the sahabah. Your soul etc. The rain the airm the earth quake the mountians. This is evidence for me.

Everybody can question even the obvious truth. There are millions of people who still believe the earth is flat. My friend a university graduate is one of them.

 

[Kafir]

The evidence is your existence the earth the sun the moon the universe. The quran the prophets the stars. The pious people who believed and died on the truth the sahabah. Your soul etc. The rain the airm the earth quake the mountians. This is evidence for me.

Everybody can question even the obvious truth. There are millions of people who still believe the earth is flat. My friend a university graduate is one of them.

The sun, the moon and the universe is evidence that the Quran is from Allah. I think you might be missing a couple of steps towards your conclusion. Also why is it evidence for Islam's god and not Krishna or Osiris or Xenu?

Then again I remember your arguments for Islam were the weakest from all the members on this website. You quoted a Quran verse saying the Quran was from Allah as your proof once.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/to-all-non-muslim-somalis.41315/page-2#post-1107091

 

[Basra]

Kafir

do u believe in the existence of Jiins????

 

[Kafir]

Kafir

do u believe in the existence of Jiins????

No, I don't. Do you believe in the existence of unicorns?

 

[MuslimManMe]

This tell me the Quran is from Allah how exactly? I'm indifferent to gay people. Not my business or problem if what they're doing to each other is sanitary or not. 4 year olds shouldn't be taking hormone therapy. They haven't even reached puberty yet.

Says who
why do you get to decide that puberty is the defining moment where they get to choose what to do what to do with their body

Who gave you the authority as to what should and shouldn't happen

Was it Kant? Was it JS Mills ? Was it Jock Young ?

Who was it you europhile

 

[Basra]

No, I don't. Do you believe in the existence of unicorns?

Kafir u lying to me. I think u do believe in the unseen world, u r afraid to say it aloud., i am sending u an a jiini friend

 

[MuslimManMe]

Once again europhile @Kafir
Is it sanitary for a man to put his gus in his colleagues bum

 

[Wardheere]

The sun, the moon and the universe is evidence that the Quran is from Allah. I think you might be missing a couple of steps towards your conclusion. Also why is it evidence for Islam's god and not Krishna or Osiris or Xenu?

Then again I remember your arguments for Islam were the weakest from all the members on this website. You quoted a Quran verse saying the Quran was from Allah as your proof once.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/to-all-non-muslim-somalis.41315/page-2#post-1107091

Ofcouse that is true. Find the osiri or krishna book laying claim that their book ia from God. Even the bible doesnot say that.

If Allah says this is from me I believe in it.

You on the hand kaadida kawayseesataa.

 

[Kafir]

Kafir u lying to me. I think u do believe in the unseen world, u r afraid to say it aloud., i am sending u an a jiini friend

Basra I don't believe in magical creatures. It's not a hard concept. I'm not a superstitious person. You are sending me a jiini friend? Is this like the experiment @MuslimManMe did with curses to try and get me to believe?

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/do-you-ever-reminisce.42292/page-4#post-1141162

 

[Kafir]

Ofcouse that is true. Find the osiri or krishna book laying claim that their book ia from God. Even the bible doesnot say that.

If Allah says this is from me I believe in it.

You on the hand kaadida kawayseesataa.

"If Allah says this is from me I believe in it."

Yes.....

This is the whole point of this. We're trying to figure out how to know the Quran is from Allah. The Quran saying it's from Allah isn't evidence.

 

[Wardheere]

The most famous somali non muslim accepts islam after 15 years. So kafir come back to your deen.