Random Puntland politics discussions

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

What does Deni/PL gain from your instability? South/central terrorism problem affects us also. Boowe, be honest and say kismaayo belongs to my clan and i want it.

Squatters saw Kismaayo after 1991 and lost their minds.
They're never going to get a port city

 

[Dues Ex Machina]

What does Deni/PL gain from your instability? South/central terrorism problem affects us also. Boowe, be honest and say kismaayo belongs to my clan and i want it.

That sort of deflection is only done when you aren't backed by the facts. Let's be real the JL issue is much larger than petty clan issues as you're trying to steer.

This is a regional issue and a national issue.

Let's start with why Deni is calling for the FGS to remove the Somali Army from Gedo, which happens to be within Somalia's jurisdiction? But doesn't call for the withdrawal of AMISOM in other parts of the country?

Deni has literally nothing to do with the region and lies outside of his FMS jurisdiction so what does he gain from such a thing?

And this is only further compounded by the fact that the people in region do not recognize madoobe as any sort of authority because he is clearly not. He can't even come to the region because he rigged the JL elections and thinks people will go along with it.

So the answer becomes, he is directly causing instability by being the only FMS leader to continually back Madoobe as well as trying to delay elections that were already agreed upon in Sept 17th.

The IC sees all this, so it's no wonder they came out today and said the electoral process will continue and lambasted the spoilers. The majority of Federal Member States are not supportive of Madoobe and have not called for Federal troops within a Somali territory.

I'm against madoobe for many reasons, but the most important one is he has a lot of blood on his hands which can't be reconciled whatsoever. I'll briefly list his background for those that might be unaware.

Madoobe: Shabab leader, Raskamboni militia leader, KDF governor the last 7 years with the sole purpose of forming a buffer state and being a spoiler to the FGS.

 

[Removed]

can someone explain to me why SNA being in a Somalia city/region is controversial? Isn’t their job to protect citizens no matter where they reside. I’m confused on this one

Farmajo created and sponsored a clan militia(Moalimu) then failed in fighting Madoobe so he recognized him as president then after that went back to sponsoring the same illegal militia by use of the SNA again.

How can Madoobe realistically hold elections in a place he and his troops dont hold and where his representative Janan was kicked out of. How can you call two seperate entities the Jubbaland government and have a militia fabricating statements.

Im not going to explain things anymore these guys are purposefully thick in the head when it comes to anything anti-Farmajo god damn communists everything has to be by the bullet

 

[Ferrari]

I expect the dark odays from gedo to make another video threatening deni and PL from their slums.
it's already tough being marehan, now imagine how much tougher it'll get after elections and midget farmaajo is gone.

 

[convincation]

Its a process to complete separation inshallah. Step by step

Your a separatist? What would you gain from separation?

 

[FBIsomalia]

@DR OSMAN enjoy.

 

[DR OSMAN]

MADAXWEYNE DENI OO KORMEERAY DHISME LAGU KORDHIYAY BANKIGA DHEXE EE PUNTLAND

Madaxweynaha Dowladda Puntland Siciid Cabdullaahi Deni, ayaa maanta kormeeray dhismaha cusub ee lagu kordhinayo Bangiga dhexe ee Dowladda.

Qoraal laga soo saaray Madaxtooyada, ayaa lagu sheegay in Madaxweynuhu, uu kormeeray qeybaha kala duwan ee uu ka kooban yahay dhismaha cusub ee Bangiga, kuwaasi oo ka kooban xafiisyo, si casri ah loo dhisayo, iyo xarunta Kaydka Bangiga, ka dibna uu warbixin ka dhegaystay Mas’uuliyiinta Bangiga Dhexe ee halkaasi kusoo dhoweeyay.

Sidoo kale, Qoraalka waxa lagu sheegay, in dhismaha cusub ee lagu darayo Bangiga Dhexe ee Puntland ay dhammaan lacagtiisa bixisay Dowladda Puntland, si kor loogu qaado adeegga dowladdnimo ee loo hayo bulshada, lana tayeeyo oo la horumariyo dhaqaalaha dalka.

PUNTLAND POST

 

[DR OSMAN]

@kickz this is your home kiddo, if u can't stand this place, u won't have much love for another place, as charity starts home not somewhere else. I know it disturbs you seeing this because u never enter a PL topic so it means there is 'serious majerten guilt' in you for the south which I have discussed on a pod-cast about this 'darod guilt' which quite common among us and responsible for our differences actually

 

[DR OSMAN]

@kickz your people are the best people in Somalia when measured and evidence is looked at and not just words.

1. We abadoned our homelands and built another 'region' out of somalinimo love, I've yet to see this ever done vice versa for us from any clan, except destruction or political sabotage is the only thing we expect from south-north, we already know their 'strategem' and hence stunned at their time waste

2. We came back again after we left them to their own devices in 91-2004, this is the 'era' I can vouch for as your still a small kid bro, I am older then you and your elder well I am 35 but I ain't 20 and every generation needs to knowledge transfer so u don't repeat it or waste time by listening to 'experience'. I will listen to my 'superior' like I do at work niyahow based on 'experience' u need to learn this culture of excellence. Every generation listens to his older generation to save him the hassles of what has been tried. @Dues Ex Machete is a 20 year old kid sxb and if I didn't save him from his miscalculated thinking thru being his 'senior' he wud of just rehashed the same shit for another 100 years, 'experience and seniority' are western customs and it's also Somali custom, USE IT AT ALL TIMES to get head-start in life. I love listening to syl generation-siyad generation-burbur generation which is me-while your the post burbur generataion which is you and DUES. I can tell u about the burbur in somalia as I wasnt involved and it was handed to me kiddo, i was there in mogadishu in 98 when no somali was around dude and all in camps, I came to australia in the 80s bro way before you guys and thats why i returned to somalia earlier so i meet my grandparents ok who lived in hamar. I know these ppl bro, ask me anything u need and I will give u the honest facts of that era.

 

[kickz]

@kickz this is your home kiddo, if u can't stand this place, u won't have much love for another place, as charity starts home not somewhere else. I know it disturbs you seeing this because u never enter a PL topic so it means there is 'serious majerten guilt' in you for the south which I have discussed on a pod-cast about this 'darod guilt' which quite common among us and responsible for our differences actually

Like I said I deal with National politics, you guys can cover the rest. Just like in the US I only pay attention to National politics vs local state stuff.

 

[Libaax-Joore]

@kickz is sheegato

 

[Libaax-Joore]

 

[repo]

I like the building design. More of those and less of the silver boxes.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@kickz is sheegato

Hal meel ayay habar gedir ka maqan yihin dalka waa meel 'nabad' taalo lama tusin karo ama inu si faafo niyahow, harantasi bay raban in lagu si jiro iyo wax kasto oo dawladnimo keeni karo waa mucurad iyo qabiil kasto bay 'sheeko' uu aqriyan sida 'isaaq iyo irir' iyo hawiye iyo hag iyo xitaa ogaden wa sacad, fiqihini iyo dhulbahante, federalka way ku jiran, centralka way ku jiran, islamiyinta way ku jiran iyo noocyadisa kala duwan, central way ku jiran waba dad ku heeshiyay meel kasto somali heeshish ka gaadhi karan wa inaan dhex galna oo 'dagaal ama muran laga kiciya' si ay dagaalku uu si dheerado oo aduunka iskaga tago meeshani sida unsomki 93.

 

[DR OSMAN]

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Niyahow meel aysan HG gacan kula dhex jirin weli ma arag, waa dad ku heeshiya 'isbalaariya' oo meel kasto somali isku timado ama nabad dhow dahay bal 'wax uun kiciya' ama 'qabil ama diin ama siyasad' waxay doonto ha noqote lakin inaysan heeshinin bay wacad ku mareen. Isaaq wa shaqaale dhinac kale uu rogmeen iyaga wata mar walbo oo hawlo uu isticmalo dhinaca waqoyiga kama cabsi gaban sida 1960 markay kala daateen abdillahi issa dharbaxo ayuu ku dhuftay cigaal halka fariso buu yiri ina gumeed, 30ki kursi ee waqoyi ayuu keeni wayaay dee si ay irirismkasi uu hirgasho ee usp/snl according to my father anyways that his 'analysis' based on his time period iyo wixi loo sheegay.

And if u look at it today it does hold some merit ama way ku muuqata sida prime minister uu kursiga waqoyi gacanta ku dhiigay oo isaaq waxba la waydin oo la hayste weeye. Darod bay ku aqriyan isaaq, hawiye darod bay uu sheegan, islamiyiinta waxay uu sheegan adiguna cid walbo dawlad uu eekanayso bal soo tur, halka siyasinta gudaheeda waxay faristan cairo ama sal-balaar iyo dadka aminsan waa egypt iyo brotherhoodka. War waxani 'dhab' kama aha niyahow xitaa salbalaar wuxu ahaa jambal niyahow si aysan waxba uu hirgalin, islam wa jambal, federal/central wa jambal, irir iyo ha wa jambal, xitaa haday 'awood' raban niyaahow oo dawladnimo dhab ka tahay wala siin laha walle lakin ma raban dawlad way ka 'go'an gaadheen' waqti hore marka waa in PL ay siyasadu dhinac kale uu rogta niyahow oo hybrib system laga hadla sida china iyo hong kong oo iyagu ha noqdeen mamulka ay doonayan si loo tusiyo aduunka meeshay dalka ka socon la'dahay iyo beelaha ay yihin iyo wadamada taageersan oo gacan ku leh in meeshani aysan khatar mustaqbal uu noqon uae-saudi hadu islamiyinta la wareegan oo egypt iyo turkey iyo qatar ka amar qaatan iyagu danahasi mooye wax kale ay uu jogan somalia ma jiro runti. If we did hybrid system waxaa dhici laha in la badbadiyo pl/jl iyo dhulalkeena halka 'waqoyi' la yirahdo meeshu 'heeshish' ma aha sida 1960ki markay usp/snl uu kala jabeen iyo aduunka loo tusiyo wa dad isku racay mowqiif dhow sida somali neceb iyo taasi dawlad laguma dhisi kare ama wadamada mowqiif dhow isku racay iyaga is cunay akhirki kkkkkkk south sudan wa tusaale, eritrea iyo tplf wa tusaale, somalia oo isku racday ethiopia wa tusaale, layskuma raci karo sxb 'my enemy is your enemy' waa 'siyasad dhow' taas oo dawlad laguma dhisi karo waxaa dhacayso in akhirki in idinku is dishan marku cadowga meesha ka baxo ama aad ku jabtan ileen heeshish kale idin dhexayso ma jiree kkkkk ee dawladasi ayaa laysku dilaya iyo kuwi aad rabteen inaad 'dishan' iyaguna way ku tashanayan sidi ethiopia iyo somalia ku samaysee ileen idinka soo fara gashateen markeedi hore kkkkk, adiguna wa lagu soo fara gelinaya, waa iska caadi, never set a 'trend' niyahow, meeshani qof walbo aad tabatid waa ku taban, marka ha isku taban and mind your own business.

But hybrib two system one nation sida hong kong iyo china hadan qaadano iyagay taabanaysa 'dawlad la'anta' anaguna meelaha ka baxsan oo dawlado leh baan noqonayna iyo somalia waxan ka noqonayna 'ceremonial member' iyaguna waxay noqonayan 'federal member states' ama mamulo hos tago villa somalia sida banadir oo kale, markasi aduunka way oglanaysa si aysan 20 sano oo kale lays jidjidin oo qof walbo wuxu rabo haloo sameeyo laga reebo 'islamiyiinta' oo runti khatar ku aha wadamada deriska iyo arabka wa in iyagu meesha laga saara aduunka bay bandhow ka yihin like iran

 

[FBIsomalia]

Allhamdulla we have real government not like jeegaan & southies.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@kickz @Jablibax he is a kid bro only 20 years old and is taught by nationalist-centralist that there is 'siyad barre govt' coming back in Somalia especially after 'civil war' which very unlikely but HG is using him and he doesn't know it since he has no experience of the past to connect the 'trend' of different clan, he takes everything in good faith and why we don't want young kids like this in anywhere of power, they need 'real experience' of different 'time eras' and if they don't at least 'advisors' from each time era of Somalia like syl-siyad-burbur generation-postburbur(terrorists). The burbur generation were 'moryan' and the moryan generation created 'terrorist' post burbur generation.

Do u see where this shit is going? it's a cycle towards 'hell' niyahow, tommorow when islamiyinta is over, the next project could be 'secularism' and they will find nations to destabilize somalia for it even tho i believe in secular principles lakin HG hadu wato, Islamiyin baan noqon laha because ninkani tarikhdisa illa manta bay ka muuqata meel kasto uu galo khayr kama soo baxdo even abdiqasim ayay diideen niyahow 2000ki, war meel ay dacad uu yihin ma jirto ma garatee niyahow? iyagu waxay raban keliya 'stalemate' inu si socodo oo meesha laga quusto si uu hirgalo dawlad la'an iyo 91 oo somali dhan ku noolato waqtigi burburka ah iyo inaysan calamka ka tirsananin kkkkk.

No joke @Karim u know I am secularist by true qadiyad lakin hadu habar gedir mashrucasi illa yimado, waan ka cararaya to islamiyin no joke as they wud possibly be the 'halal party' and secular one haram because HG meel uu joggo khayr kama soo baxayso even tho i believe in secular but i know his 'clan' has different motives and u should do the same niyahow do not join their islamist parties it's all 'smokescreens' for 'cairo' salbalaar nation in egypt where they back hag only and the reason is they know hag aint resurrecting somalia kkk

 

[Finesse]

Like I said I deal with National politics, you guys can cover the rest. Just like in the US I only pay attention to National politics vs local state stuff.

National politics is made up of federal states, so this is a bad excuse. Just admit you are not a Puntite and save yourself the bad deeds.

 

[FBIsomalia]

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Karim u know i genuinely believe in 'xoriyada' niyahow as the supreme law, wax ka saareeyo xoriyada ma jirto not even allah laws in my eyes as you need to be free person first and foremost before anything and religion is merely a choice in my world view. U know I truly believe in that, but wud I sit with a HG who is starting to see secular winds blow thru uae-sudan and he sees this is workable mashruc he will join but i will walk away immediately and warn you iskaga jira waa ki weeye kkkkk and u shud do the same with your islamists and go back to the middle ground of SSDF as the least worst option now