Oromo self hater claims to be habesha

[Factz]

First genetics testing rules out that myth and Issaqs don't believe it themselves and the Myth says shes wasn't Oromo but Tigray.... are Tigray Oromos now ?

post the proof then, do not just talk, at least i brought historical references,
and since when does tigray border somalis at all
it's logical the more ancient oromo race would father other races in the horn, many historians propose this theory and concur on it

Firstly, I'm Isaaq and DNA test proves it's a myth. Secondly, our myth doesn't say Oromo or Tigray lol. Isaaq married two wives which were Dir and Harari. I'm from the Habar Magaadle branch and according to the myth, our mother was Dir while Habar Habuusheed mother was Harari.

Now, I told you this before Somalis are ancient people who are east Cushitic that had a common ancestor with Oromos, Afars, Sidamos, Hadiye and many more. We didn't come from each other so stop spreading false rumours. We northern Somalis began bordering you Oromos in the 16th century after your expansion. We never knew your existence until the 16th century.

 

[Von]

post the proof then, do not just talk, at least i brought historical references,
and since when does tigray border somalis at all
it's logical the more ancient oromo race would father other races in the horn, many historians propose this theory and concur on it

https://books.google.com/books?id=yoMBQCr4LysC&redir_esc=y
The myth says He had 8 kids with a dir and Habesha woman. @Factz help out
Genetics shows that Issaqs and Somalis in general are not Oromo explain that?
Logical? Oromos are from Kenya in origins and Somalis from the high north, how are we from you.
We are closer to Afar and Soho in blood and language and you are with Omotic people,

 

[Abba Sadacha]

https://books.google.com/books?id=yoMBQCr4LysC&redir_esc=y
He had 8 kids with a dir and Habesha woman. @Factz help out
Genities shows that Issaqs and Somalis ingeneral are not Oromo explain that?
Logical? Oromos are from Kenya in origins and Somalis from the high north, how are we from you.

kkkk, do u think oromo always lived only in kenya
we were pushed down there when the habeshat and other tribes crossed from arabia
they displaced the indigenous africans, which included oromos, and also married and mingled with many of them, thus giving birth to the habesh, or, the mixed/mongrel groups, i.e. amhara, tigrayans, etc.



https://bakipress.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/the-ethnic-origin-of-the-somali-people-and-clan-system/

Founding the Somali Ethnic Group
There were many Arab settlers along the Coast of East Africa, who intermarried with local people and had cultural influence in this region. A very small number of Arab settlers founded the current Somali ethnic group about 1200 A.D. At that time, it appears that the territory which is now the Republic of Somaliland, the former British Somaliland, was occupied primarily by the Oramo ethnic group. They are a Cushitic ethnic group that makes up about 40% of the population of Ethiopia today — sometimes called the Galla, although they themselves do not like the name of Galla. This hypothesis is supported by the fact that the Somali and Oramo languages are both distinct Cushitic languages that are more similar to each other than to other nearby Cushitic languages, such as of the Afars (Danakils) living today as neighbors both in Djibouti (40% of the population) and in the Danakil Desert of Eastern Ethiopia and Eritrea.
The following Somali legend concerning its foundations seems to be reasonably substantiated by the available evidence.<113,113a>
Darod landed first at Heis, about 10 miles (16 km) West of Mait on the Northern Coast of the Republic of Somaliland. Isaq probably landed later at Mait, where there is still a stone memorial at his grave. They married local women, developed a traditional clan structure based upon descendants on the male side, and gradually spread out, particularly into the South, including Eastern Ethiopia, the former Italian Somalia, and Northern Kenya. They either assimilated local people by marrying their women or drove them back so that they made up well over 90% of the population in their territory. When Somalis and Oramos meet each other as strangers on a street today, they are usually unable to distinguish whether the other person is a Somali or an Oramo, unless they are wearing traditional clothing or begin to speak in their own native language.
There are also hypotheses that the Oramos were primarily herders of cattle, which were susceptible to the frequent minor and major droughts. The Arabian influence on the Somalis placed a higher emphasis upon camels, sheep, and goats — which were better suited for this environment. Whenever the Oramos moved out of dry rangelands during periods of drought, the Somalis pushed them back toward Ethiopia, with their better mixture of livestock.<114>
This simple version is complicated by the fact that some Somali clans were founded by at least two earlier settlers, Ram Nag and Samarone. They probably were Arabs who landed at or near Zeila, next to the border with Djibouti. Therefore, Darod and Isaq are not the oldest forefathers of the Somali ethnic group and not all of the Somali ethnic group derive directly from them. Yet, they are considered to be the cultural heros or fathers who brought their relatives together within the clan structure that now defines the Somali ethnic group. Most Somalis also claim to be direct descendents of the Prophet Mohamed (founder of the Islamic religion), who is their religious hero.
Darod married a daughter of Dir Irrir, a great grandson of Ram Nag. Therefore, all of the descendents of Ram Nag became relatives of the descendents of Darod — as in-laws on the side of his wife.
These early relationships are illustrated in Figure A-4-1, including the foundations of a few of the Somali clans and groups of clans.

Figure A-4-1: The Foundations of the Somali Ethnic Group
The Somali people, as in most ethnic groups of this region, only use given first names and no family name, as is customary in Europe. For better identification, each individual states the names of his or her father, grandfather, etc. to an optional number of levels after their own given name. This is often confusing for us, since we often call a Somali with the name of X Y Z simply Mr. Z. However, this is improper, since Y, the name of his father, is more important than Z, the name of his grandfather. Women also have a given name plus the names of their father, grandfather, etc. Therefore, married women do not take on any of the names of their husband when they marry. Sometimes, the given name is replaced by a nickname. When a clan is based upon a man who is better known by his nickname that his given name, then the clan may bear the nickname, rather than the given name of the founder. The word “Sheikh” is usually used as a title, rather than as a name. It can be included as appropriate in the list of given names that a person uses.
Many Somali men have memorized the names of all of their male ancestors back to these origins, usually about 25 or more generations back, which does agree with the alleged origin about 800 years ago, since 800 / 25 = 32 as the average age of fathers when each son was born. This leads to the unusual situation where each Somali knows his own individual heritage in great detail and depth, but very little about the overall big historical picture — the exact opposite of Europeans who know their big historical picture much better but do not know their own individual heritages in nearly this depth or detail. When the first modern census is taken, using computers for processing the data, it should be possible to put together a fairly accurate genealogy of the Somali ethnic group, going back about 25 generations to its foundations.
Some experts challenge at least parts of this legend for the creation of the Somali ethnic group. As examples, some people believe that

• Isaq was a later descendent of Dir Irrir Zumali,
  
  
• there was a son with the name of Esi between Irrir and Dir,
  
  
• Madoba< was a son of Dir instead of Irrir, and
  
  
• the Gadabursi group of clans are also descendents of Dir Irrir Zumali rather than a separate Arab settler by the name of Samarone.
  

 

[Factz]

kkkk, do u think oromo always lived only in kenya
we were pushed down there when the habeshat and other tribes crossed from arabia
they displaced the indigenous africans, which included oromos, and also married and mingled with many of them, thus giving birth to the habesh, or, the mixed/mongrel groups, i.e. amhara, tigrayans, etc.



https://bakipress.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/the-ethnic-origin-of-the-somali-people-and-clan-system/

Founding the Somali Ethnic Group
There were many Arab settlers along the Coast of East Africa, who intermarried with local people and had cultural influence in this region. A very small number of Arab settlers founded the current Somali ethnic group about 1200 A.D. At that time, it appears that the territory which is now the Republic of Somaliland, the former British Somaliland, was occupied primarily by the Oramo ethnic group. They are a Cushitic ethnic group that makes up about 40% of the population of Ethiopia today — sometimes called the Galla, although they themselves do not like the name of Galla. This hypothesis is supported by the fact that the Somali and Oramo languages are both distinct Cushitic languages that are more similar to each other than to other nearby Cushitic languages, such as of the Afars (Danakils) living today as neighbors both in Djibouti (40% of the population) and in the Danakil Desert of Eastern Ethiopia and Eritrea.
The following Somali legend concerning its foundations seems to be reasonably substantiated by the available evidence.<113,113a>
Darod landed first at Heis, about 10 miles (16 km) West of Mait on the Northern Coast of the Republic of Somaliland. Isaq probably landed later at Mait, where there is still a stone memorial at his grave. They married local women, developed a traditional clan structure based upon descendants on the male side, and gradually spread out, particularly into the South, including Eastern Ethiopia, the former Italian Somalia, and Northern Kenya. They either assimilated local people by marrying their women or drove them back so that they made up well over 90% of the population in their territory. When Somalis and Oramos meet each other as strangers on a street today, they are usually unable to distinguish whether the other person is a Somali or an Oramo, unless they are wearing traditional clothing or begin to speak in their own native language.
There are also hypotheses that the Oramos were primarily herders of cattle, which were susceptible to the frequent minor and major droughts. The Arabian influence on the Somalis placed a higher emphasis upon camels, sheep, and goats — which were better suited for this environment. Whenever the Oramos moved out of dry rangelands during periods of drought, the Somalis pushed them back toward Ethiopia, with their better mixture of livestock.<114>
This simple version is complicated by the fact that some Somali clans were founded by at least two earlier settlers, Ram Nag and Samarone. They probably were Arabs who landed at or near Zeila, next to the border with Djibouti. Therefore, Darod and Isaq are not the oldest forefathers of the Somali ethnic group and not all of the Somali ethnic group derive directly from them. Yet, they are considered to be the cultural heros or fathers who brought their relatives together within the clan structure that now defines the Somali ethnic group. Most Somalis also claim to be direct descendents of the Prophet Mohamed (founder of the Islamic religion), who is their religious hero.
Darod married a daughter of Dir Irrir, a great grandson of Ram Nag. Therefore, all of the descendents of Ram Nag became relatives of the descendents of Darod — as in-laws on the side of his wife.
These early relationships are illustrated in Figure A-4-1, including the foundations of a few of the Somali clans and groups of clans.

Figure A-4-1: The Foundations of the Somali Ethnic Group
The Somali people, as in most ethnic groups of this region, only use given first names and no family name, as is customary in Europe. For better identification, each individual states the names of his or her father, grandfather, etc. to an optional number of levels after their own given name. This is often confusing for us, since we often call a Somali with the name of X Y Z simply Mr. Z. However, this is improper, since Y, the name of his father, is more important than Z, the name of his grandfather. Women also have a given name plus the names of their father, grandfather, etc. Therefore, married women do not take on any of the names of their husband when they marry. Sometimes, the given name is replaced by a nickname. When a clan is based upon a man who is better known by his nickname that his given name, then the clan may bear the nickname, rather than the given name of the founder. The word “Sheikh” is usually used as a title, rather than as a name. It can be included as appropriate in the list of given names that a person uses.
Many Somali men have memorized the names of all of their male ancestors back to these origins, usually about 25 or more generations back, which does agree with the alleged origin about 800 years ago, since 800 / 25 = 32 as the average age of fathers when each son was born. This leads to the unusual situation where each Somali knows his own individual heritage in great detail and depth, but very little about the overall big historical picture — the exact opposite of Europeans who know their big historical picture much better but do not know their own individual heritages in nearly this depth or detail. When the first modern census is taken, using computers for processing the data, it should be possible to put together a fairly accurate genealogy of the Somali ethnic group, going back about 25 generations to its foundations.
Some experts challenge at least parts of this legend for the creation of the Somali ethnic group. As examples, some people believe that

• Isaq was a later descendent of Dir Irrir Zumali,
  
  
• there was a son with the name of Esi between Irrir and Dir,
  
  
• Madoba< was a son of Dir instead of Irrir, and
  
  
• the Gadabursi group of clans are also descendents of Dir Irrir Zumali rather than a separate Arab settler by the name of Samarone.

Why are you showing us a blog? This right here is made up by some retard. Here: https://bakipress.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/the-ethnic-origin-of-the-somali-people-and-clan-system/

Like really?

You're a moron. I already debunked that before. Samaale & Sab ancestor was Abrone and he goes back to Cush and Ham, not Arabs.

By the way, Somalis were never ever Arabized. Who told you this shit? Somalis hardly have any Arab DNA, they did not even allow Arabs to stay one day on their port. Somalis do not speak Arabic nor have Arab culture. The only thing we share with Arabs is Islam and we became Muslims during Hijra and trade during the 7th century.

Somalis are the only neighbours of Arabia that have never been Arabized.

Arabs had no cultural influence or settlements in Somalia. .

 

[Von]

kkkk, do u think oromo always lived only in kenya
we were pushed down there when the habeshat and other tribes crossed from arabia
they displaced the indigenous africans, which included oromos, and also married and mingled with many of them, thus giving birth to the habesh, or, the mixed/mongrel groups, i.e. amhara, tigrayans, etc.



https://bakipress.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/the-ethnic-origin-of-the-somali-people-and-clan-system/

Founding the Somali Ethnic Group
There were many Arab settlers along the Coast of East Africa, who intermarried with local people and had cultural influence in this region. A very small number of Arab settlers founded the current Somali ethnic group about 1200 A.D. At that time, it appears that the territory which is now the Republic of Somaliland, the former British Somaliland, was occupied primarily by the Oramo ethnic group. They are a Cushitic ethnic group that makes up about 40% of the population of Ethiopia today — sometimes called the Galla, although they themselves do not like the name of Galla. This hypothesis is supported by the fact that the Somali and Oramo languages are both distinct Cushitic languages that are more similar to each other than to other nearby Cushitic languages, such as of the Afars (Danakils) living today as neighbors both in Djibouti (40% of the population) and in the Danakil Desert of Eastern Ethiopia and Eritrea.
The following Somali legend concerning its foundations seems to be reasonably substantiated by the available evidence.<113,113a>
Darod landed first at Heis, about 10 miles (16 km) West of Mait on the Northern Coast of the Republic of Somaliland. Isaq probably landed later at Mait, where there is still a stone memorial at his grave. They married local women, developed a traditional clan structure based upon descendants on the male side, and gradually spread out, particularly into the South, including Eastern Ethiopia, the former Italian Somalia, and Northern Kenya. They either assimilated local people by marrying their women or drove them back so that they made up well over 90% of the population in their territory. When Somalis and Oramos meet each other as strangers on a street today, they are usually unable to distinguish whether the other person is a Somali or an Oramo, unless they are wearing traditional clothing or begin to speak in their own native language.
There are also hypotheses that the Oramos were primarily herders of cattle, which were susceptible to the frequent minor and major droughts. The Arabian influence on the Somalis placed a higher emphasis upon camels, sheep, and goats — which were better suited for this environment. Whenever the Oramos moved out of dry rangelands during periods of drought, the Somalis pushed them back toward Ethiopia, with their better mixture of livestock.<114>
This simple version is complicated by the fact that some Somali clans were founded by at least two earlier settlers, Ram Nag and Samarone. They probably were Arabs who landed at or near Zeila, next to the border with Djibouti. Therefore, Darod and Isaq are not the oldest forefathers of the Somali ethnic group and not all of the Somali ethnic group derive directly from them. Yet, they are considered to be the cultural heros or fathers who brought their relatives together within the clan structure that now defines the Somali ethnic group. Most Somalis also claim to be direct descendents of the Prophet Mohamed (founder of the Islamic religion), who is their religious hero.
Darod married a daughter of Dir Irrir, a great grandson of Ram Nag. Therefore, all of the descendents of Ram Nag became relatives of the descendents of Darod — as in-laws on the side of his wife.
These early relationships are illustrated in Figure A-4-1, including the foundations of a few of the Somali clans and groups of clans.

Figure A-4-1: The Foundations of the Somali Ethnic Group
The Somali people, as in most ethnic groups of this region, only use given first names and no family name, as is customary in Europe. For better identification, each individual states the names of his or her father, grandfather, etc. to an optional number of levels after their own given name. This is often confusing for us, since we often call a Somali with the name of X Y Z simply Mr. Z. However, this is improper, since Y, the name of his father, is more important than Z, the name of his grandfather. Women also have a given name plus the names of their father, grandfather, etc. Therefore, married women do not take on any of the names of their husband when they marry. Sometimes, the given name is replaced by a nickname. When a clan is based upon a man who is better known by his nickname that his given name, then the clan may bear the nickname, rather than the given name of the founder. The word “Sheikh” is usually used as a title, rather than as a name. It can be included as appropriate in the list of given names that a person uses.
Many Somali men have memorized the names of all of their male ancestors back to these origins, usually about 25 or more generations back, which does agree with the alleged origin about 800 years ago, since 800 / 25 = 32 as the average age of fathers when each son was born. This leads to the unusual situation where each Somali knows his own individual heritage in great detail and depth, but very little about the overall big historical picture — the exact opposite of Europeans who know their big historical picture much better but do not know their own individual heritages in nearly this depth or detail. When the first modern census is taken, using computers for processing the data, it should be possible to put together a fairly accurate genealogy of the Somali ethnic group, going back about 25 generations to its foundations.
Some experts challenge at least parts of this legend for the creation of the Somali ethnic group. As examples, some people believe that

• Isaq was a later descendent of Dir Irrir Zumali,
  
  
• there was a son with the name of Esi between Irrir and Dir,
  
  
• Madoba< was a son of Dir instead of Irrir, and
  
  
• the Gadabursi group of clans are also descendents of Dir Irrir Zumali rather than a separate Arab settler by the name of Samarone.

Hypothsis beats genetics, language and common sense history? .......

 

[Factz]

Hypothsis beats genetics, language and common sense history? .......

He said Oromos used to live on the highlands.

They were actually Agews but got assimilated by ancient Sabaeans which birthed Abyssinians.

He's claiming Oromos and Arabs birthed Somalis. Are we Habesha too?

The only Cushitic people that Somalis are closely related to are Afars. Somalis are Cushitic therefore older than Arabs and heck, we are even older than Oromos. Don't know what the f*ck is he talking about?


@Abba Sadacha Do you actually believe your nonsensical bullshit? The word Somali pre-dates Islam, Somali tribes have been mentioned in the ancient times.

Only Darood and Isaaq have Arab myths but originally they're both Samaale. They just claim Banu-Hashim in order to have closer ties with the Arabs back then.

 

[Von]

He said Oromos used to live on the highlands.

They were actually Agews but got assimilated by ancient Sabaeans which birthed Abyssinians.

He's claiming Oromos and Arabs birthed Somalis. Are we Habesha too?

The only Cushitic people that Somalis are closely related to are Afars. Somalis are Cushitic therefore older than Arabs and heck, we are even older than Oromos. Don't know what the f*ck is he talking about?


@Abba Sadacha Do you actually believe your nonsensical bullshit? The word Somali pre-dates Islam, Somali tribes have been mentioned in the ancient times.

Only Darood and Isaaq have Arab myths but originally they're both Samaale. They just claim Banu-Hashim in order to have closer ties with the Arabs back then.

I guess when you found out Oromo history is about cutting out babies from the womb of mothers and have your own women's boobies removed by Habesha, you too would go off the deep end.
i pity Oromos, no culture, history, religion and history

 

[Abba Sadacha]

He said Oromos used to live on the highlands.

They were actually Agews but got assimilated by ancient Sabaeans which birthed Abyssinians.

He's claiming Oromos and Arabs birthed Somalis. Are we Habesha too?

The only Cushitic people that Somalis are closely related to are Afars. Somalis are Cushitic therefore older than Arabs and heck, we are even older than Oromos. Don't know what the f*ck is he talking about?


@Abba Sadacha Do you actually believe your nonsensical bullshit? The word Somali pre-dates Islam, Somali tribes have been mentioned in the ancient times.

Only Darood and Isaaq have Arab myths but originally they're both Samaale. They just claim Banu-Hashim in order to have closer ties with the Arabs back then.

do u think agews lived there alone
did u forget agews and oromos were marrying each other and fighting each other, for land, before the habeshat tribes came
did u forget agew are cushitic and that our language influenced theirs a lot?
if somalis were older; why hasn't a single historian proposed the other way around, that somalis fathered oromos? not even 1 historian has done so, in fact, they always say: oromos/gallas are an ancient race who gave birth to many others. we have children as far as uganda bro.

 

[Factz]

do u think agews lived there alone
did u forget agews and oromos were marrying each other and fighting each other, for land, before the habeshat tribes came
did u forget agew are cushitic and that our language influenced theirs a lot?
if somalis were older; why hasn't a single historian proposed the other way around, that somalis fathered oromos? not even 1 historian has done so, in fact, they always say: oromos/gallas are an ancient race who gave birth to many others. we have children as far as uganda bro.

I can't reason with you. Somalis and Oromos did not father each other. Being older doesn't mean you have to father someone.


I said Somalis and Oromos are east Cushitic meaning we had a fucking common ancestor. We split from each other many thousands of years ago which formed us who we are today. Somali identity was formed in northern Somalia while Oromos identity was formed between southern Ethiopia and northern Kenya. Oromos are closer to Sidamo and Hadiye then us while we are closer to Afar and Saho. It's culturally and genetically proven.

There are no evidence of Oromos coming into contact with Agews before the 16th century. Where are you even getting this information from?

By the way, do you know how ancient Dir and Rahanweyn is? I mean Somalis have been mentioned in the ancient times while Oromos were mentioned in the 15th century.

Let's not forget you made a stupid claim about Arabs and I proved to you that Somalis have always been Somali even when Arabs arrived with Islam during Hijra. Us northern Somalis came into contact with Oromos in the 16th century. Look at this medieval map. It shows you Oromos didn't live any of these areas but it shows you Adal Sultanate and how it was shared between Somalis and Afars.

 

[Von]

do u think agews lived there alone
did u forget agews and oromos were marrying each other and fighting each other, for land, before the habeshat tribes came
did u forget agew are cushitic and that our language influenced theirs a lot?
if somalis were older; why hasn't a single historian proposed the other way around, that somalis fathered oromos? not even 1 historian has done so, in fact, they always say: oromos/gallas are an ancient race who gave birth to many others. we have children as far as uganda bro.

Just because one is older doesn't know mean it birth anything, Cushitics people split up and become separated people not Cushitic peoples are just Oromo, besides your blog hypothesis, colonial and debunked Issaq myths you have brought nothing of evidence to suggest Somalis are Oromo. Why is that? because it is impossible for Somalis to be Oromo

 

[Disappointed]

@Abba Sadacha

Don't listen to them. Oromos and Somalis are Cushitic brothers. We both have common enemy Habesh. We will have cushitic unity one day.

 

[RichEnoughForGucci]

@Abba Sadacha

Don't listen to them. Oromos and Somalis are Cushitic brothers. We both have common enemy Habesh. We will have cushitic unity one day.

Shut up man f*ck oromos f*ck cushitic unity

 

[Von]

@Abba Sadacha you probably wont return to this thread the Karbashing was too fierce but i need to know, was Ahmad ibn Ibrahim al-Ghazi Oromo?

 

[Factz]

@Abba Sadacha you probably wont return to this thread the Karbashing was too fierce but i need to know, was Ahmad ibn Ibrahim al-Ghazi Oromo?

Everybody knows Ahmed Gurey was a Somali born in Zeila that had ties with the Walashma Dynasty which was a Somali dynasty that ruled Adal Sultanate. Ahmed Gurey fought the Oromo invaders in the Dawaro vessel state and converted them to Islam and a small group of Oromo Muslims he made, he turned them into a temporary force but they went back to their lands quickly while northern Somalis and Afars who were part of the Adal Sultanate continued to fight.

These sources are enough.

 

[TheSayid]

do u think agews lived there alone
did u forget agews and oromos were marrying each other and fighting each other, for land, before the habeshat tribes came
did u forget agew are cushitic and that our language influenced theirs a lot?
if somalis were older; why hasn't a single historian proposed the other way around, that somalis fathered oromos? not even 1 historian has done so, in fact, they always say: oromos/gallas are an ancient race who gave birth to many others. we have children as far as uganda bro.

how can you father us when oromos have many different paternal lineages themselves, oromos don't even have one "father" , they're very heterogeneous.

 

[Disappointed]

@yaskaaa

Oromos are our close brothers. Since Somali unity is impossible I think we should unite with Oromos

 

[Abba Sadacha]

I guess when you found out Oromo history is about cutting out babies from the womb of mothers and have your own women's boobies removed by Habesha, you too would go off the deep end.
i pity Oromos, no culture, history, religion and history

sounds like u been sipping the habesha propaganda koolaid for too long my camel chasing broth

@Abba Sadacha you probably wont return to this thread the Karbashing was too fierce but i need to know, was Ahmad ibn Ibrahim al-Ghazi Oromo?

LOL kkkk, bro, this is a somali site, of course somalis are going to gang up, but the fact is, many historians proposed this theory, doesn't make it 100 percent true, just means it's possible.

as far as ahmed gurey or gran as he's know to amharic speakers, who knows?
afar claim him. oromo claim him. somali claim him.
fact is, we know for sure that, he was muslim before anything else, and his war was for Islam's sake, not for ethnic nationalism!

 

[Abba Sadacha]

how can you father us when oromos have many different paternal lineages themselves, oromos don't even have one "father" , they're very heterogeneous.

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this is centuries after assimilating people, so you're right in a way. we assimilated somalis, amharas, gurages, etc, and became this bigger nation.
but original oromos still exist, pure ones still exist, they are just a minority, the same way pure amharas are a minority.
the original oromos were described as being an ancient race that gave birth to many groups in our area, i.e. afar, somalis, tutsis.
the thing is, u deny us, because u look down on oromo, but it's okay, because we know better, that Islam is what makes one superior, not ethnicity.
none of us chose to be oromo, somali, etc, it was Allahs will, right?
but practicing Islam and sticking to it, and being patient, is a choice, that u must make, and stick to, until Allah wills for u to die and then be resurrected
so in the end, we'll always love the somalis, and in real life, we get along for the most part,
i may end up with a somali wifey too, who knows, and my somali brother may marry one of my beautiful light skinned long hair having oromo female cousins lol

 

[Abba Sadacha]

@Abba Sadacha

Don't listen to them. Oromos and Somalis are Cushitic brothers. We both have common enemy Habesh. We will have cushitic unity one day.

we are united by blood and religion. family fights, but in the end, come back to each other.
it's like that with oromo-somali-afars. the habasha laugh as we hate each other, because if we united, we could break their power, and the white man would be powerless to do anything.

 

[Von]

this is centuries after assimilating people, so you're right in a way. we assimilated somalis, amharas, gurages, etc, and became this bigger nation.
but original oromos still exist, pure ones still exist, they are just a minority, the same way pure amharas are a minority.
the original oromos were described as being an ancient race that gave birth to many groups in our area, i.e. afar, somalis, tutsis.
the thing is, u deny us, because u look down on oromo, but it's okay, because we know better, that Islam is what makes one superior, not ethnicity.
none of us chose to be oromo, somali, etc, it was Allahs will, right?
but practicing Islam and sticking to it, and being patient, is a choice, that u must make, and stick to, until Allah wills for u to die and then be resurrected
so in the end, we'll always love the somalis, and in real life, we get along for the most part,
i may end up with a somali wifey too, who knows, and my somali brother may marry one of my beautiful light skinned long hair having oromo female cousins lol

All lies with no evidence to back it up but okay one thing you said was right tho in a way, I've seen Somali guys pump and dump Oromo girls shit like its nothing can't get any more funnier. So i guess we are connected in a say slave master relationship tings, keep chase tho