ANALYSIS Mismeasurement of the Somali

It is entirely possible that Somalis have average IQs much higher than what has been thrown around on this board. I used state standardized test data for two high schools in Minnesota that are 100% Somali to show this possibility.
The first is Ubah Medical Academy in Hopkins and the second is Higher Ground Academy in St. Paul. Combined these two schools have about 1,000 students that are 100% Somali.

Higher Ground Academy compared to the state average:

Math
Reading
Science

Ubah Medical Academy compared to the state average:
Math
Reading
Science
https://imgur.com/pDOPscL


Almost 100% of each school qualify for the Reduced or Free Lunch program from the USDA. If you adjust for poverty using this program as a proxy for poverty, Somalis outperform even Whites almost all the time! These data have shocked me since I saw them a few hours ago, absolutely mind blowing.

Keep in mind that Minnesota, as a state, has some of the most intelligent people in the US. Being near average in Minnesota means being moderately above average in the US.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...t-states-in-the-union/?utm_term=.d9b95b385ada

@Amun come in here ASAP!!!! Your thread about Nigerians is the reason I looked for this info to begin with.

:browtf:

source: http://rc.education.state.mn.us
I grew up in one of the charter schools that was about 85% Somali, I grew up with about 30 other children in my grade that I still talk to on occasion, I’m a senior in high school now and I’ve taken 5 ap classes and am taking the last ap test I have next week! Also one of my friends got a track scholarship last month
 
It is entirely possible that Somalis have average IQs much higher than what has been thrown around on this board. I used state standardized test data for two high schools in Minnesota that are 100% Somali to show this possibility.
The first is Ubah Medical Academy in Hopkins and the second is Higher Ground Academy in St. Paul. Combined these two schools have about 1,000 students that are 100% Somali.

Higher Ground Academy compared to the state average:

Math
Reading
Science

Ubah Medical Academy compared to the state average:
Math
Reading
Science
https://imgur.com/pDOPscL


Almost 100% of each school qualify for the Reduced or Free Lunch program from the USDA. If you adjust for poverty using this program as a proxy for poverty, Somalis outperform even Whites almost all the time! These data have shocked me since I saw them a few hours ago, absolutely mind blowing.

Keep in mind that Minnesota, as a state, has some of the most intelligent people in the US. Being near average in Minnesota means being moderately above average in the US.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...t-states-in-the-union/?utm_term=.d9b95b385ada

@Amun come in here ASAP!!!! Your thread about Nigerians is the reason I looked for this info to begin with.

:browtf:

source: http://rc.education.state.mn.us
Hey bro what does the percentage mean in this context
 
The whole Lynn study is BS to begin with. They didn't even test half of the countries and assigned random numbers by calculating the average of neighboring countries.
Arabs have developed great civilizations and yet according to Lynn most Arab countries are in the mid 80s when it comes to IQ which is the same as African Americans. How is it possible?
(Necroing, sorry)

Very good point. I have yet to see this answered. Near Eastern civilizations were the most prolific, along with the Greco-Roman (who used to be more genetically slanted to MENAs), yet are lower on the IQ chart by Lynn than Anglos and East Asians. 🤔
 
Along with IQ there are 2 other psychometric traits that have significant and substantive predictive value for Academic and Occupational performance. These traits are also significantly and substantially, genetically heritable. There're predictive polygenic scores for these traits. I suspect they have an impact at the population level as well.

1) High Levels of Trait Conscientiousness: dutifulness, orderliness, industriousness (work ethic + productivity), and self-discipline.

2) Low Levels of Trait Neuroticism (or High Emotional Stability): Self-esteem, self-efficacy, life satisfaction, job satisfaction, little to no depression/anxiety, little to no defensive aggression, low irritability, high social status, little to no sensitivity to stress.

Combined, IQ + conscientiousness + emotional stability have a predictive value of r > 0.6

Low conscientiousness (and agreeableness) is associated with criminality, psychopathy, antisocial behaviour, and aggression. These are actually issues that disproportionally effect the Somali Community in Toronto and I'm sure the diaspora as a whole. Search up "Toronto Murder Suspect" and about 1/5 of the mugshots are Somalis. That's a city of 6million people with 50-100k Somalis.
What do we make of Internet Trolls, like X shitposters, who score high on Dark Triad and psychopathic traits but don't have a criminal background?
 
Along with IQ there are 2 other psychometric traits that have significant and substantive predictive value for Academic and Occupational performance. These traits are also significantly and substantially, genetically heritable. There're predictive polygenic scores for these traits. I suspect they have an impact at the population level as well.

1) High Levels of Trait Conscientiousness: dutifulness, orderliness, industriousness (work ethic + productivity), and self-discipline.

2) Low Levels of Trait Neuroticism (or High Emotional Stability): Self-esteem, self-efficacy, life satisfaction, job satisfaction, little to no depression/anxiety, little to no defensive aggression, low irritability, high social status, little to no sensitivity to stress.

Combined, IQ + conscientiousness + emotional stability have a predictive value of r > 0.6

Low conscientiousness (and agreeableness) is associated with criminality, psychopathy, antisocial behaviour, and aggression. These are actually issues that disproportionally effect the Somali Community in Toronto and I'm sure the diaspora as a whole. Search up "Toronto Murder Suspect" and about 1/5 of the mugshots are Somalis. That's a city of 6million people with 50-100k Somalis.
This is bullshit. Those are socio-cultural traits. Polygenic scores are weakly predictive, as has been proven through scientific control, when they relate to general behavioral traits and temperamental variability. That is why medical health facilities don't use them since false positives make them less predictive than random guesses.


Polygenics is a real thing from a genomics standpoint, but metrics for scoring or highlighting traits predicting behavior are not good; people who push its validity are fraudulent. Besides, we know that the more polygenic behavior is, which all behavior is, the higher the percentage environment plays since each DNA in an interrelated cluster has a weak association.

A "trait" like conscientiousness is a vaguely defined, broad set of characteristics spoken about in psychology that is extremely polygenic, and as such, has more to do with upbringing, culture, and other external factors than genetic predispositions. This gene-centric view is a call back to the eugenic legacy that tries to brand broad behavioral categories -- defined unscientifically by Western psychology -- as primarily gene-based.

Words like 'heritable' are not used correctly by people on the "expert" side who have an agenda, like Robert Plomin et al., and the people who hear it, mainly propagandists of various kinds from the pseudo-intellectual side and laymen, misunderstand what it means. The vague dimension of that term has led to much confusion, lies, and corruption in modern discourse on human behavior.

Besides, this guy that posted this one thing writing bullshit, claiming Somalis are genetically failures for modern society (that is basically what he wrote if you peel back the jargon layers) is definitely an ajnabi for coming here, writing this one post and dipping. The guy has no background in criminology and mentions mugshots without context, and that is definitely the trait of a misleading figure with zero rigor but a lot of selective and erroneous language, pretending to have competence but having little depth in anything they mention.

Idiot wrote this "Combined, IQ + conscientiousness + emotional stability have a predictive value of r > 0.6" thinking he sounds smart. It's the dumbest sentence.

A random guy who says "a person who has discipline and drive" using pure colloquial words is scientifically and generally correct over that drivel. I see these types all over the internet thinking they can speak down to people without having any intelligence in what they write. He regurgitated a few words he got from somewhere else uncritically and came here to say Somalis are not only stupid, but they are temperamentally misaligned for the sweet spot that one requires to fair well even if they had intelligence.

You guys need to check these people who come with these pseudo-scientific statements to further unsound racist ideologies.
 
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