ANALYSIS Mismeasurement of the Somali

Intelligence has nothing to do with race it’s all about the resources, environment and routine
How can you say that?
There is not one school in America where whites on average score better than Asians likewise there's not a single school in the US where blacks score higher than whites on average.
 

AliAlg3bra

O block alumni
How can you say that?
There is not one school in America where whites on average score better than Asians likewise there's not a single school in the US where blacks score higher than whites on average.
Find another way other than IQ test to measure intelligence cuz these IQ tests have a million confounding variables.

IQ test was designed to check the ability of special needs individuals back in the day and even then it was a shitty estimate. intelligence potential cannot be defined with IQ tests, much less the intelligence of a population. I'm not gonna even mention how the circumstances of testing skew that data further
 
Find another way other than IQ test to measure intelligence cuz these IQ tests have a million confounding variables.

IQ test was designed to check the ability of special needs individuals back in the day and even then it was a shitty estimate. intelligence potential cannot be defined with IQ tests, much less the intelligence of a population. I'm not gonna even mention how the circumstances of testing skew that data further
I was comparing SAT scores. IQ is the best predictor of success. The vast majority of psychologists would tell you that.
Here is a graphs that shows the correlation between national IQ and alleles that are associated with intelligence


It sucks that this is the case but I'm also not surprised by it cause c'mon Europeans discovered electricity whereas sub-Saharan Africans did what exactly throughout the entire history of humanity.
 

AliAlg3bra

O block alumni
I was comparing SAT scores. IQ is the best predictor of success. The vast majority of psychologists would tell you that.
Here is a graphs that shows the correlation between national IQ and alleles that are associated with intelligence


It sucks that this is the case but I'm also not surprised by it cause c'mon Europeans discovered electricity whereas sub-Saharan Africans did what exactly throughout the entire history of humanity.
Best predictor. correlation does not mean causation sxb. IQ test can't withstand any actual scrutiny because they're made by social "scientists"
 
Best predictor. correlation does not mean causation sxb. IQ test can't withstand any actual scrutiny because they're made by social "scientists"
I gave you gene variations and SAT scores. It's up to you to believe any of these psychometric tests but you're just getting worse information if you choose to not believe them. Might make you comfortable in the short term but it's a bad idea in the long term cause you will make worse predictions.
These results are also impossible to ignore because they will crop up even if you don't want them to. Other people that do not have the same trepidations as you will investigate racial differences.
 

AliAlg3bra

O block alumni
I gave you gene variations and SAT scores. It's up to you to believe any of these psychometric tests but you're just getting worse information if you choose to not believe them. Might make you comfortable in the short term but it's a bad idea in the long term cause you will make worse predictions.
These results are also impossible to ignore because they will crop up even if you don't want them to. Other people that do not have the same trepidations as you will investigate racial differences.
I'm not saying it's wrong, I'm saying that the IQ test as a model has to decide on what intelligence is but can't because we don't understand the brain in its totality. You can't test for something you can't fully define. observing that poorer nations typically have low IQ scores and then jumping to the conclusion that ethnicity is the reason doesn't make sense. I can appreciate that It's useful in predicting vaguely though
 
I'm not saying it's wrong, I'm saying that the IQ test as a model has to decide on what intelligence is but can't because we don't understand the brain in its totality. You can't test for something you can't fully define. observing that poorer nations typically have low IQ scores and then jumping to the conclusion that ethnicity is the reason doesn't make sense. I can appreciate that It's useful in predicting vaguely though
There are twin studies that have been conducted in the US. The black/white IQ gap does not close. Where is the evidence for racial equality? Why should your point of departure be that different groups that have evolved in relatively geographically isolated environments have more or less the same cognitive ability?
 

AliAlg3bra

O block alumni
There are twin studies that have been conducted in the US. The black/white IQ gap does not close. Where is the evidence for racial equality? Why should your point of departure be that different groups that have evolved in relatively geographically isolated environments have more or less the same cognitive ability?
I just mentioned how IQ tests are poor measurements of intelligence and you've responded with a twin study of an IQ test. In any other field when something of significance pops up you'd ask the question why this is happening and then test your assumptions to come to a working answer.

IQ test didn't need to be rigorous because they were designed to see which kids had the most difficulty in school which then proved beneficial so they ran with it. You're asking too much of an IQ tests when you extrapolate that information as a completely accurate measure of intelligence to be the basis of other claims
 
I just mentioned how IQ tests are poor measurements of intelligence and you've responded with a twin study of an IQ test. In any other field when something of significance pops up you'd ask the question why this is happening and then test your assumptions to come to a working answer.

IQ test didn't need to be rigorous because they were designed to see which kids had the most difficulty in school which then proved beneficial so they ran with it. You're asking too much of an IQ tests when you extrapolate that information as a completely accurate measure of intelligence to be the basis of other claims
No one made the claim IQ is completely accurate but it is valid and reliable. You try to dismiss it by claiming oh prototypically it was made to assess mental disability but IQ tests are used by militaries all around the world and for job candidate evaluation. People that actually research human intelligence have very little doubts about the validity of IQ.

You are also completely ignoring the genetic results i provided. You implied it is no surprise that poorer nations score lower but it is the asian nations that score the highest despite the fact that western nations are wealthier.

I would also like an answer to why you are quick to dismiss racial difference, why is it so shocking and unacceptable? You won't find racial equality anywhere when it comes to intelligence.
 

AliAlg3bra

O block alumni
No one made the claim IQ is completely accurate but it is valid and reliable. You try to dismiss it by claiming oh prototypically it was made to assess mental disability but IQ tests are used by militaries all around the world and for job candidate evaluation. People that actually research human intelligence have very little doubts about the validity of IQ.

You are also completely ignoring the genetic results i provided. You implied it is no surprise that poorer nations score lower but it is the asian nations that score the highest despite the fact that western nations are wealthier.

I would also like an answer to why you are quick to dismiss racial difference, why is it so shocking and unacceptable? You won't find racial equality anywhere when it comes to intelligence.
how is "no one made the claim IQ is completely accurate" and "it's valid" the same
 
how is "no one made the claim IQ is completely accurate" and "it's valid" the same
It's valid in the sense that while it is indeed testing some forms of intelligence it could also be leaving some things out. I am not interested in this conversation anymore if you are not going to respond to any of my points.
 

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