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It says in the quran that pious women are obediant. To who? Their husbands and Allah. Im a hafidh, dont try debating the quran with me.
That still doesnt mean she must cook and clean

Its funny youre hafidh show me the text than
 

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That still doesnt mean she must cook and clean

Its funny youre hafidh show me the text than

Yes it does. We should also take note of the following points:

1 – The woman will be rewarded by Allaah for her obedience to her husband.

2 – This obedience should not involved disobeying Allaah. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There is no obedience to any created being if it involves disobedience towards the Creator.”

3 – Just as the husband has the right to be obeyed, Islam also tells him to treat his wife kindly. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And they (women) have rights (over their husbands as regards living expenses) similar (to those of their husbands) over them (as regards obedience and respect) to what is reasonable”

[al-Baqarah 2:228]

So he should not mistreat or oppress her, or issue harsh commands to her. Rather he should deal with her in a wise manner, and tell her to do things which are in her interests, his interests and the interests of the household, in a kind and gentle manner.

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The best of you is the one who is best to his wife, and I am the best of you to my wives.”.
 

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Yes it does. We should also take note of the following points:

1 – The woman will be rewarded by Allaah for her obedience to her husband.

2 – This obedience should not involved disobeying Allaah. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There is no obedience to any created being if it involves disobedience towards the Creator.”

3 – Just as the husband has the right to be obeyed, Islam also tells him to treat his wife kindly. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And they (women) have rights (over their husbands as regards living expenses) similar (to those of their husbands) over them (as regards obedience and respect) to what is reasonable”

[al-Baqarah 2:228]

he should not mistreat or oppress her, or issue harsh commands to her. Rather he should deal with her in a wise manner, and tell her to do things which are in her interests, his interests and the interests of the household, in a kind and gentle manner.

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The best of you is the one who is best to his wife, and I am the best of you to my wives.”.
Just like I Said islam doesnt dictate household responsibilities to the wife

he should not mistreat or oppress her, or issue harsh commands to her. Rather he should deal with her in a wise manner, and tell her to do things which are in her interests, his interests and the interests of the household, in a kind and gentle manner.

That to me sounds more like the wife and husband are very welcome to come up with an agreement about who is responsible for this or that chore
 

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Just like I Said islam doesnt dictate household responsibilities to the wife

he should not mistreat or oppress her, or issue harsh commands to her. Rather he should deal with her in a wise manner, and tell her to do things which are in her interests, his interests and the interests of the household, in a kind and gentle manner.

That to me sounds more like the wife and husband are very welcome to come up with an agreement about who is responsible for this or that chore

Dont twist the Qu'ran lol, she must be obedient to her husband. The Qu'ran says both men and women have different roles.
This is what I believe in. For men, the mission is to be effective leaders, providers, and protectors. This is our nature. A woman’s mission is to be an effective helper, nurturer and comforter. That is their nature. While men and women can share these attributes, men generally gravitate toward being leaders, providers and protectors, and women gravitate toward being helpers, nurturers and comforters.

If women don't want to be housewives then don't have kids and don't get into a relationship but contribute to the economy instead.
 
I’m definitely going to continue working when I marry, but once I have children of my own I’ll stay at home during their early years and return to part-time work when they are older. I don’t believe in putting children in day care, they’re my children and I’ll raise and nurture them myself. It’s my duty as a mother :fittytousand:
 
Just like I Said islam doesnt dictate household responsibilities to the wife

he should not mistreat or oppress her, or issue harsh commands to her. Rather he should deal with her in a wise manner, and tell her to do things which are in her interests, his interests and the interests of the household, in a kind and gentle manner.

That to me sounds more like the wife and husband are very welcome to come up with an agreement about who is responsible for this or that chore
Listen, if you think that, then its fine. But dont say Allah wants that. I hate it when people actually think they can change our religion to a feminist one.
The prophet said in an authentic hadith, that if he oblige a woman to prostrate to anyone except Allah, then he would oblige her to prostrate to her husband. If this doesnt prove my point, then you are absolutely delluded. You feminists want men to work 12 hour shifts EVERYDAY and facilitate a good life for his family meanwhile the wife does nothing. The man also shouldnt demmand anything out of political correction of feminsm. I have news for you, you can live that life if you want. But do NOT try and change our religion.
 
Its about responsability. The man is OBLIGED to bring money back money back; the woman is likewise OBLIGED to care for her home. What is exactly do you want? Do you want us to swap responsabilities? Or do you want us to share responsabilities? Either way, the way of Allah is more superior to your western booty clapping ways.
It says in the quran that pious women are obediant. To who? Their husbands and Allah. Im a hafidh, dont try debating the quran with me.
Being obedient doesn’t nesserily mean to clean and cook for him. You can get a maid to do that. Cooking, cleaning, and raising the children is as much as his responsibility as hers. If the wife chooses to cook and clean for her husband it’s sadqa and she gets rewarded for it. Deenta baro fadlan
 
Being obedient doesn’t nesserily mean to clean and cook for him. You can get a maid to do that. Cooking, cleaning, and raising the children is as much as his responsibility as hers. If the wife chooses to cook and clean for her husband it’s sadqa and she gets rewarded for it. Deenta baro fadlan
So according to you, a woman has literally no responsabilities?
 
All adults, regardless of gender, should work unless they are disabled.

Women and men alike have dreams and aspirations that go beyond the scope of marriage and parenthood, and they should be given the opportunity to fulfill them. Also, dual-income households are financially much better off like @Norwegian-Somali said.
 

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Dont twist the Qu'ran lol, she must be obedient to her husband. The Qu'ran says both men and women have different roles. This is our nature. A woman’s mission is to be an effective helper, nurturer and comforter. That is their nature. While men and women can share these attributes, men generally gravitate toward being leaders, providers and protectors, and women gravitate toward being helpers, nurturers and comforters.

If women don't want to be housewives then don't have kids and don't get into a relationship but contribute to the economy instead.
Qawwam in arabic doesnt mean obedience its a role of caretaking and protecting not lordship, ownership or guardianship

Its not a position of superiority it is however one of responsibility

Thats why A husband can islamically make final decisions in a family But its not permissible for him to act like a dictator doing whatever pleases him
Acting in such a way wouldnt be qawwam
 
So according to you, a woman has literally no responsabilities
Horta Responsibilities to you are only cooking and cleaning? Yaa ilahye yaqaan. What a wife is supposed to do is protect her husbands house and property. She’s supposed to help him be qawaam which means to allow him to be the caretaker and the protector.
 
All adults, regardless of gender, should work unless they are disabled.

Women and men alike have dreams and aspirations that go beyond the scope of marriage and parenthood, and they should be given the opportunity to fulfill them. Also, dual-income households are financially much better off like @Norwegian-Somali said.

I’ve never seen women who want to be a simple housewife, it’s only an ignorant guys dream
 
A wife must be obediant wjether you like it or not. If the husband wishes his wife to cook and clean without any injustice of over burdening, then its a sin if a woman says no, right?
 

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Listen, if you think that, then its fine. But dont say Allah wants that. I hate it when people actually think they can change our religion to a feminist one.
The prophet said in an authentic hadith, that if he oblige a woman to prostrate to anyone except Allah, then he would oblige her to prostrate to her husband. If this doesnt prove my point, then you are absolutely delluded. You feminists want men to work 12 hour shifts EVERYDAY and facilitate a good life for his family meanwhile the wife does nothing. The man also shouldnt demmand anything out of political correction of feminsm. I have news for you, you can live that life if you want. But do NOT try and change our religion.
I didnt change the religion you should study it again the "duty" that hadith refers to is having sex with your wife thats the obligation other Than that her responsibility is protecting youre house and not letting anyone in who you Dont approve it says no where she must Cook and clean
 
So according to you, a woman has literally no responsabilities?

Actually she is right, Islamically, the women doesn't have to cook or clean. That's the overwhelming Islamic concensus.
In fact, if she was a woman who came from a wealthy home where her father/guardian used to look after her and pamper her, she is entitled to the exact same priveliged lifestyle from her husband.
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