Is Somalia a Salafi country?
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Somalis for thousands of years being Shafii in creed, Ashari muslisms (tolerant, non extremist, mawlid loving people)
Some diaspora somalis "we wuz salafi even tho my grandparents were sufis, and the salafism sect emerged from sauid arabia from a deviant man called muhammad ibn abdul wahab. Salafis = wahabis
Saudi petro dollar is really sending their influence around the world
People in Somalia literally celebrate mawlid, as they should. Salafi-wahabis are only a after war issue
Some diaspora somalis "we wuz salafi even tho my grandparents were sufis, and the salafism sect emerged from sauid arabia from a deviant man called muhammad ibn abdul wahab. Salafis = wahabis
Saudi petro dollar is really sending their influence around the world
People in Somalia literally celebrate mawlid, as they should. Salafi-wahabis are only a after war issue
I have seen this guy say that so many times on twitter, wallah his not even somali, his south asianPlease discuss
Biggest cope ever, somalis aint wahabi
Thank God for the Ashari belief being strong in Somalia
wahabis only bring al shabab
Saxib, Sufis are still Sunni. Lol, I think this discussion is above people’s knowledge. Obviously, Salafis are Ahlus Sunnah.
The Taliban are Ashari. I don’t know what Sufism have to do with what you wrote. Just say you want liberalism and secularism. It’s obvious.
Your clearly a man behind this account. Like did yall all go to the same school or sumn? "jUst saY yOu WaNt lIberLism aNd sEcUlAriSm" like shut up. Someone critising wahabis and their kuffr beliefs that contradict the Quran isnt liberalism
Your just unintelligent. Taliban isnt Ashari, their extremist and dont represent islam. If you knew anything about the Ashari and Maturidi, you would know its the creed of the vast majority of muslims around the world. Making it Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jamaah.
Salafis are the ones who believe God has hands, and shins and knees and exist in the Sky
salafis are definitely not from Ahlul Sunnah Wal JamaahALSO WHEN DID I SAY SUFIS ARE NOT SUNNIS? Sufis are clearly Sunnis. Its typically wahabis who want to claim that sufis are not sunnis
Anyways I went to a private islamic school for years. One thing about me is i know my deen
al-Mu'tamid المعتمد
عِشْ مَا شِئْتَ فَإِنَّكَ مَيِّتٌ
False statement. There is a consensus to acknowledge the divine qualities mentioned in the Qur'an and Sunnah without drawing comparisons to created beings or discussing the mechanics of how they exist.Your clearly a man behind this account. Like did yall all go to the same school or sumn? "jUst saY yOu WaNt lIberLism aNd sEcUlAriSm" like shut up. Someone critising wahabis and their kuffr beliefs that contradict the Quran isnt liberalism
Your just unintelligent. Taliban isnt Ashari, their extremist and dont represent islam. If you knew anything about the Ashari and Maturidi, you would know its the creed of the vast majority of muslims around the world. Making it Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jamaah.
Salafis are the ones who believe God has hands, and shins and knees and exist in the Sky
ALSO WHEN DID I SAY SUFIS ARE NOT SUNNIS? Sufis are clearly Sunnis. Its typically wahabis who want to claim that sufis are not sunnis
Anyways I went to a private islamic school for years. One thing about me is i know my deen
If you did know your deen, you would know the opinions of other Shuyookh.
Lool, are you being for real? Me? The woman who constantly writes paragraphs after paragraphs about women’s rights?
I think you should shut it. Last time you were praising Israel. I can’t imagine any God fearing Muslim doing that, so you clearly have a disgusting agenda and we can all see it. Are you even Somali?
Their aqeedah is. I don’t know what their extremism has to do their personal aqeedah. You get extreme people belonging to every group. What’s unintelligent is associating Salafism or the Athari creed with extremism when you get Salafis who don’t even believe you can rebel against a president. So what are you on about.
Also, Salafis are most definitely Sunni.
Someone that knows their deen does not defend the state of Israel. Anyone that has love for Ummah doesn’t behave that way. You have more aggressions towards fellow Muslims than you do for those that oppress Palestinians. Says a lot doesn’t it?Salafis are the ones who believe God has hands, and shins and knees and exist in the Sky
ALSO WHEN DID I SAY SUFIS ARE NOT SUNNIS? Sufis are clearly Sunnis. Its typically wahabis who want to claim that sufis are not sunnis
Anyways I went to a private islamic school for years. One thing about me is i know my deen
In the Quran it clearly states
"لَيْسَ كمثلهِ شىءٌ وهوَ السَّميعُ البصيرُ"
This translated means, God does not resmble his creations in any shape. This ayah absolutely clears Allâh of resembling the creations. Therefore God does not have "arms, legs, shins". To even liken that to God is blasmpheous. Wahabis are the ones who liken God to his creations
Salafis also claim God exist on the Arsh. By claiming this, you claim God exist in a position and direction. Positions and directions are characteristics of the creations, and as stated above, God does not resemble the creations. In the Quran it says
« كان الله ولا مكان، وهو الآن على ما عليه كان »
This translated means, Allâh existed eternally and there was no place. He existed before creating the creation. He existed, and there was no place, creation, or thing. He is the Creator of everything.
God exist without a place, he is the creator of place. And the creator of place does not need his creations.
I employ all you to learn the deen properly before speaking
May God guide us all
it's funny when somali liberals believe for some reason asharis shafi muslims don't believe in shariah and that somalis were liberals before "evil saudi salafi preachers" came with the islamic law
JackieBurkhart
The years don't matter, the life in those years do
Please read this article and be careful about these kinds of statements:
https://reasonislam.wordpress.com/2...h-has-a-hand-but-its-nothing-like-our-hand-2/
JackieBurkhart
The years don't matter, the life in those years do
We don't agree on many things but she's right about anthropomorphism.it's funny when somali liberals believe for some reason asharis shafi muslims don't believe in shariah and that somalis were liberals before "evil saudi salafi preachers" came with the islamic law
From a geopoloitical perspective, Somalia recognising Israel makes sense. Not recognising Israel, doesnt change the fact Israel still exist. Why do you think all arab countries normalised relations with Israel. Even Palestine itself recognises Israel habibi
Also what can Somalia even do that changes anything? lol. Nothing will change if Somalia recognises it or not. Israel will continue to exist
Also the only thing thats holy is Masjid Al Aqsa
al-Mu'tamid المعتمد
عِشْ مَا شِئْتَ فَإِنَّكَ مَيِّتٌ
We say as Allah and his Prophet ﷺ said. Affirm the meaning in a real sense, without likening Him to His creation. Now I urge you to say the same or stay silent.In the Quran it clearly states
"لَيْسَ كمثلهِ شىءٌ وهوَ السَّميعُ البصيرُ"
This translated means, God does not resmble his creations in any shape. This ayah absolutely clears Allâh of resembling the creations. Therefore God does not have "arms, legs, shins". To even liken that to God is blasmpheous. Wahabis are the ones who liken God to his creations
Salafis also claim God exist on the Arsh. By claiming this, you claim God exist in a position and direction. Positions and directions are characteristics of the creations, and as stated above, God does not resemble the creations. In the Quran it says
« كان الله ولا مكان، وهو الآن على ما عليه كان »
This translated means, Allâh existed eternally and there was no place. He existed before creating the creation. He existed, and there was no place, creation, or thing. He is the Creator of everything.
God exist without a place, he is the creator of place. And the creator of place does not need his creations.
I employ all you to learn the deen properly before speaking
He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book: In it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:" and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding.
Qur'an - 03:07
Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, the servant may speak a single word for which he plummets into the Hellfire farther than the distance between East and West.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 6477, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2988
Thank you. I find it crazy how Salafis could even dare try to liken God to his creations and claim God has "arms, feet, shins". Aoothbillah, this is kufr. If one believes that they must say their shahadah.
God is the creator and the creator doesnt resmble his creations
Seriously, they can’t differentiate between Sharia/Fiqh and aqeedah. What differs between people who have an extreme outlook and those that doesn’t is how they interpret the Shariah and the Fatwas they accept.it's funny when somali liberals believe for some reason asharis shafi muslims don't believe in shariah and that somalis were liberals before "evil saudi salafi preachers" came with the islamic law
Like I said, this conversation is above their pay grade.
Believe what you want to believe, but calling Atharis Kafirs and stupidly thinking that someone’s aqeedah influences their level of extremism is unintelligent.
For the love of God stop throwing the word liberal around. It has lost all meaning when used willy nilly.it's funny when somali liberals believe for some reason asharis shafi muslims don't believe in shariah and that somalis were liberals before "evil saudi salafi preachers" came with the islamic law
I critise Salafis because of the kufr beliefs they have in which they try to liken God to his creations. This is kufr and should be refuted. Ashari and Maturid are Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jamaah and this is the belief of the majority of muslims and is correct
Salafis also known as Wahabis because they follow the teachings of Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahab are from the 17th century. Its quite literaally a sect from 17th century saudi arabia
I believe she is talking about salafis aqeedah not athari.
