Is Somalia a Salafi country?

Qeelbax

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You are assuming most all sunnis have any idea about these issues much less identifying with any group
It’s true most don’t but they learn their deen from their sheikhs and schools. Most Sunni scholars from the 3 madhabs I listed like 10 times are ashari or maturidi.

Some of y’all have a hard time accepting that.
 
Average Somali nomad will point to the sky when asked where is Allah (SWT). Make of that what you wish as did people like Imam Ibn Qudamah & even Ashari theologians!
 

Qeelbax

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Average Somali nomad will point to the sky when asked where is Allah (SWT). Make of that what you wish as did people like Imam Ibn Qudamah & even Ashari theologians!
Ask them to elaborate. Ask them if that means Allah swt isn’t everywhere? Everywhere includes the sky.

We can agree to disagree.
 

Gacmeey

Madaxweynaha Qurbo Joogta 🇸🇴
It’s true most don’t but they learn their deen from their sheikhs and schools. Most Sunni scholars from the 3 madhabs I listed like 10 times are ashari or maturidi.

Some of y’all have a hard time accepting that.
We are a majority (which is a dubious claim because of varying beliefs) is not a argument. The sahabah were much closer to the athari position than the ashari position which is to believe without asking how.
 
We are a majority (which is a dubious claim because of varying beliefs) is not a argument. The sahabah were much closer to the athari position than the ashari position which is to believe without asking how.
Thats not the athari position tho.
the athari position is to take it literally and at face value
 
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Yeah those talking points are the standard athari talking points I don't wanna get bogged down in aqidah but If I remember tomorrow or bother since I can't be bothered with this topic I'll send what I have written on the topic I just need to go through my notes and find it. I have it all in a lot more detail and fully explained but if you ask me it's a pointless discussion to have
 
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Yeah, my dad said he can't claim them considering how well they follow the Deen. I think Somalis most likely will follow Sufism again.

I have noticed the people who promote sufism on here usually have the most liberal takes generally.

It is almost like they think that sufism is a more liberal form of Islam and that is why they promote it. Yet it is dying out and unlikely to ever return, even with big governmental support from the west it has been unsuccessful.
 
Somalis are athari. Acudubillah Ashari kulaha, even the biggest tabglihi would spit on them. They’re halfway to ibadis.

Its such a bizarre claim from them, almost like they are never around Somalis, been to a predominantly Somali Masjid, or Somalia.
 

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I have noticed the people who promote sufism on here usually have the most liberal takes generally.

It is almost like they think that sufism is a more liberal form of Islam and that is why they promote it. Yet it is dying out and unlikely to ever return, even with big governmental support from the west it has been unsuccessful.

one of the top dogs of the aswj sufi group in somalia.

:faysalwtf:
 

JackieBurkhart

The years don't matter, the life in those years do
I noticed all these western kids being promoted into this sufism ting is mad and unexpected subhanallah may allah protect our plp
Anyone could tell you Somalis had plenty of Sufis back then. Al Shabaab will be cleansed and we will return to the right path of Shafi'i Sunnis.
 

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Anyone could tell you Somalis had plenty of Sufis back then. Al Shabaab will be cleansed and we will return to the right path of Shafi'i Sunnis. You can continue being pseudo gaals in the West.
you sound like a kid. but qadiriyya sufi scripts contain shirk. its 2023 we are in the internet age. shirk qadiriyya is dying in somalia
 

JackieBurkhart

The years don't matter, the life in those years do
why did you dislike my commet then? were on same page lol
You know the Sufis in Somalia are Shafi'i Sunnis, right? My whole family is Qadirriya Sufis, I don't understand why you people constantly slander Sufis. I observe Islam just like the majority of Somalis, and if you asked your older relatives, you'd find that we're normal.
 

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