Ilhan Omar: 'We must confront the hateful ideology of white nationalism'

Omar del Sur

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They also contributed greatly to science and humanities. In America, majority of them support racial equality and justice because they share a common future with other non-european americans in America.

Based on your line of argument, one can argue for the opposite and the Jewish people are inherently good because of members of their community having contributed greatly to the understanding of nature. If you point to someone's controbution and pin that to their ethnicity, then your method of judging people is not credible. Takes individual responsibility and for each human to be accountable for their sins out of the window. People can do good or bad and that would not be because of their race or ethnicity.

Does Allah judge human beings based on their race? Did Allah create an evil race or ethnicity? Do you have proof of any existing?

Where have I ever said Jewish people are inherently evil? I have never said such a thing.

Every baby is born upon the fitrah.

That Jews control the media is just a fact.
"Russians hacked the election!" is considered okay or to say "when the Allies fought the Germans" is considered okay but you say "the Jews" and people wanna make a big deal about it
 
I am waiting for her to admitt to the affair. I think her ex must be happy to be free from constant bad press and insults. Her kids will also have a chance to live an anonymous life because of the split of their parents. Living under constant bad press is negative.

I think this(the family split) works well for all parties. As far as her politics go, she is doing what liberal and democratic voters expect their reps to do. Represent the voiceless and raise important issues relevant to the environment, race, gender equity, pay, refugees and american openness. These are the reasons majority white folks in her disctirct voted for her along with somalis who saw a daughter of theirs running for higher office. Sure, many are disappointed in her alleged behaviour and personal conduct as a muslim woman. They have the right to feel that way. With that said, every democrat whom people vote for from the disctrict will be doing the same thing Ilhan is doing now as far as politics go.

Ilhan will be voted in possibly again because people generally hate Trump and Conservatives for their racial animosity among other bad causes they advocate for.

I am holding onto my judgement untill there is clear proof or she personally admitts she had an affair whilst married. Even then, I would see it as a human failure not unique to Ilhan. Anyone can fall short of their religious obligations.

Her being voted in in a small insignificant district is not a big deal. Both parties want her in now. Dems cause it's better one of them than rep and for the rep she is great tool to whip up the Base. Forget the affair......before that she ruined her future to get further by being decisive and too aggressive. As a rookie instead of laying low and working your way up. She brought a gun and basically aimed at everyone. She ruined herself imo.
 
Did the Jews also stick a dildo up your ass? You need to ho down on whatever you're reading online.

There's no point of debating them, you only have to look at /Pol/ on ***** to understand that.


It is good to debate on merits. People learn. Everyone needs to be saved including Omar. Why not?

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Her being voted in in a small insignificant district is not a big deal. Both parties want her in now. Dems cause it's better one of them than rep and for the rep she is great tool to whip up the Base. Forget the affair......before that she ruined her future to get further by being decisive and too aggressive. As a rookie instead of laying low and working your way up. She brought a gun and basically aimed at everyone. She ruined herself imo.


She is a firebrand politician for sure. Typical young american in politics who is not conservative. She used to make gaffes on twitter often. She may have heeded the advise lately and lays low. Haven't heard from her as I used to.

The old guard in both parties don't like yougner politicians changing the status quo. I personally prefer if everyone in congress was younger than 45 years old and no more old american gets voted into office. It would be good for America to have the younger generation set the policies.
 

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The Indian brigade on that tweet

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I despise Indians on the internet. I swear to god reading wherever they appear has to be the most unholy thing I've done. Just a train of Indians posting and dick sucking each other on Pakistan's soon to come major defeat.
 
She is a firebrand politician for sure. Typical young american in politics who is not conservative. She used to make gaffes on twitter often. She may have heeded the advise lately and lays low. Haven't heard from her as I used to.

The old guard in both parties don't like yougner politicians changing the status quo. I personally prefer if everyone in congress was younger than 45 years old and no more old american gets voted into office. It would be good for America to have the younger generation set the policies.

She has slowed down on twitter because she has been told of the dem leadership she was becoming a liability. She tried to go toe to toe with trump in a race to the gutter. He is a 70 year old white billionaire who is the president and has a whole party behind him.

As far as younger politicians. You seen the 32 year old white dem politicians who is bisexual and had relationship with 2 of her aide male and female while married. Also paid her aide money she wasn't supposed to. People in their 30s shouldn't hold high level political positions imo
 
Here is the source.

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- White 67.30 %
- Black(somalis included) 16.64%
- Asain 6.05%
- Hispanic 8.8%
- Native 1.23%

JazakAllah khair for the informative post. Minnesota's 5th Congressional District has a population of 708,000 people. Ms. Omar won the primary nomination for the Democrats with 65,238 votes out of 135,318 votes cast. The Somali population in Minnesota is 69,000 (some estimates are as high as 150,000), with more than 80% living in Minneapolis, i.e., within the 5th District. Even if only half of them (of the lower estimate of 69,000) voted for Ilhan Omar, she would still have over 34,000 votes and come in second-place for the nomination based on the conservative Somali population estimate alone; this isn't including other non-Somali Muslims who voted for her. On the flip side, had no Somalis voted for Ilhan, she would have come in third place and we would have never heard of her again.
Once she had the Democratic nomination secured, she was virtually guaranteed to make it to Capitol Hill as Minnesota's 5th Congressional District has voted Democrat since 1963 - Minnesota's 5th District has been described as the most Democratic district in the Midwest. For all intents and purposes, anyone would have won the race against the Republican candidate by default, ergo, her rate-limiting-step so to speak was obtaining the Democratic nomination, which she would have never achieved without the support of Minnesota's Somali community.

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2019/07/23/minnesota-somali-american-population-good-question/
https://iimn.org/publication/finding-common-ground/minnesotas-refugees/africa/somalis/
https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/how-ilhan-omar-won-over-hearts-in-minnesotas-fifth


As I've mentioned previously in this and in other threads, the rumours may very well be false and a smear campaign; furthermore, in our deen, we must assume a lady's innocence otherwise the accuser is liable to be punished for smearing a woman's reputation. From a secular lens however, the issue here is that Ms. Omar made bold statements in the past that have now come back to bite her and paint her as a hypocrite. She was a political newbie, a guppy in a tank of sharks in Washington, and she should have gotten a lay of the land first in order to further her agenda; instead, she chose to play martyr for Palestinians, and has now accomplished nothing except to make mindless fascists hate Somalis and other Muslims and African immigrants even more. Good luck ever having another Somali or hijabi elected to Congress ever again.
 
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This is common to all conservatives be they evangelical christians or devout muslims who are gullible. They somehow see a jewish hand behind everyday events. Evangelicals are racists so their hate the for the jew is race based(conveniently forgetting Jesus was a Jew). The muslim crew though are devout gullibles. We need to educate them about the dangers of racism and hating ethnic groups solely based on race. It is Unislamic.

You do know that Evangelicals are the biggest supporters of Jews right?
 
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JazakAllah khair for the informative post. Minnesota's 5th Congressional District has a population of 708,000 people. Ms. Omar won the primary nomination for the Democrats with 65,238 votes out of 135,318 votes cast. The Somali population in Minnesota is 69,000 (some estimates are as high as 150,000), with more than 80% living in Minneapolis, i.e., within the 5th District. Even if only half of them (of the lower estimate of 69,000) voted for Ilhan Omar, she would still have over 34,000 votes and come in second-place for the nomination based on the conservative Somali population estimate alone; this isn't including other non-Somali Muslims who voted for her. On the flip side, had no Somalis voted for Ilhan, she would have come in third place and we would have never heard of her again.
Once she had the Democratic nomination secured, she was virtually guaranteed to make it to Capitol Hill as Minnesota's 5th Congressional District has voted Democrat since 1963 - Minnesota's 5th District has been described as the most Democratic district in the Midwest. For all intents and purposes, anyone would have won the race against the Republican candidate by default, ergo, her rate-limiting-step so to speak was obtaining the Democratic nomination, which she would have never achieved without the support of Minnesota's Somali community.

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2019/07/23/minnesota-somali-american-population-good-question/
https://iimn.org/publication/finding-common-ground/minnesotas-refugees/africa/somalis/
https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/how-ilhan-omar-won-over-hearts-in-minnesotas-fifth


As I've mentioned previously in this and in other threads, the rumours may very well be false and a smear campaign; furthermore, in our deen, we must assume a lady's innocence otherwise the accuser is liable to be punished for smearing a woman's reputation. From a secular lens however, the issue here is that Ms. Omar made bold statements in the past that have now come back to bite her and paint her as a hypocrite. She was a political newbie, a guppy in a tank of sharks in Washington, and she should have gotten a lay of the land first in order to further her agenda; instead, she chose to play martyr for Palestinians, and has now accomplished nothing except to make mindless fascists hate Somalis and other Muslims and African immigrants even more. Good luck ever having another Somali or hijabi elected to Congress ever again.


Good post. We will see what happens. She performed at a rookie level for sure.

It is important we hold on to our judgement for lack of clear evidence as you pointed out. The Islamic way.
 
You do know that Evangelicals are the biggest supporters of Jews right?

Their support is like corralling the herd to the slaughter house. Their purpose is to use the Jewish people to prepare the return of Jesus by having them move to Israel then slaughter them with the help of Jesus.

Nothing more Savage

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They also contributed greatly to science and humanities. In America, majority of them support racial equality and justice because they share a common future with other non-european americans in America.

Based on your line of argument, one can argue for the opposite and the Jewish people are inherently good because of members of their community having contributed greatly to the understanding of nature. If you point to someone's contribution and pin that to their ethnicity, then your method of judging people is not credible. Takes individual responsibility and for each human to be accountable for their sins/successes out of the window. People can do good or bad and that would not be because of their race or ethnicity.

You present the same fallacious argument others who denigrade somalis present on this website.

Does Allah judge human beings based on their race? Did Allah create an evil race or ethnicity? Do you have proof of any existing?
For every 1000 people 999 will enter hell fire that’s a Hadith now imma ask u.. Is humanity bad coz a lot of people will enter hell??

Not all Jews are bad but majority are why coz they are squatting in an area their ancestors left in chains as slaves over 2000 years ago. Jews are a failed ummah sxb and the coming of Muhammad peace be upon him was proof of that. Jews were supposed to spread the religion of Moses to the nations but they got arrogant and Allah took their privilege of spiritual superiority and spread it to the nations. They hate u and your religion and will fight u, yet here u are defending them like your life depends on it. THEY FAILED ME AND U and most importantly themselves. They have done far more bad than good throughout history.
 
Their support is like corralling the herd to the slaughter house. Their purpose is to use the Jewish people to prepare the return of Jesus by having them move to Israel then slaughter them with the help of Jesus.

Nothing more Savage

:comeon:

I know that as well but the feeling is mutual with the jews.
 
For every 1000 people 999 will enter hell fire that’s a Hadith now imma ask u.. Is humanity bad coz a lot of people will enter hell??

Not all Jews are bad but majority are why coz they are squatting in an area their ancestors left in chains as slaves over 2000 years ago. Jews are a failed ummah sxb and the coming of Muhammad peace be upon him was proof of that. Jews were supposed to spread the religion of Moses to the nations but they got arrogant and Allah took their privilege of spiritual superiority and spread it to the nations. They hate u and your religion and will fight u, yet here u are defending them like your life depends on it. THEY FAILED ME AND U and most importantly themselves. They have done far more bad than good throughout history.


Prophet mohamed pbuh was also sent to the Jewish people saxib. His message remains universal as it was to the day he proclaimed prophethood. Jewish people are invited to join muslims still. Would Islam seek to invite inherently evil people? The prophet pbuh invited the jewish people in his city to Islam and some of them accepted his call like Abdullahi Ibnu Salam who was a Rabbi and Jewish scholar. Earlier muslims treated jewish people with respect and gave them the right to practice their religion if they opted to remain followers of Moses. As long as their community had no declaration of war on muslims, muslims did not violate the right of a jewish person in history out of religious hate or racial animus. Some of the jewish people were employed in Islamic kingdoms as artisans, engineers and librarians. They were ethnically no different from the Arabs except the outward jewish religious dress.

This idea that a jewish person is inherently evil is not Islamic. Same way a somali person is not inherently evil or a white person is not inherently evil. Let us be honest, we need to put race/ethnic goggles aside and purely judge everyone based on what Allah says ought to be the yardstick for judging people.

The jewish people have good and bad among them, just like everybody else. If you folks want to show how a jewish person is inherently evil, quote me the evidence from Islam. Let us see that.
 
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Prophet mohamed pbuh was also sent to the Jewish people saxib. His message remains universal as it was to the day he proclaimed prophethood. Jewish people are invited to join muslims still. Would Islam seek to invite inherently evil people? The prophet pbuh invited the jewish people in his city to Islam and some of them accepted his call like Abdullahi Ibnu Salam who was a Rabbi and Jewish scholar. Earlier muslims treated jewish people with respect and gave them the right to practice their religion if they opted to remain followers of Moses. As long as their community had no declaration of war on muslims, muslims did not violate the right of a jewish person in history out of religious hate or racial animus. Some of the jewish people were employed in Islamic kingdoms as artisans, engineers and librarians. They were ethnically no different from the Arabs except the outward jewish religious dress.

This idea that a jewish person is inherently evil is not Islamic. Same way as a somali person is not inherently evil or a white person is not inherently evil. Let us be honest, we need to put race/ethnic goggles asdie and purely judge everyone based on what Allah says ought to be the yardstick for judging people.

The jewish people have good and bad among them, just like everybody else. If you folks want to show how a jewish person is inherently evil, quote me the evidence from Islam. Let us see that.
Lol u are clueless. Which shows u rarely open the Quran if never. Arabs welcomed Jews when they were being prosecuted by the nazis yet look how they got repayed. Bombs and mass migrations. I will trust a Christian before I ever trust a Jew.
 

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Criticism of an elected official isn't sexism. Corrupt Somali sheikhs should be exposed. She won 65 000 votes in the 5th district. The Somali population is over 55 000 in Minnesota, of which 40 000 is in the 5th district, the overwhelming majority of whom voted for her. Voting data is obtained by pollsters in the US, not at the ballot. This isnt classified infirmation and is available on The New York Times, Politifact, and the Atlantic.
Lastly, pretty sure zinna is worse than not wearing a hijab. No one said she had to be perfect, but an affair if true is kind of a big deal if you present yourself as America's best known Muslim.

How did she present herself as America’s best known Muslim you idiot. You are just grabbing ‘facts’ out of your ass now.
 

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