I told you how Hassan Sheikh busied himself with travel to avoid Laascaanood issue.

Who are Reer GM who live in 100% of the region? Are they 1 or 2 tribes or are they the 11 tribes @ BidenKulaha mentioned. SSC is a local concept. When you look at it from a regional standpoint, The Dhulbahante tribe and their allies see the state being formed from Sool, sanaag & parts of Togdheer (CAYN) regions settled by the Dhulbahante, Harti, and Absame tribes.
how many clans that live in 100% of Galgaduud region of galmudug doesn’t matter. What matter is that it is a region that is fully under the federal state with every clan in the gobol on board. However with the case of SSC, neither Sool and Sanaag will be fully under the ‘SSC’ state. you have isaaqs that occupy good portion of both regions. Sanaag will basically be mudug 2.0.

My point is with your logic, SSC will be more illegal than GM because it doesn’t have one full region under its control let alone 1 and a half like Galmudug.
 
how many clans that live in 100% of Galgaduud region of galmudug doesn’t matter. What matter is that it is a region that is fully under the federal state with every clan in the gobol on board. However with the case of SSC, neither Sool and Sanaag will be fully under the ‘SSC’ state. you have isaaqs that occupy good portion of both regions. Sanaag will basically be mudug 2.0.

My point is with your logic, SSC will be more illegal than GM because it doesn’t have one full region under its control let alone 1 and a half like Galmudug.
There is no such thing as “more illegal”, you broke the rules for Galmudug that is all that matters. If SSC is to be under Puntland then Galmudug should be under Hiirshabelle.
 
how many clans that live in 100% of Galgaduud region of galmudug doesn’t matter. What matter is that it is a region that is fully under the federal state with every clan in the gobol on board. However with the case of SSC, neither Sool and Sanaag will be fully under the ‘SSC’ state. you have isaaqs that occupy good portion of both regions. Sanaag will basically be mudug 2.0.

My point is with your logic, SSC will be more illegal than GM because it doesn’t have one full region under its control let alone 1 and a half like Galmudug.

Sool region is Majority Dhulbahante. The isaaqs (Habarjeclo) only live in Caynaba which they occupied from the Dhulbahante tribe in 1922. 100 years later isaaqs still live in Caynaba and have not expanded Eastward even with the internal division of the Dhulbahante tribe itself.

Isaaqs in sool region is like Mareexaans in Galgadud they only inhabit 1 district on the far ends of the region. Isaaq in Caynaba and Marehan in Cabudwaaq. Sool is not contested tribally for that reason.

Sanaag region on the other hand is more diverse. The district is split between Warsangeli to the East, Habaryonis to the west and Dhulbahante to the south towards Sool. There are other tribes like the Geri & Absame who live with the Warsangeli & Habaryonis in Sanaag region.
 
There is no such thing as “more illegal”, you broke the rules for Galmudug that is all that matters. If SSC is to be under Puntland then Galmudug should be under Hiirshabelle.
The whole system is shambles sxb. Both SSC and GM don’t fit the rules so tbf everyone is free to do what they want. I already stated I support dhulbante making their own decisions for their lands. I just wanted to make a point that one won’t be more illegal than the other as the other user stated
 

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Your literally contradicting yourself. Dhulbante and warsangeli literally live in 60% of sool and 50% of sanaag Gobol wise. Reer GM live in 100% of one region and 60% of another. They’d both be deemed “illegal” by what you just said.

If anything GM at least consists of one full gobol (Galgaduud) whilst SSC doesn’t consist of one full region at all
Also Galmudug has two regional capitals under its control, Galkayo and Dhusamareb.

This hypothetical state wouldn’t even include Ceerigaabo. It’s a non stater and requires HY support otherwise it won’t cut it.

If it can at least control most of Sool and Sanaag and include the capitals of the regions then maybe if they’re lucky and get a FGS leader that is willing to support them like HSM did with GM.

As HG (can’t speak for all hawiye) and anyone who is anti-more darood states (Dir, RX as they’ll lose influence) we’ll be unlikely to support this therefore near impossible to get this to happen. Even if it were ‘as legal as GM’. HSM backed a GM (Sacad) war on PL to get PL to sign the papers when they were blocking it. We’re not going to see such a brazen move by future Presidents imo
 
Also Galmudug has two regional capitals under its control, Galkayo and Dhusamareb.

This hypothetical state wouldn’t even include Ceerigaabo. It’s a non stater and requires HY support otherwise it won’t cut it.

If it can at least control most of Sool and Sanaag and include the capitals of the regions then maybe if they’re lucky and get a FGS leader that is willing to support them like HSM did with GM.

As HG (can’t speak for all hawiye) and anyone who is anti-more darood states (Dir, RX as they’ll lose influence) we’ll be unlikely to support this therefore near impossible to get this to happen. Even if it were ‘as legal as GM’. HSM backed a GM (Sacad) war on PL to get PL to sign the papers when they were blocking it. We’re not going to see such a brazen move by future Presidents imo
U live and control one neighbourhood in Gaalkacyo out of 5, the destitute shithole Baraxley which is the smallest.
 
U live and control one neighbourhood in Gaalkacyo out of 5, the destitute shithole Baraxley which is the smallest.
then explain why Gaalkacyos federal votes are counted from GM and not PL? You got to Garowe for elections yet make claim of Gaalkacyo with supposed majority control. Beentaas orod ilmaha usheeg. Gaalkacyo is a GM federal city and federal votes prove that.
 
then explain why Gaalkacyos federal votes are counted from GM and not PL? You got to Garowe for elections yet make claim of Gaalkacyo with supposed majority control. Beentaas orod ilmaha usheeg. Gaalkacyo is a GM federal city and federal votes prove that.
Yo u only live in small
Neighborhoods of gaalkacyo 😂 don’t make me Laugh the city belong to darood
 
then explain why Gaalkacyos federal votes are counted from GM and not PL? You got to Garowe for elections yet make claim of Gaalkacyo with supposed majority control. Beentaas orod ilmaha usheeg. Gaalkacyo is a GM federal city and federal votes prove that.
Also Galmudug has two regional capitals under its control, Galkayo and Dhusamareb.

This hypothetical state wouldn’t even include Ceerigaabo. It’s a non stater and requires HY support otherwise it won’t cut it.

If it can at least control most of Sool and Sanaag and include the capitals of the regions then maybe if they’re lucky and get a FGS leader that is willing to support them like HSM did with GM.

As HG (can’t speak for all hawiye) and anyone who is anti-more darood states (Dir, RX as they’ll lose influence) we’ll be unlikely to support this therefore near impossible to get this to happen. Even if it were ‘as legal as GM’. HSM backed a GM (Sacad) war on PL to get PL to sign the papers when they were blocking it. We’re not going to see such a brazen move by future Presidents imo
Galkacyo Mayor doing World Tour, here he is meeting Minneapolis Mayor after going to the New York UN HQ for the Mayoral Conference.

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then explain why Gaalkacyos federal votes are counted from GM and not PL? You got to Garowe for elections yet make claim of Gaalkacyo with supposed majority control. Beentaas orod ilmaha usheeg. Gaalkacyo is a GM federal city and federal votes prove that.
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This is good great news Mashallah. Btw if i can message how can i start convos with users? or can you send me one if you can
I don't know bro, it seems that the messaging platform is locked for most users until the Moderator unlocks it or something.
 
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