I don’t find Siad Barre a bad person

Yes but they weren't any *somali* schools, or at the very least schools taught using an imperial language

Why are you downplaying education? Barre's regime is vastly better than the shithole state of Somalia today, tried controlling those damned apes
He was an imperial low ranking african officer serving Musolini. So what positive image would he add to a countries education system when he served Italy with all his heart and was willing to shed somali blood to please Musolini.

How can a bushman who served italians bring progress to Somalia? everything about him was fake. Fake patriotism kept on adopting alien philosophies like communism,Socialism,democracy facism,Christianity etc to stay in power.
He even killed wadaado.

Killed busineesmen, politicians, militarymen, innocent pastrolists, wadaado etc.

If you keep killing the brightest among the people that are the light bearers what are youleft with.

He promoted his illiterate incompetent kins as head of government in different sectors from Treasury to military and other civili service job his governance was based on nepotism, ignorance and arrogance.
 
He was an imperial low ranking african officer serving Musolini. So what positive image would he add to a countries education system when he served Italy with all his heart and was willing to shed somali blood to please Musolini.

How can a bushman who served italians bring progress to Somalia? everything about him was fake. Fake patriotism kept on adopting alien philosophies like communism,Socialism,democracy facism,Christianity etc to stay in power.
He even killed wadaado.

Killed busineesmen, politicians, militarymen, innocent pastrolists, wadaado etc.

If you keep killing the brightest among the people that are the light bearers what are youleft with.

He promoted his illiterate incompetent kins as head of government in different sectors from Treasury to military and other civili service job his governance was based on nepotism, ignorance and arrogance.
Qabil? You seem to hate this guy a lot lol
 
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I really don’t. I frantically do not care that he was a dictator, he did so much great for Somalia as a whole.

Those who disrespect him on a daily basis would never understand how much he means for other Somalis. He really gave us all a chance, not just certain groups but all of us.
Are you mx?
 

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Somalia was an authoritarian communist shithole under him. See every other communist shithole country. They all turn out the same
 
As someone who’s neutral in Somali affairs, it seems the worst of Barre is better than the worst of the things that came after him. Let’s be real.
 
As someone who’s neutral in Somali affairs, it seems the worst of Barre is better than the worst of the things that came after him. Let’s be real.

For your clan maybe. but he waged genocidal war on most of the Mudug and the most important community in the North
 
For your clan maybe. but he waged genocidal war on most of the Mudug and the most important community in the North
I’m not even talking in my clan voice so need to bring that up. I know what he did to my abtis but you’d hear majority of them say he was better than what came after and you can’t call that a genocide either. As for the north, I’m not trying to get into that debate.

I think it’s better to have a country where you can use the passport to go places than now where it’s literal trash.
 
post colonial world? come on he was a low ranking african colonial officer should have gone to Italy with his masters. Its better having an Italian ruling rather than they dabodhilifs.
He turned the country into a xoolo and xoolo like you beleive that we should have facists like him to further polarise a nation that needs healing.

He was a bushman and only belonged to the bush like his kins and not leading a country.

There you go. These are the people Siad Barre had to deal with and people are shocked he was heavy-handed. He was dealing with dogs.

It's a fundamental truth that in any nation-building process a certain demographic among the population will always be contrarian cretins that must be guided or otherwise silenced.

Of course, you would rather have an Italian rule over you. You're an Untermensch. A 2nd class unenlightened animal forever at the boot of Kenyans, Ethiopians, Westerners, - anyone with more than two pennies to rub together and the stomach to look at Somalis. Saxiibo, you do not need to wish for masters for you already have them.

Somalia came and died with Maxamed Siyaad Barre.
 

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He was a polarizing figure, technically no one is wrong because he did good things and tons of bad things. I am of the opinion that we should not discuss these matters until we fix our country :)
 

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He started his presidency on the wrong foot when he killed Sheikhs. He also specifically targeted certain tribes while favouring others. Somalia wasn't quite the picture of excellence when he was there unless one wants to romanticize it or compare it to long periods of statelessness.
 
There you go. These are the people Siad Barre had to deal with and people are shocked he was heavy-handed. He was dealing with dogs.

It's a fundamental truth that in any nation-building process a certain demographic among the population will always be contrarian cretins that must be guided or otherwise silenced.

Of course, you would rather have an Italian rule over you. You're an Untermensch. A 2nd class unenlightened animal forever at the boot of Kenyans, Ethiopians, Westerners, - anyone with more than two pennies to rub together and the stomach to look at Somalis. Saxiibo, you do not need to wish for masters for you already have them.

Somalia came and died with Maxamed Siyaad Barre.





You're the dog, kalabyahow. Maybe you should go join your Aabbo in his grave seeing as how distraught you are at his well-deserved death.
 

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