Homosexuality ? Sheikhs soo gala

[MI]

So individuals are not responsible to kill these homosexuals if they are seen in the act only the rulers?

Individuals cannot carry out hadd punishments unilaterally

 

[CaliTedesse]

Allah will take care of him and we are only here to serve Allah not to murder people or anything else.

If you see disbelievers or homosexuals leave them alone and Allah will take care of them.

Haye sxb of course that is my.approach markaa lakin what do we.muslims define as homosexual act seriously akhi?

 

[CaliTedesse]

Turkey is making it legal in households? That is definitely wrong.

I would assume it has to be proven and so I think they would have to be caught or possibly confess. There was the woman I remember who confessed to adultery and who was stoned (I assume there weren't four witnesses).

I'm not sure about the exact requirements as far as evidence. Wallahi I'm not an expert or anything like that.

Yes Turkey is lenient on homosexuals to a certain extent. But it's good to know that I as an individual am not required to sentence a homo only a ruler.

 

[CaliTedesse]

Individuals cannot carry out hadd punishments unilaterally

Sxb what is your approach to them mister Bosniak. You are Bosniak right?

 

[Veteran]

Haye sxb of course that is my.approach markaa lakin what do we.muslims define as homosexual act seriously akhi?

I believe that those who feel homosexual tendencies have not committed sin until they have actual sex with another man.

But this is very hard to define sxb, I cannot give you a clear strong answer.
but this is what I believe.

You just have to attempt to help them see the correct way.

 

[Omar del Sur]

Allah will take care of him and we are only here to serve Allah not to murder people or anything else.

If you see disbelievers or homosexuals leave them alone and Allah will take care of them.

well I think we have to distinguish between vigilant violence and hadd punishment carried out by the ruler.....

I mean if we as ordinary people are working at a store and we catch someone stealing, we can't just grab them, bring them to the back and chop off their hand.....

the hadd punishments have to be carried out by the ruler....

so I think we have to avoid both extremes

1- the extreme of saying the hadd punishments should not be carried out at all and wanting there to not be hadd punishments.....

2- the extreme of taking the law into our own hands

we have to be in the middle..... we can't say the hadd punishments shouldn't be carried out at all.... but we have to realize that the hadd punishments have to be carried out by the ruler... we as ordinary people can't just run around amputating people's hands

 

[CaliTedesse]

I believe that those who feel homosexual tendencies have not committed sin until they have actual sex with another man.

But this is very hard to define sxb, I cannot give you a clear strong answer.
but this is what I believe.

You just have to attempt to help them see the correct way.

Sxb of course wa lakin 2 men holding hands is not defined Islamically to be homosexuality right?

 

[repo]

Haye soo tuur cadeynta

 

[Omar del Sur]

Yes Turkey is lenient on homosexuals to a certain extent. But it's good to know that I as an individual am not required to sentence a homo only a ruler.

Yes, Wallahi it's not on us as ordinary people- it's not our responsibility- it's the ruler's responsibility

 

[Veteran]

well I think we have to distinguish between vigilant violence and hadd punishment carried out by the ruler.....

I mean if we as ordinary people are working at a store and we catch someone stealing, we can't just grab them, bring them to the back and chop off their hand.....

the hadd punishments have to be carried out by the ruler....

so I think we have to avoid both extremes

1- the extreme of saying the hadd punishments should not be carried out at all and wanting there to not hadd punishments.....

2- the extreme of taking the law into our own hands

we have to be in the middle..... we can't say the hadd punishments shouldn't be carried out at all.... but we have to realize that the hadd punishments have to be carried out by the ruler... we as ordinary people can't just run around amputating people's hands

They will be questioned in Judgement Day and we cannot do punishments on Allah's creation it's not our goal or mission we are here to only serve Allah.

 

[MI]

Sxb what is your approach to them mister Bosniak. You are Bosniak right?

I am not Bosniak you are thinking of @Molotoff
My approach to them is if I am in the west then nothing, it’s dar al kufr but if I am back home then

 

[Veteran]

Sxb of course wa lakin 2 men holding hands is not defined Islamically to be homosexuality right?

No but it is weird, just tell them not to embarrass themselves.

 

[CaliTedesse]

Yes, Wallahi it's not on us as ordinary people- it's not our responsibility- it's the ruler's responsibility

That is good wallahi then I don't have to worry about that stuff and I was right in Islam we the ordinary individuals leave them alone.

 

[Karim]

Couple of questions asked by the OP;
1. Bring forth the Hadeeths about killing Homosexuals.
I think @Omar del Sur already answered that question.
2. Should we just let them do their thing?!
Hell No. Cause degeneracy and vile unnatural sexual tendencies will spread in pious societies thus decaying the whole community.
3. Is holding hands a homosexual act?!
Plenty of cultures around the world embrace friendship in a manner unacceptable to ours but it's normal for them. We shouldn't be judgemental like that.

 

[Misil]

You don't get killed for being a homosexual, it's doing the act with the presence of witnesses that you get done for. Just like you don't get punished for being heterosexual, but for the act of zina. A person can be gay/straight laakin he should keep those desires in check till marriage which is of course for heteros only.

 

[CaliTedesse]

You don't get killed for being a homosexual, it's doing the act with the presence of witnesses that you get done for. Just like you don't get punished for being heterosexual, but for the act of zina. A person can be gay laakin he should keep those desires in check.

Balaayo kkkkkkkk

 

[Samira]

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[CaliTedesse]

Couple of questions asked by the OP;
1. Bring forth the Hadeeths about killing Homosexuals.
I think @Omar del Sur already answered that question.
2. Should we just let them do their thing?!
Hell No. Cause degeneracy and vile unnatural sexual tendencies will spread in pious societies thus decaying the whole community.
3. Is holding hands a homosexual act?!
Plenty of cultures around the world embrace friendship in a manner unacceptable to ours but it's normal for them. We shouldn't be judgemental like that.

Bro back to number ,2 what is our approach then?

 

[CaliTedesse]

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[MI]

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This guy is an actual retard uno