Saalax Bidaar
Truthfulness so often goes with ruthlessness
African wars are really disappointing. Of all the talk and holler in the media only about handful of People died.
HAYAAAAAY BREAKING NEWS: ETHIOPIA DEPLOYS ARMY INTO JIGJIGA, PUPPET ABDI ILEY THROWN IN JAIL
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Stop mention ONLF, they're truly a non factor in this issue. Iley made the whole region shake in one week than ONLF did in 30 years.
This showed that liyu police is more loyal to Iley than the ethiopian government. Iley resigning will only make the situation more difficult. Those 30k liyu police won't accept a puppet of Abiy
This showed that liyu police is more loyal to Iley than the ethiopian government. Iley resigning will only make the situation more difficult. Those 30k liyu police won't accept a puppet of Abiy
Saalax Bidaar
Truthfulness so often goes with ruthlessness
You can see by the military gears Abiy unleashed that they are not to be underestimated.
They are at least 40k.
This Harun fake news journalist annoys me. He thinks he's a specialist in everything. Dude tweeted about Indonesian earthquake and the Saudi/Canadian diplomatic rift.
During the world cup he tweeted BREAKING NEWS FRANCE WON THE WORLD cup, night we were all watching that game
Saalax Bidaar
Truthfulness so often goes with ruthlessness
They are very lightly armed. They don’t have enough fire power and I think it is by design. They are armed to put down civilians but not geared towards fighting the federal army
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I’ll take anyone in the Uk
I’m pissed
I’m pissed
They're lightly armed but that makes them very mobile. They are better equipped in an urban warfare than the conventional Ethiopian military. Tanks and heavy artillery is useless in an urban warfare. Check the battle of Stalingrad, the Russians succeeded in drawing the heavier armed Germans into the cities and made the war and close range fighting. The Germans all of a sudden were involved in knife fights.
But this is Africa, they'll surely disappoint us again.
Every state has its own militia called Liyu (special in Amharic) and it is directly under the command of the regional government. The idea is that this force will come to help the local police anywhere in that state before help from the federal government is requested. So no surprise that Liyu in Somali state is loyal to Abdi. That is the case everywhere.
They're lightly armed but that makes them very mobile. They are better equipped in an urban warfare than the conventional Ethiopian military. Tanks and heavy artillery is useless in an urban warfare. Check the battle of Stalingrad, the Russians succeeded in drawing the heavier armed Germans into the cities and made the war and close range fighting. The Germans all of a sudden were involved in knife fights.
But this is Africa, they'll surely disappoint us again.
The Liyu has no chance of facing the federal army, Abdi knew that and called them all to enter Jigjiga knowing well the Army would never fight them inside a city. The army has to leave otherwise the casualties and the destruction would have been beyond imagination. But even to hope the Somali kilil which is one of the states that is heavenly subsidized by the federal government for running its budget would fight and win the Federal Army is delusional. The state can't survive militarily and economically. It is better not to lose the sense of reality. Foolish patriotism and bragging won't last long, the harsh reality always shows up sooner or later. No state is in the position to defeat the federal army, not even Tigray state.
That is the Stupidest thing I've ever heard all week. You're right, Abdi Iley and his Liyu forces ofcoarse can't defeat the whole Ethiopian army. That's not what we're talking about.
Why do you think the Army decided not to fight or apprehend abdi iley and fight the liyu police, bc they didn't want animosity and further hatred by the Somali people. Invading jigjiga was already stupid enough but, attacking it's people and president in their capital city is another. That would have set off every Somali in and outside of Ethiopia, that is some derg shit that will not be accepted by anyone especially other states cuz it sets a precedent. And a full blown civilwar where civilians attack every Non-Somali and government institutions in DDSI would be too much for the already divided Ethiopian army to stop. And Abiy knew that very well
Abiy got outplayed by Iley and he failed the coup attempt and walked out of Jigjiga embarrassed empty handed with his tail between his legs.
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I was talking to people who are hoping to defeat the army and become independent even joining Somalia. I was talking to these kind of delusion. I fully agree with you the political damage is already too much and PM Abiy will be facing some hard questions in the next days. I also agree sending the Army to Jigjiga was a very stupid move. But I disagree with you that the coup attempt has failed. I don't think Abdi can continue further. He is done that is for sure but still the political price was very heavy.
Look I don't like Iley as much as the next guy, but when there is an outside threat, people forget about the qualms in the inside. If the Somali people, not Liyu or any administration, decide today that they'll fight and kick off every single Ethiopian representative and enforce their own laws. The central government can't do anything about it, you simply can't fight a population no matter how strong the army is.
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Good luck London
Yasmin is going to be sleeping
It’s going to be 33 Today
Yasmin is going to be sleeping
It’s going to be 33 Today
I agree with you but Abdi was exactly against anything free and democratic. Under him there was no possibility to even know the will of the people. And the new Ethiopian administration is determined to bring full democracy in Ethiopia including holding fully free and fair election in two years time. Everywhere in Ethiopia, even in TPLF stronghold Tigray, oppositions have started coming from exile and operating freely, medias are allowed to report and criticize freely, political prisoners are freed, torture of prisoners is now forbidden etc. But the Somali state is still stuck in the past and the dictator Abdi tries intimidating and attacking any oppostion and anything he sees is against him. This is unconstitutional and many Somali Elders were in Addis for months complaining that Somali state is left out of the current reforms that every Ethiopian is enjoying. This can't go on forever. You can't have freedom, democracy, free media and free elections everywhere but continue the one man dictatorship in Somali state.
Removing Abdi and bringing full democracy will give the Somali people a chance to air their true will and to elect their leaders freely. But with Abdi, we don't even know what the peoples' will is.
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Iley will probably resign. He is not the modern Sayid Muhamad. Gullible qabilists!
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