George Soros in 2014: Somalis in London one of "most culturally vibrant immigrant groups"

[Mohsin]

There's no such thing as Africa or Africans. It's just a fake modern concept created by the likes of academics and politicians. The people on the continent never really felt any real unity toward each other nor was it even historically spoken of as one wide region comprising a united people or a people who should be united. f*ck's sake, it's name just comes from a Roman Province. Even the concept of a continent is just some made-up pseudoscience and all Africa is would be a lump of rocks on this planet inhabited by a wide array of distinct peoples. See what I did there? But honestly, I'm getting a good feel for you now. You're quite the pseudo-intellectual, gotta say. Remind me of myself when I was like 18 but I was never quite this pseudo-intellectual.

But seriously, your idea of what Somalia ought to become is some centrally-planned Capitalist one-party dictatorship like Ethiopia? You really are a perfect example of what I spoke of in another thread:

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A simple-minded chap who sees big buildings & metros and thinks some sort of advanced society has been chanced upon, lol. I grew up in the Capitalist wet dream. A place that was, as they love to say, recently a fishing village and then became a jewel of the world and believe me; it's still a shithole and Ethiopia 50 years from now will be too. Just some garbage dump oligarchical states where only like 1-10% of the population truly lives freely and wealthy while everyone else is mostly a wage/salary slave. Sure, it's by far preferable to f*ck-holes like what Djibouti and Somalia are now but nothing to get your dick hard over and strive toward.

The best we can hope for under Capitalism is some sort of collection of Social-Democratic representative democracies but even they won't truly remove the sort of horrendous inequality Capitalism creates nor the grating need for constant work or even remove its corruption all that much. In fact, they'll suffer from the usual dipping population sizes that will require a constant injection of immigrants as a supplement to maintain pointless and seemingly endless economic growth unless you wanna end up like Japan or some shit. But of course, ending up like Japan is inevitable in this case if the entire continent and world develops and there are really no more immigrants as most of the world will be developed and people would just be migrating to the same living standards and economic conditions they just came from.

Read some actual economic, historical and cultural theory, mayne. Like, both right-wing and left-wing stuff. Actually try figure out the ideal society and stop being a generic white man's boot-licker by thinking you're enlightened cos you figured out the Qur'an might be made up and just accepting shit that's already proving to be horrendous in the West as the ideal to work toward because you have a dumb 3rd worlder mentality and automatically look at anything western as superior.

Capitalism = Slavery. You know Capitalism Pyramid ,only Rich people control every thing.

 

[Shimbiris]

Capitalism = Slavery. You know Capitalism Pyramid ,only Rich people control every thing.

Believe it or not, never entirely liked that particular pyramid. Kinda seems simplistic but it does get the point across. At the end of the day, Capitalism just replaces the Feudalist class with the Capitalist class and is superior to Feudalism for having a large middle-class and being able to raise the standards of living for all classes exponentially but it's ultimately the case that only a few people within it truly get to relax, not work and live truly freeing lives while the rest remain entangled in wage/salary slavery until their pointless little lives end.

Those same people who get to live truly comfortable as well as freeing lives are also the same people who overwhelmingly dominate politics for generations. Good on you for being wise to this sort of thing, Mohsin.

 

[Mohsin]

I want to establish Socialist party in Somalia. I need people who give more priority to their Political Ideology not their Qabiilo.

 

[Professor]

No, this individual changed his name to mama Ethiopia and called for Ethiopia to annex Somalia. Second, his separation ideas is very dangerous in term of security because of SL now we have other states calling for same thing. Third, certain people from SL joined al Shabab to destabilize Somalia. He is clear danger to more my country and people.

can u please stop attacking my character u old washed up prostitute. Why don't u allow those ethopians u are obsessed to tea bag u like usually. u fucking closet light skin obessed lesbian

 

[Mohsin]

Canuck

There are slums everywhere in the world, but Ethiopia is making strides for economic growth. On social media, a Somali clan builds a three story hotel in their tribal region and it is considered progress. why can't we aim higher and join Ethiopia?

So Why Ethiopians are begging in Somalia!

 

[SuldaanGuled]

I didn't mean religion as a whole, I meant Somali religion or Somali interpretation. We are very different from how we were 20 years ago, far more conservative and I just don't agree it is a good thing.

Waan gartay we're fallible beings so it's expected laakin we need to look at the context and the underlying reason as to why such a change has taken place. Religion as a way of life in our country was more of less repressed and regulated by a socialist elite who viewed religion as nothing more than a hindrance to enlightenment much in the same way europeans did. The difference was that somalis in general were religious people more so than their western countern parts.

After the war and the tribulation people went through religion became a significant part of their lives again only this time there wasn't any central government to oppose it until recent times. We're in difficult times as we face oppositions from many sides for most there doesn't a better alternative out there besides what you consider conservative might relative as it depends on your view and the measures that you judge by.


Initially i interpreted your statement to mean that religion isn't compatible with modern society a view only held by those who oppose religion, that's why i asked you if you were a muslim or not. Views like that are only applicable to religion specifically as it's a criticism of religion and not it's adherents or how it's practised that's why it seemed absurd at least from my perspective for a muslim to make such a comment. The only time such a view makes sense is when such a person isn't convinced about islam.

 

[XamarCade]

George Soros is that Jewish kid who got bullied in middle school and he's taking his anger out on European countries. The guy is literally changing demographics

 

[Canuck]

can u please stop attacking my character u old washed up prostitute. Why don't u allow those ethopians u are obsessed to tea bag u like usually. u fucking closet light skin obessed lesbian

Poor guy, finally you lost what felt from your brain kkkkkkkkkk. Small note SL wouldn't get any recognition.

 

[AussieHustler]

So Why Ethiopians are begging in Somalia!

Mohsin

These are you fellow Muslims 'Oromos' or is the concept of 'islamic ummah' invoked only for Arab issues?

 

[AussieHustler]

Sa'azana

No one has mentioned dictatorships and yet, you are determined to passionately advance socialist economic theories which depend on dictatorships to organise and implement it and that has been proven to fail the litmus test and the latest example was china. Somalis are naturally a capitalist mob and you have vilified that concept which is not perfect but proven to be better than all the theories tested, so sxb, is there any other economic theories that could plausibly work in Somalia?

Btw, I see the future wars in Africa now in progress and their infrastructure laid before our eyes and it will be between two fundamentalists, uncompromising and antagonistic religious sects, Islamic salafism and Christian evangelicals and we will be swept like a tsunami. The Future Jihad wars in africa.

 

[AussieHustler]

Says the guys who attacks islam. Take your own advice meeshan dagaal baan ku wada jirna cida tahay waad ogtahay ana sido oo kale.

SuldaanGuled

Sxb ceeydu ma fiicna, marka hore, yaa dagaalamayaa? I'm allergic to wars and weapons, bal aniga iga I saar, fadlan, aan idiin daawado adiga iyo Kaleel.

 

[SuldaanGuled]

SuldaanGuled

Sxb ceeydu ma fiicna, marka hore, yaa dagaalamayaa? I'm allergic to wars and weapons, bal aniga iga I saar, fadlan, aan idiin daawado adiga iyo Kaleel.

Waa ruunta caydu waa laga fican yahay laakin adiga iyo mulxidiinta kale meeshan ka buuxa hal meel baa iska wada raacden, tas na waa ina werarka aad ku haysin dadka muslimka iyo diintowda. Isweydi suuashaan maxaa kugu kalifaya inaad diinta islamka werar kuso qaadin ? miyeysaan ahayn diin nacayb ??

Qofka oo diintayda naceeb maxaa isku nahay ? cadow baan wada nahay, marki diinta kaa baxday ayaa walaaltinimada halkas ugu ee katay haseyeshe gaalku way kala baxaan kuwa waa dad oo anaan diinta waxba uu yeelin qarna waa adigu oo kale marwala werar ayaa diinta kuu haysa. Caqliga hadu kuu tusay inaad diinta ka baxdiid ee adigu ay ku taala laakin halkas ma kuu joojisid ?? waxaad rabtaa in anaga naga dhaacdhicisid wada aad racday waa mid saxsan diinteena wa mid khalaad ah laakin anaga waxba ka yeelimayno ileen way noo cadahay wadadada waa mid qaldan ee meel ma naga fadiisatid


Walaalka Kaleel waxba ma naga dhaxeeyo ileen si ficaan ayuu ii sharaaxay kalmadiisa ana sido oo kale baan sameyeey laakin adiga daan gaar leh ba laydahay, mid qarsaan ma ahaan

 

[AussieHustler]

Waa ruunta caydu waa laga fican yahay laakin adiga iyo mulxidiinta kale meeshan ka buuxa hal meel baa iska wada raacden, tas na waa ina werarka aad ku haysin dadka muslimka iyo diintowda. Isweydi suuashaan maxaa kugu kalifaya inaad diinta islamka werar kuso qaadin ? miyeysaan ahayn diin nacayb ??

Qofka oo diintayda naceeb maxaa isku nahay ? cadow baan wada nahay, marki diinta kaa baxday ayaa walaaltinimada halkas ugu ee katay haseyeshe gaalku way kala baxaan kuwa waa dad oo anaan diinta waxba uu yeelin qarna waa adigu oo kale marwala werar ayaa diinta kuu haysa. Caqliga hadu kuu tusay inaad diinta ka baxdiid ee adigu ay ku taala laakin halkas ma kuu joojisid ?? waxaad rabtaa in anaga naga dhaacdhicisid wada aad racday waa mid saxsan diinteena wa mid khalaad ah laakin anaga waxba ka yeelimayno ileen way noo cadahay wadadada waa mid qaldan ee meel ma naga fadiisatid


Walaalka Kaleel waxba ma naga dhaxeeyo ileen si ficaan ayuu ii sharaaxay kalmadiisa ana sido oo kale baan sameyeey laakin adiga daan gaar leh ba laydahay, mid qarsaan ma ahaan

SuldaanGuled

Walaal, marka hore, intaan hurdada ka soo kaco isma dhaho, bal manta, wax ka sheeg dadkaa cirka carash nin gianta ah fadhiya ka arkey, ee waa marka ay dadkaasi afka nala soo galaan oo na yidhaahdaan, diinta Moxamed ayaa kheeyr iyo barwaaqo keentay, ama waa diin nabad ah. Bal weeydii ISIS, Alshabab, Boko Haram and Salafis, runta baay kuu sheegayaan oo ku odhanayaan, nasan meeyno illaa aan dunida iyo dadka oo dhan ka dhigno Muslimiin, by peace or violence. Bal meey na dhaafaan? Haddii taasi laga hello, faraha ayaan ka qaadney odeygaa cirka fadhiya.

 

[SuldaanGuled]

SuldaanGuled

Walaal, marka hore, intaan hurdada ka soo kaco isma dhaho, bal manta, wax ka sheeg dadkaa cirka carash nin gianta ah fadhiya ka arkey, ee waa marka ay dadkaasi afka nala soo galaan oo na yidhaahdaan, diinta Moxamed ayaa kheeyr iyo barwaaqo keentay, ama waa diin nabad ah. Bal weeydii ISIS, Alshabab, Boko Haram and Salafis, runta baay kuu sheegayaan oo ku odhanayaan, nasan meeyno illaa aan dunida iyo dadka oo dhan ka dhigno Muslimiin, by peace or violence. Bal meey na dhaafaan? Haddii taasi laga hello, faraha ayaan ka qaadney odeygaa cirka fadhiya.

Bal iska arag waxaad ku hadlaysid ? nin gianta ah, odeygaa cirka fadhiya, aflagada miyeysaan ahayn ?? tayda kale maad ka doodiid marki reer galbeedka werarka iyo duqeeynta muslimiinta ay ku hayan ? Marki ayaga ku faafinayan dimuqradiga xabad iyo dagaal waa iska cadi , dhibaato maad uu aragtiid tas laakin hadi ay qusayso jabhaad ka tirsaan musliminta waad ka doodi sidas soo ma ahaan ? Ya dagaalka maanta waado ? ya bilaaway ?

Shaaqsi ahaan qof adiga ku weraray male ee haku marmarsiyoon alshabab, boko haram, salafiyinta etc ileen nacaybka aad diinta islamka uu qaabtid waa mid gaar ah oo anaan waxba ku lahayn qooxyada aad sheegtay. Ruunta iska sheeg

 

[AussieHustler]

SuldanGulef

Sxb, bal adiga maad arragtid sida mar waliba naloo caayo, marka hadalka qallafsan, labada dhinacba weey adeegsadaan. Tan kale, dunida siyaasadeeda looma arko caddaan iyo madaw ama gaal iyo Muslim. Waa waddamo heshiis wada galley inay la dagaalamaan argagixiso. Bal aan ku weeydiiyee, irhaabiga yaa ugu badan dadka ay dillaan? In Ka badan 95% waxay dillaan waa muslimiin adigoo kale oo ay aqoonsaneen muslimiin. Alshabaab iyo ISIS imise masjidyo oo Lagu tukanayo, suuq ay muslimiin Ka buuxaan, ardey qallin jebinayaan iyo macallimiintooda oo Somali ah isku qarxiyeen. Waddamadii muslimiinta iyo "gaalada" waxay galleen heshiis sida kii Mohamed la galley yahuudda Yathrib/Medina si ay isaga dhiciyaan dadkaan aad ku sheegteen Khawariij, marka waa ayo dadkaan sad Ka cabaneeyso ee laaya muslimiinta? Sxb, waad isku qasantahay ee indhaha fur.

 

[SuldaanGuled]

SuldanGulef

Sxb, bal adiga maad arragtid sida mar waliba naloo caayo, marka hadalka qallafsan, labada dhinacba weey adeegsadaan. Tan kale, dunida siyaasadeeda looma arko caddaan iyo madaw ama gaal iyo Muslim. Waa waddamo heshiis wada galley inay la dagaalamaan argagixiso. Bal aan ku weeydiiyee, irhaabiga yaa ugu badan dadka ay dillaan? In Ka badan 95% waxay dillaan waa muslimiin adigoo kale oo ay aqoonsaneen muslimiin. Alshabaab iyo ISIS imise masjidyo oo Lagu tukanayo, suuq ay muslimiin Ka buuxaan, ardey qallin jebinayaan iyo macallimiintooda oo Somali ah isku qarxiyeen. Waddamadii muslimiinta iyo "gaalada" waxay galleen heshiis sida kii Mohamed la galley yahuudda Yathrib/Medina si ay isaga dhiciyaan dadkaan aad ku sheegteen Khawariij, marka waa ayo dadkaan sad Ka cabaneeyso ee laaya muslimiinta? Sxb, waad isku qasantahay ee indhaha fur.

Waxaad sheegayssid waa maxaay ? argagixisada muslim kali miyaa ?? midkaan reer galbeedka wadan malaa ka hor istaago ?? bisinka kulaha waxay la mid tahay heeshiiska nabi lagalay yahuuda ?? Heeshiiskas wuu ka duuwnaa hadana isweeydi sabaabihi uu buurburay ?? banu quraysh ayey qusaysay ee khawariij ma ahayn.

Maa ka hadashiid xaq gudubka reer galbeedka iyo sida ay wadamada islaamayd uu buurburiyaan hadi ayaaga siyaasadowda la raacin ?? argagixiso ma ahaan tas ?? bal ii sharaax sida aad uu macnaysid kalmada argagixiso ??

Inta alshabab dileen iyo inta qabyalad darteed loo dilaay tee baa badan ? Wadamaada aad shaygaysid yaa maamuulo ? dad raasmi miyaa ? waa maya ? ee maxaa naga dhigaysa dad cadalad jaceyl ah oo daanta shacabkooda ilaalshoo ?? hadi caqli iyo raagnimo ku jirto dadkas gaalada bay ka hor istaagi lahayn mar hore ileen gaalka ayaa gumaysta oo maamuula dhuul kooda.

Indhahayga si balaaran ayey uu furaan yahiin cadowgayga si cad baan uu arka ee marmarsiyada beenta meeshan kuu wadiid iska dhaaf, cidna sirayssid ma lahaan.

 

[AussieHustler]

Waxaad sheegayssid waa maxaay ? argagixisada muslim kali miyaa ?? midkaan reer galbeedka wadan malaa ka hor istaago ?? bisinka kulaha waxay la mid tahay heeshiiska nabi lagalay yahuuda ?? Heeshiiskas wuu ka duuwnaa hadana isweeydi sabaabihi uu buurburay ?? banu quraysh ayey qusaysay ee khawariij ma ahayn.

Maa ka hadashiid xaq gudubka reer galbeedka iyo sida ay wadamada islaamayd uu buurburiyaan hadi ayaaga siyaasadowda la raacin ?? argagixiso ma ahaan tas ?? bal ii sharaax sida aad uu macnaysid kalmada argagixiso ??

Inta alshabab dileen iyo inta qabyalad darteed loo dilaay tee baa badan ? Wadamaada aad shaygaysid yaa maamuulo ? dad raasmi miyaa ? waa maya ? ee maxaa naga dhigaysa dad cadalad jaceyl ah oo daanta shacabkooda ilaalshoo ?? hadi caqli iyo raagnimo ku jirto dadkas gaalada bay ka hor istaagi lahayn mar hore ileen gaalka ayaa gumaysta oo maamuula dhuul kooda.

Indhahayga si balaaran ayey uu furaan yahiin cadowgayga si cad baan uu arka ee marmarsiyada beenta meeshan kuu wadiid iska dhaaf, cidna sirayssid ma lahaan.

SuldaanGuled

Sxb, marka hore wuxuu hadalka ku qurxoonaan lahaa haddii aad iiga jawaabto su'aalaha aan dusha kugu weeydiiye. Marka hore, dhibkaan argagaxisada, dawladaha iyo shacabka dhibka weeyn ku qabaan soo ma aha waddamada iyo shacabka Muslimiinta? Mise adiga umaba arragtid argagaxisnimo ee waxaad u arragtaa mujaahidiin la dagaalamaya Dawlado iyo shacab riddoobey? Ma dhinaca Alshabab iyo ISIS ayaa xigsaneeysaa?

Heshiiska uu Mohamed la galley Yahuudda Yathrib oo si gacmo furan dhulkooda ugu soo dhoweeye markii Mecca qabiikiisa iyo qaraabadiisa kaga soo ceeyrsadeen, kadibna, mindi dhabarka ka geshey dadkii dhulkooda ku soo dhoweeye, markale ayaan ka hadli doonaa, ee fadlan, bal iiga soo jawaab su'aalaha aan dusha kugu soo weeydiiye.

 

[SuldaanGuled]

SuldaanGuled

Sxb, marka hore wuxuu hadalka ku qurxoonaan lahaa haddii aad iiga jawaabto su'aalaha aan dusha kugu weeydiiye. Marka hore, dhibkaan argagaxisada, dawladaha iyo shacabka dhibka weeyn ku qabaan soo ma aha waddamada iyo shacabka Muslimiinta? Mise adiga umaba arragtid argagaxisnimo ee waxaad u arragtaa mujaahidiin la dagaalamaya Dawlado iyo shacab riddoobey? Ma dhinaca Alshabab iyo ISIS ayaa xigsaneeysaa?

Heshiiska uu Mohamed la galley Yahuudda Yathrib oo si gacmo furan dhulkooda ugu soo dhoweeye markii Mecca qabiikiisa iyo qaraabadiisa kaga soo ceeyrsadeen, kadibna, mindi dhabarka ka geshey dadkii dhulkooda ku soo dhoweeye, markale ayaan ka hadli doonaa, ee fadlan, bal iiga soo jawaab su'aalaha aan dusha kugu soo weeydiiye.

Dhuudhumashada aad igu wadiid iga dhaaf fadlan, koow waxaa laga rabaa inaad soo sharaaxdid erayga argagixiso ? Waxaan arka daan gaar ayaa haysata aniga maa doonayi in aan kugu taagero daantada. Amisom, reer galbeed iyo amxaaro side ay ku dhacda in ayaga argagixiso noqon laakin AS noqota ?? Shacabka soomaliyeed miyeysaan diil iyo kufsi gaalo uu gaysan ?? hadi dowlad meesha ka jirto maxay wax uga qaban waye arintaan ?? Dowlada aad shagaysid waxay halis ku tahay daanta shacabka soomaliyeed ee waxa kale iska dhaaf. Aygaa daantooda bay wataan ma ahaan daanti umada soomaliyeed.

AS, dowlada sheegatada ah , amisom, reer galbeed kuligood waa argagixiso waa iskakay mid aniga, waxaa oo kaliya oo kala sooca waa habka iyo awooda ay kala layahiin. Yahuudi balantaa ayey ka baxeen sidas darteed wixii kuu dhacay ayaga isku keenay taasna dood kuma jirto.

Soo sharaax mise soo macnay erayga argagixiso hortaa tas baa waxa kasta ka muhimsan.

 

[AussieHustler]

Dhuudhumashada aad igu wadiid iga dhaaf fadlan, koow waxaa laga rabaa inaad soo sharaaxdid erayga argagixiso ? Waxaan arka daan gaar ayaa haysata aniga maa doonayi in aan kugu taagero daantada. Amisom, reer galbeed iyo amxaaro side ay ku dhacda in ayaga argagixiso noqon laakin AS noqota ?? Shacabka soomaliyeed miyeysaan diil iyo kufsi gaalo uu gaysan ?? hadi dowlad meesha ka jirto maxay wax uga qaban waye arintaan ?? Dowlada aad shagaysid waxay halis ku tahay daanta shacabka soomaliyeed ee waxa kale iska dhaaf. Aygaa daantooda bay wataan ma ahaan daanti umada soomaliyeed.

AS, dowlada sheegatada ah , amisom, reer galbeed kuligood waa argagixiso waa iskakay mid aniga, waxaa oo kaliya oo kala sooca waa habka iyo awooda ay kala layahiin. Yahuudi balantaa ayey ka baxeen sidas darteed wixii kuu dhacay ayaga isku keenay taasna dood kuma jirto.

Soo sharaax mise soo macnay erayga argagixiso hortaa tas baa waxa kasta ka muhimsan.

SuldaanGuled

Sxb, waxaad isku bar-bar dhigi Tufaax iyo Canab. Ujeedadaana waa qallad Somalida, ugu danbeeyntiina ha u qaataan inay argagixisada Alshabaab ka fiicantahay Dawladdaasi tabarka yar iyo taageerada at ka hesho dunida kale oo isugu Jira 'gaal' iyo Muslim.

Ma argagixisada qarxisey Hotel Shamo oo ay dhalinyarro Somaaliyeed, ehelkooda iyo macallimintooda ku qallin jebinayeen qarxiye ayaa la meteli kartaa Dawladda? Waa ardey shan sanadood baranayeen dhaqtarnimo si ay wax u tarraan dadkooda iyo dalkooda.


Ma argagixisada qarxisey ciyaal isugu yimid inay hellaan natiijada scholarships to Turkey, s waddankooda iyo dalkooda wax ugu soo bartaan ayaa ku matili Dawladda?


Argagixisadii qarxiyeen Safaaradda Turkiga oo Soomalida inay caawiyaan u imaadeen ayaa garrab dhigi Dawladda?


Sxb, dishonest ayaa tahay, ma qabiil baa kaa guuxaye oo la rabtaa dadkaasi in la halaago? qarraxyada manta waa caadi muqdishu, ayaa wadaa?


Amisom is not perfect but they liberated most of Mogadishu iyo nawaaxiyaheeda ee manta u suurta gellisey inay Turkiga dhisaan Muqdisho, nabbadna at ku soo noqotey magaaladaasi. Runta weey kaa qarsantahay.

Tan Yahuudda Yathrib iyo Mohamed, ujeedadiisa waxay ahayd inuu dhulkooda billiliqeeysto and that is what he did. Marka, caadi iska dhig.

 

[Canuck]

Mohsin

These are you fellow Muslims 'Oromos' or is the concept of 'islamic ummah' invoked only for Arab issues?

Oromo lost their card when they burnt Somalis alive in 2005 and forced them to register Oromo(they were hawyie who later fled to Afar lands). Second, Oromo had took 30 districts from K5 in peace agreements with K5. They are not our brothers but our enemies who will slide with their habashi masters against Somalis.