If you look at my posts, did I insult this man? Did I not say people should refrain? I’ve said that multiple times and outlined that in my first post.
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That is why you’re looking at my likes like you’re shaaqo l’aan simply because you know I have refrained from insulting this man throughout my posts.
I’ve literally wrote in my post saying we don’t know this man’s specific situation, hence I’m going to look at the situation on a
general perspective.
I gave them likes because despite my disagreement with them going personal, I too believe that back home, men marrying multiple women with hardly any money is common and I’ve seen it with my own eyes and how it causes issues in the community. I agree with their sentiment that’s it an issue but not insulting him or arguing it’s the number one cause of poverty in Somalia but it definitely
fuels poverty.
I agree with this notion:
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Bringing new wives when in abject poverty is indeed abusive towards women and children which Is why it’s haram for very poor men to remarry. I 100% agree with the sentiment. Only disagreement is that I don’t know the specific situation of that dugsi teacher which is why I don’t agree with insulting him, but agree with the
general message.
Why does the idea of women thinking it’s terrible for very poor men to remarry irritate you? Especially when that goes against the rules of poly?
Again, it was the sentiment regarding the issues of poverty fueling poverty. I stand by that but I never insulted the man or believe that polygamous men are the sole cause of poverty since Somalis issues with poverty is vast.
But I 100% stand by my sentiment that poor poly men increase poverty even more for women and children.
I know deep down you have issues with that view as well, which is why you keep on arguing with you and making it about polygamy in general rather than understanding this is a specific issue of being poor and polygamous.
That has always been my sentiment and I highly doubt she believes they’re the number one cause. She’s arguing they fuel it. We all know factors like tribalism, corruption and the like are a bigger factor, but the mentality for me is the same, it’s all due to shortsightedness.
I did respond, unlike you I respond to everything and made it clear that single motherhood, poor men having multiple women ect does indeed fuel poverty and you have the AA community as proof. I acknowledged and answered it. I don’t know why you’re lying Authobillah.
Yes, because it’s your stupid point of one cannot talk about poor people in poly relationships because the vast majority of the nation is monogamous. It’s akin to saying we can’t talk about the orphaned, the single mothers and the list continues.
You could have easily have said:
Whilst poor poly men do indeed fuel poverty due to limited resources, they’re not indeed the actual causes for the majority of the nation since the vast majority of Somalis are monogamous. Hence other factors that are greater are clearly at play.
If you said that, I would have 100% agreed and given you a thumbs up. But what did you do? Proceeded to minimize the issues of poor poly relationships.
What’s my subjective view? That poor men shouldn’t be polygamous? That’s a standard view you should be having. If you aren’t minimizing the issues of poor men and poly why question me? You clearly have an agenda and lowkey believe that a man in a tin house with kids all sleeping in one room, should be free to marry extra. If you don’t believe that, how are my claims outlandish?
I’ve said multiple times, we don’t know this guys backstory hence why I never insulted him.
Your whole point was whataboutism. Your whole point is, but there are more poor monogamous families, hence we can’t talk about poly poor families and we can use that useless argument in nearly every debate to derail.
Because I agree with her overall sentiment. Poor men should not be in poly relationships. It’s a simple as that. You clearly disagree with that sentiment.
I know for a fact that even If I was incredibly specific in this thread from the get go and said that poor men in polygamous relationships fuel poverty and increase it, you’d still argue with me. It’s only after I tipped your logic to the head when you tried to add in the tragic what about ‘monogamous men’ stick that you started to claim that you’re now arguing against the idea Somalia is poor due to poly men. I’ve never argued that point since there are many reasons by Somalia is poor. But there is definitely a link between poor poly marriages and an increase in poverty and I stand by that and I’ve always argued that.
Women in mono relationships aren’t poorer because of monogamy, but poly women do become poorer as their already small finances stink even more. That’s why men have to be to afford it Islamically and the whole time you were questioning this by saying ‘what about mono men’. THAT is my issue with YOU.
