Ethiopian messing with Adal's Wikipedia page. Removing somalis

[HabarSteven12]

Stop crying. Imam Ahmed and the leaders before him and after him from Hobat all the way to Aussa Imamate were Somali. Harar in its essence is a Somali settlement and later you had Ethio Semites like yourself migrate to it. You have the most authoritative Harari scholars like Ahmed Sami say this. This guy had several European institutions ask him to give information about Harar and it’s entire history. This guy gave 8 abtirsi of the imam to Takle Sadiq Mekuria who is regarded to be the most authoritative Amharic historian and Haile selassi’s right hand man. Mekuria writes about all Ethiopian History including Axum and Nubia. Mekuria is taught in univerisities in Addis, Amharas who have studied the book mention the historian Mekuria is one of their biggest countrys treasure, he refused a CIA offer to retire in the US when Mengistu took over.

This is the status of the great Ahmed Sami you are arguing against . It shows that you are emotional and upset about everything.

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The Malassay were Somali even Germans know this.

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Merid Wolde Aregay who earned his masters in education from harvard University associated the malasay elite force with Ethio-semetic speaking Muslims. Malasaay were hararis. Dont try to deny historical fact sxb

 

[HabarSteven12]

Zelia is Somali. The capital of early Adal and Ifat.
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Zeila was never historically a Somali city. It was a city ruled by Semitic speakers. The majority of the inhabitants of Zeila were arabs from Yemen. The Ruiling class of the Adal sultante constructed a huge wall with five gates in Zeila to keep the Somali nomads out. It wasn't until after the fall of the Adal sultante the Somali nomads were able to enter the ancient city. The dir nomads came to Zeila around the late 15th century. Zeila was historically ruled and inhabited by arabs from Yemen.

 

[NidarNidar]

Zeila was never historically a Somali city. It was a city ruled by Semitic speakers. The majority of the inhabitants of Zeila were arabs from Yemen. The Ruiling class of the Adal sultante constructed a huge wall with five gates in Zeila to keep the Somali nomads out. It wasn't until after the fall of the Adal sultante the Somali nomads were able to enter the ancient city. The dir nomads came to Zeila around the late 15th century. Zeila was historically ruled and inhabited by arabs from Yemen.

LMAO Zeila is so old it had another name in antiquity, it was called Avalites.

"Zeila is an ancient Somali city and has been identified with what was referred to in classical antiquity as the town of Avalites, situated in the erstwhile Barbara geographical region on the northern Somali coast. Along with the neighboring Habash (Habesha or Abyssinians) of Al-Habash to the west, the Barbaroi or Berber (ancestral Somalis) who inhabited the area was recorded in the 1st century CE Greek document the Periplus of the Erythraean Sea as engaging in extensive commercial exchanges with Egypt and pre-Islamic Arabia. The travelogue mentions the Barbaroi trading frankincense, among various other commodities, through their port cities such as Avalites (modern Zeila). Competent seamen, the Periplus' author also indicates that they sailed throughout the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden for trade. The document describes the Barbaroi's governance system as decentralized and essentially consisting of a collection of autonomous city-states. It also suggests that "the Berbers who live in the place are very unruly," an apparent reference to their independent streak.[1]"

 

[Step a side]

This guy is 100% Harari

 

[HabarSteven12]

This guy is 100% Harari

Ethio-semitic speakers formed the dominant section of the Adal population. Arab faqih who accompanied Imam Ahmed in most of his battles mentions that Somalis didn't even constitute half of Imam Ahmeds army lol. Arab faqih makes it clear that the "Sedentary agriculturalists population of harar provided both the leadership in the jihadic war and that they were majority of the fighters." I know all this information is to overwhelming for you. Somalis had nothing to do with the Adal, Ifat, Showa, Walashma empires.

 

[Khaem]

Ethio-semitic speakers formed the dominant section of the Adal population. Arab faqih who accompanied Imam Ahmed in most of his battles mentions that Somalis didn't even constitute half of Imam Ahmeds army lol. Arab faqih makes it clear that the "Sedentary agriculturalists population of harar provided both the leadership in the jihadic war and that they were majority of the fighters." I know all this information is to overwhelming for you. Somalis had nothing to do with the Adal, Ifat, Showa, Walashma empires.

This gotta be a troll.

 

[HabarSteven12]

This gotta be a troll.

Somalis need to stop making absurd and laughable claims. Wallahi I am being serious. You guys are embrassing us all over social media. Adal sultanate has nothing to do with Somalis. Imam ahmed has nothing to do with Somalis.

 

[Step a side]

If Malasaay was somali what does the term mean in af Somali? You see how foolish you sound. Malasaay was the elite infantry unit that formed the Adal sultante. The entire malasaay elite unit was comprised of harari infantry. The term malasaay means solution in the harari language. Many reputable harari scholars such as Abdurrahman Qorram, Mohamed Hassan and Dr Duri Mohamed mention that the harari ethnic group constituted the majority of the Malasay elite force. You are once again demonstrating confirmation bias and purposely taking things out of context to suit your distorted narrative. You obviously didn't read any of the books written by the great scholar Ahmed-As-Sami. If you did you would know that Imam Ahmed wasn't Somali. Opinions held by some scholars in the past doesn't amount to empirical fact or evidence. Learn the difference between a opinion and established fact. You are just selectively taking things out of context and not showing the full picture.

Malasay is an old term, in Somali it was called Miisanlaay which means the heavy patrol. Ahmed Sami himself identifies the Imam from the Futuh with a lineage tree to prove it.

The lineage tree is literally captioned as the work of Shami and the Futuh. There is a point mentioning the term Harari in context of the Futuh since Harari and Oromo came into existence at the same time. Prior to the Gurey wars both were negligent in history.

 

[silentshimbir]

Somalis need to stop making absurd and laughable claims. Wallahi I am being serious. You guys are embrassing us all over social media. Adal sultanate has nothing to do with Somalis. Imam ahmed has nothing to do with Somalis.

you're just spamming this thread with your bullshit, either a habash or those landers who hate Somalis so much they do anything to discredit their own ethnicity, just for itaraf

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

Somalis need to stop making absurd and laughable claims. Wallahi I am being serious. You guys are embrassing us all over social media. Adal sultanate has nothing to do with Somalis. Imam ahmed has nothing to do with Somalis.

It's honestly embarrassing to say Somalis had nothing to do with the Adal sultanate when Somalis were mentioned more than the people of Harla in Futuh Al-Habesh.

 

[HabarSteven12]

Malasay is an old term, in Somali it was called Miisanlaay which means the heavy patrol. Ahmed Sami himself identifies the Imam from the Futuh with a lineage tree to prove it.

The lineage tree is literally captioned as the work of Shami and the Futuh. There is a point mentioning the term Harari in context of the Futuh since Harari and Oromo came into existence at the same time. Prior to the Gurey wars both were negligent in history.

Sxb you are full of . There is no point in engaging with you if you are going to misuse historical information to advance your deeply held belief. You are often intellectually dishonest despite overwhelming evidences that shows Imam Ahmed wasn't Somali. Malasay is not an old Somali term. Malasay and miisanlaay have no correlation what's so ever. Just because words sound similar doesn't mean they are related or share the same meaning. Wallahi go read some books then come back to me. You are a pathological liar.

 

[HabarSteven12]

you're just spamming this thread with your bullshit, either a habash or those landers who hate Somalis so much they do anything to discredit their own ethnicity, just for itaraf

I am not a lander nor a habesh. I am stating the truth. Imam Ahmed wasn't Somali. He was harari. Ethio-semitic speakers formed the dominant section of the Adal population. Arab faqih who accompanied Imam Ahmed in most of his battles mentions that Somalis didn't even constitute half of Imam Ahmeds army lol. Arab faqih makes it clear that the "Sedentary agriculturalists population of harar provided both the leadership in the jihadic war and that they were majority of the fighters." Somalis had nothing to do with the Adal, Ifat, Showa and Walashma empires.

 

[LEThimCOOK]

Sxb you are full of . There is no point in engaging with you if you are going to misuse historical information to advance your deeply held belief. You are often intellectually dishonest despite overwhelming evidences that shows Imam Ahmed wasn't Somali. Malasay is not an old Somali term. Malasay and miisanlaay have no correlation what's so ever. Just because words sound similar doesn't mean they are related or share the same meaning. Wallahi go read some books then come back to me. You are a pathological liar.

Honestly stopped reading when he claimed Amir Nur was Hawiye without providing a source.

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

I am not a lander nor a habesh. I am stating the truth. Imam Ahmed wasn't Somali. He was harari. Ethio-semitic speakers formed the dominant section of the Adal population. Arab faqih who accompanied Imam Ahmed in most of his battles mentions that Somalis didn't even constitute half of Imam Ahmeds army lol. Arab faqih makes it clear that the "Sedentary agriculturalists population of harar provided both the leadership in the jihadic war and that they were majority of the fighters." Somalis had nothing to do with the Adal, Ifat, Showa and Walashma empires.

when did Arab Faqih state those things?
you can repeat the same paragraph a billion times, everyone that read Futuh al habesh knows somalis were among the elite Adali fighters. Historians generally agree Imam Ahmed he was closely connected with Somalis. it's one thing to say Imam wasn't Somali it's another to claim Adal or Ifat had nothing to do with Somalis.

 

[giire12]

you're just spamming this thread with your bullshit, either a habash or those landers who hate Somalis so much they do anything to discredit their own ethnicity, just for itaraf

I am lander, there is no way a lander will speak like that about adal sultant in that manner, you can know where a person is from by the style of his writing. His contradicting himself, sometimes he say, "Somalis need to stop making absurd and laughable claims". He should be saying we need to stop making absurd and laughable claims. He uses words such as sxb, wallahi, "Wallah I am Somali. Aad baad u waalan tahay sxb". Notice, Aad baad u waalan tahay sxb is too formal and we somalis speak informal known in arabic af suuqi. He either translated from google or is an oromo/harari speaking somali. Also have you noticed he said wallah rather than wallahi, even somali fish and chips say wallahi, we say wallahi, oromo and harari say wallah. He claims to be somali but his style of writing exposed his true identity.

 

[silentshimbir]

I am not a lander nor a habesh. I am stating the truth. Imam Ahmed wasn't Somali. He was harari. Ethio-semitic speakers formed the dominant section of the Adal population. Arab faqih who accompanied Imam Ahmed in most of his battles mentions that Somalis didn't even constitute half of Imam Ahmeds army lol. Arab faqih makes it clear that the "Sedentary agriculturalists population of harar provided both the leadership in the jihadic war and that they were majority of the fighters." Somalis had nothing to do with the Adal, Ifat, Showa and Walashma empires.

Sedentary agriculturalists population of harar called the harla were somali , there closest related tribe meerhan , afar aussa chronicles details the xarla and their descendants , their history and their linages. you can look into oral history of the natives in the lands and , European historians record that the xarla where somali agriculturist .

 

[giire12]

I google translated English to Somali "you are very crazy", the translation word by word was priceless @HabarSteven12 guess what come up.

 

[mahfuz]

Malasay is an old term, in Somali it was called Miisanlaay which means the heavy patrol. Ahmed Sami himself identifies the Imam from the Futuh with a lineage tree to prove it.

The lineage tree is literally captioned as the work of Shami and the Futuh. There is a point mentioning the term Harari in context of the Futuh since Harari and Oromo came into existence at the same time. Prior to the Gurey wars both were negligent in history.

Melesay is clearly ethio-semitic, Infact the first time the term malasay was ever mentioned was in reference to Muslim gafats who helped yekuno amlak overthrow the zagwes (if u don't know gafats were a mostly pagan ethiosemitic speakers from western ethiopia)

 

[mahfuz]

Sedentary agriculturalists population of harar called the harla were somali , there closest related tribe meerhan , afar aussa chronicles details the xarla and their descendants , their history and their linages. you can look into oral history of the natives in the lands and , European historians record that the xarla where somali agriculturist .

The harla were ethiosemitic speakers and the ancestors of the hararis,siltis and zay people, if u have any doubts look at the personal names of harla people like Dil wenbera,del seged,Dil merrah,wagan,qecchin, gamis,.... All of them are ethiosemitic and still used by modern descendants of harlas
Also the futuh clearly seperates between harlas and somalis so...

 

[mahfuz]

I am not a lander nor a habesh. I am stating the truth. Imam Ahmed wasn't Somali. He was harari. Ethio-semitic speakers formed the dominant section of the Adal population. Arab faqih who accompanied Imam Ahmed in most of his battles mentions that Somalis didn't even constitute half of Imam Ahmeds army lol. Arab faqih makes it clear that the "Sedentary agriculturalists population of harar provided both the leadership in the jihadic war and that they were majority of the fighters." Somalis had nothing to do with the Adal, Ifat, Showa and Walashma empires.

U must have not read the futuh