Egyptian President calls Somalia a Failed State in front of President HSM

[Riftvalley]

The bigger shame is 10k Ethiopian troops you can't expel and your only hope is being insulted by Egypt as a classic example of a failed state.Warning his Egyptian people to not follow the footsteps of Somalians

HSM has failed, neither Ethiopia or SL is budging

Delusions of grandeur.

 

[Abdisamad]

Those weren't insults but facts. 30 years of conflict and we're stronger than ever with debt relief and the arms embargo lifted. In contrast, your entire "army" has been defeated by clan militias made up of ciyaalka xaafada forcing you to now claim oromo's all in the span of one year.

The biggest traitor was farmajo who considered our eternal enemy ethiopia allies, who used them to kill somali citizens in baydhabo and planned to give them 4 ports with military bases in each of them so spare us the fake patriotism when you accuse xassan of being slow to react or complicit in this whole episode.
By the way the maritime court case was initiated by xassan himself.

You'll just end up in mud fight comparing who's adeer is more patriotic and fantastic, might even lose few braincells in the process.. It better to focus on the issue at hand than engaging in stupid fkd.

 

[IKHALIIL]

You'll just end up in mud fight comparing who's adeer is more patriotic and fantastic, might even lose few braincells in the process.. It better to focus on the issue at hand than engaging in stupid fkd.

Just pointing out the treasonous one LOL

 

[Cartan Boos]

what humiliating about this, he is not wrong somalia is failed state

 

[Abdisamad]

Just pointing out the treasonous one LOL

There's no point in highling that sxb.. All our uncles are more less corrupt and lack/lacked vision for our people and nation, otherwise our nation wouldn't have been in this condition.. So it's totally waste of time arguing with each other who's uncle is the most corrupt and who's not lol.. Hope you get the point..

 

[Zak12]

It’s going to happen. Ethiopia knew what would be the response before announcing. They probably ran it by the major powers before hand. U.S is a building a military base in Somaliland they probably gave the green light. All these countries have to repeat that they respect all member states territorial integrity but since the UN was established many new nation have been born and will be born in the future. Viva Somaliland.

Even if Ethiopia and the U.S. knew before hand, it doesn't necessarily mean the U.S. is supporting them since Ethiopia is Russian aligned. Abiy doesn't have a pro U.S. position at all and America always had a one Somalia policy so there is no reason for them to suddenly be okay with the deal.

Somalia (which includes Somaliland) was one of those many nations that were established since the UN so I don't see your point. Its extremely rare for a new country to be formed in the post-WW2 order let alone one formed by seceding. Look at Africa. There are so many secessionist movements all across the continent yet none of them are successful or supported by the AU or UN because that would mean upsetting the colonial borders. The only reason South Sudan and Eritrea managed to become independent is because their host countries Sudan and Ethiopia agreed to a referendum to allow independence. Unless Mogadishu does the same then Somaliland will never be recognized because its legally seen by the UN as apart of Somalia.

 

[Garaad Awal]

what humiliating about this, he is not wrong somalia is failed state

The failed state needs to stop begging for people to respect their non-existent sovereignty. You think Sisi doesn’t know that HSM can’t fly to Hargeisa without being apprehended by local authorities? That’s as if Sisi couldn’t visit Alexandria the second largest city in his country. Stop the embarrassment

 

[Abdisamad]

Even if Ethiopia and the U.S. knew before hand, it doesn't necessarily mean the U.S. is supporting them since Ethiopia is Russian aligned. Abiy doesn't have a pro U.S. position at all and America always had a one Somalia policy so there is no reason for them to suddenly be okay with the deal.

Somalia (which includes Somaliland) was one of those many nations that were established since the UN so I don't see your point. Its extremely rare for a new country to be formed in the post-WW2 order let alone one formed by seceding. Look at Africa. There are so many secessionist movements all across the continent yet none of them are successful or supported by the AU or UN because that would mean upsetting the colonial borders. The only reason South Sudan and Eritrea managed to become independent is because their host countries Sudan and Ethiopia agreed to a referendum to allow independence. Unless Mogadishu does the same then Somaliland will never be recognized because its legally seen by the UN as apart of Somalia.

The funny thing is many of us Somalis wouldn't even mind if Somaliland seeked to hold a refendum for seccesion after the country settles, every region should've the opportunity to vote, like awdal ssc etc and depending on the percentage they could decide to either join somalia or become independent.. But here we have people so hostile to the Somali name that they would even sell their grandparents to get away from the rest of Somaliweyn and not alone that but they want to subjugate and force others to accept their way, in what world is this kinda behavior acceptable? And now even selling the sea to Ethiopia to endanger the rest of the Horn as well as all countries with interest in the red sea. Wa dad walaan..

 

[Garaad Awal]

Even President Museveni (Dictator of Uganda) humiliates the Somalian as a nation incapable of having an army loyal to their state but loyal to their foreign donors. African heads of state continue to humiliate the President of Somalia

 

[angelplan]

There is nothing wrong with what he said. Should be a warning to not only Egypt but all Muslim countries. It is very hard to regroup and restart from scratch after civil war and pandora box has been opened. Important to keep your political différences without endangering the security and continuation of the state or the nation. This is not an insult towards thé somali président. Just stating the hard cold truth.

 

[El Nino]

The failed state needs to stop begging for people to respect their non-existent sovereignty.

This is what SL has done for 30 years nikka kkkk

 

[Zak12]

The funny thing is many of us Somalis wouldn't even mind if Somaliland seeked to hold a refendum for seccesion after the country settles, every region should've the opportunity to vote, like awdal ssc etc and depending on the percentage they could decide to either join somalia or become independent.. But here we have people so hostile to the Somali name that they would even sell their grandparents to get away from the rest of Somaliweyn and not alone that but they want to subjugate and force others to accept their way, in what world is this kinda behavior acceptable? And now even selling the sea to Ethiopia to endanger the rest of the Horn as well as all countries with interest in the red sea. Wa dad walaan..

The only chance Somaliland had at being a UN member state was back in the 90s and early 2000s when there was literally no government at Mogadishu. They should have lobbied hard for recognition because Somalia pretty much stopped existing during that period yet they didn't and instead sat around twiddling their thumbs while Somalia was slowly recovering and started rebuilding diplomatic ties with the rest of the world. They blew their biggest opportunity and now Bixi is getting desperate since the Las Anod conflict went horribly for him. Yet he still doesn't understand that gaajo irrelevant Ethiopia potentially recognizing Somaliland doesn't mean they will be a UN member nation since the U.S., France, U.K, China and Russia have to do the same.

 

[Abdisamad]

There is nothing wrong with what he said. Should be a warning to not only Egypt but all Muslim countries. It is very hard to regroup and restart from scratch after civil war and pandora box has been opened. Important to keep your political différences without endangering the security and continuation of the state or the nation. This is not an insult towards thé somali président. Just stating the hard cold truth.

I fully agree. Anyway since you're a stuff member I have a question.. You see we have many anti Somali people on this section who would go in great lengths to make accusations and make proganda to harm the Somali nation, with this in mind and the fact we have so many both internal and external enemies, isn't it about time we regulate the place a little bit better?

 

[Jiron]

Somalia should serve as a cautionary tale to the rest of the world and our might to rise again as an example of our true resilience. The Somali spirit is a flame that can never be extinguished.

thank you mr president for doing everything in ur power to save our nation

 

[Step a side]

There is nothing wrong with what he said. Should be a warning to not only Egypt but all Muslim countries. It is very hard to regroup and restart from scratch after civil war and pandora box has been opened. Important to keep your political différences without endangering the security and continuation of the state or the nation. This is not an insult towards thé somali président. Just stating the hard cold truth.

There is even a Hadith about it. It’s a agianst Islam to rebel against your leaders. You have to bare patience with them so long as they don’t force you to commit kufr, shirk etc

 

[Abdisamad]

The only chance Somaliland had at being a UN member state was back in the 90s and early 2000s when there was literally no government at Mogadishu. They should have lobbied hard for recognition because Somalia pretty much stopped existing during that period yet they didn't and instead sat around twiddling their thumbs while Somalia was slowly recovering and started rebuilding diplomatic ties with the rest of the world. They blew their biggest opportunity and now Bixi is getting desperate since the Las Anod conflict went horribly for him. Yet he still doesn't understand that gaajo irrelevant Ethiopia potentially recognizing Somaliland doesn't mean they will be a UN member nation since the U.S., France, U.K, China and Russia have to do the same.

I understand, but wallahi I don't even mind them getting ictiraaf, but it has to be done through a referendum in a fair and justice manner, then we can sign them off if that's what the people of the regions under SL vote for... But look at how they're behaving trying to tarnish the collective Somali name and god knows what else thinking this will give them ictiraaf.

 

[enda_el]

Do you think the deal is dead simply because Sisi insulted your President? The same Sisi that threatened Ethiopia's dam and couldn't stop them from unilaterally filling the dam despite Egypt complaining to the West & the US?

Deal is going ahead which is why HSM is desperate enough to get humiliated in Cairo cause both Ethiopia nor SL has backed away from the deal despite the "pressure" from your Western masters

its not going through man. keep coping. especially since you promised to give them a naval presence. who the f*ck wants another power to influence such an important corridor. low IQ. not even ethiopias chinese daddy wants that. we all will be dead before somaliland gets recognized. might as well get active in somalia again and stop the tantrum.

 

[RiceMuncher]

what humiliating about this, he is not wrong somalia is failed state

This guy doesn't care about truth or why Somalia got itself in this predicament. The same xabasho he's bootyclapping for made sure of that. He doesn't care about that and just wants to banter ee hit us with the pic of the so called General your youth got hold of.

 

[Chase]

There is nothing wrong with what he said. Should be a warning to not only Egypt but all Muslim countries. It is very hard to regroup and restart from scratch after civil war and pandora box has been opened. Important to keep your political différences without endangering the security and continuation of the state or the nation. This is not an insult towards thé somali président. Just stating the hard cold truth.

Tbf the only people that should be feeling insulted is HAG, real talk.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

The only chance Somaliland had at being a UN member state was back in the 90s and early 2000s when there was literally no government at Mogadishu. They should have lobbied hard for recognition because Somalia pretty much stopped existing during that period yet they didn't and instead sat around twiddling their thumbs while Somalia was slowly recovering and started rebuilding diplomatic ties with the rest of the world. They blew their biggest opportunity and now Bixi is getting desperate since the Las Anod conflict went horribly for him. Yet he still doesn't understand that gaajo irrelevant Ethiopia potentially recognizing Somaliland doesn't mean they will be a UN member nation since the U.S., France, U.K, China and Russia have to do the same.

Somaliland tried but was told wait until Mogadishu is back on it's feet.

Now Mogadishu is back, in a way, with heavy dose of international funding and clout it seeks to assert itself over it's old territories through destablization - finanicial, miliatary and political. The same social chaos that destroyed the government is reflected in the political machinations of it's elite.

The people that came out of the long civil war it seems did not retain much sense or pragtism. Not enough to accept that Somalia cannot hope attain the aspiration that once had of regional dominance or that it must deal sensibly with it's monumental challenge of internal security instead prancing around on international stages it doesn't belong on .

Somaliland is still taking things slowly. Ethiopia didn't come alone. Ethiopia has development partners and military partners who have approved the deal. The security arrangements and economic arragnements alone will take Somaliland firmly out of Mogadishu's sphere of destablization and into a more productive, sensible business minded space.

I don't think Somaliland is aiming for a UN seat.