Do you guys agree with chunks?

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Yes. I am comparing hitler to a person who has known that he has a Lord and creator and has forsaken him. I am comparing hitler to Satan and his ilk.

Either way the premise stays the same. Argue the premise not the analogy. Would you continue to love and care for your child if he did something you thought was heinous?
The premise isn’t the same. You’re comparing a psycho, mass murderer to someone who doesn’t believe in religion. Islam really does make people lose their common sense wtf
 

Gacmeey

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The premise isn’t the same. You’re comparing a psycho, mass murderer to someone who doesn’t believe in religion. Islam really does make people lose their common sense wtf
No that’s not the premise that’s the analogy.

The premise was clearly stated. Forget about Hitler for a second, would you continue to love and care for your child if they did something you thought was heinous?
 

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No that’s not the premise that’s the analogy.

The premise was clearly stated. Forget about Hitler for a second, would you continue to love and care for your child if they did something you thought was heinous?
Leaving a religion isn’t something heinous. The fact that you even compared that to giving birth to hitler is crazy
 

Gacmeey

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Leaving a religion isn’t something heinous. The fact that you even compared that to giving birth to hitler is crazy
Leaving the one true ‘religion’ is absolutely heinous. The whole purpose of your creation was to worship your creator. He gave you life and trusteeship over his creation and yet your rebel against him with complete arrogance and at times even denying him. I don’t see anything that is graver than that. 🤷‍♂️
 

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Your kids aren't an extension of you, they are their own person and will make they own choices plus think differently from you, if you can't accept that and love them regardless then you shouldn't have kids, I agree with the guy.

Nope. He needs to learn what “unconditional” means. I will always make my home a safe space, no matter the differing views.

People who make this argument are incredibly low IQ or just flat out liars.

Even both of you I guarantee are willing to disown your children given the right circumstances.

It's just a matter of how extreme you think their views and actions are before you see fit to disown them.

This standard you place is completely arbitrary and dependent on the individual.

If your child told you he will turn into a c0on for some racist nazi party because he believes he is inferior and is willing to tolerate anything that group does to him (by anything I mean ANYTHING). you would disown your child. Obviously this isn;t to say you would try to help them and guide them, but once they become adults and show no sign of changing you would give up on them and wouldn't tolerate their actions.

To a muslim, leaving islam is one of the worst possible sins you can commit as you willingly put yourself to eternal damnation and is no different than the aforementioned example. This is why I think your take is completely low IQ because you people struggle to think past your own perspective.

Why would any muslim (someone who believes in god and the afterlife) ever be willing to enable their child in completely throwing away their eternal afterlife for the sake of the dunya. Even if you are not muslim yourself, you cannot seem to think from that perspective?
 

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Leaving the one true ‘religion’ is absolutely heinous. The whole purpose of your creation was to worship your creator. He gave you life and trusteeship over his creation and yet your rebel against him with complete arrogance and at times even denying him. I don’t see anything that is graver than that. 🤷‍♂️
Being religious is no different from being insane tbh
 

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Stop worrying about the same right wingers who would disown their children for dating a black
They’re hypocrites but that doesn’t mean saying controversial things openly is okay especially during a time were anti-immigrant sentiment is really high. Racists literally trawl the internet searching for content like this
 

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I'd do the opposite. I'll treat my culture and deen like it's all mine and some cool shit they're not welcome to participate in. "No, you go hangout with ajanabi friends, son. We don't like your kind at the Mosque, you bloody oreo." he'll get deeply insecure and Islam will be a forbidden fruit for him. He'll self salafize without even knowing it.

Chess Win GIF by BabylonBee
 

Gacmeey

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And you say religious people are the insane ones 🤣🤣

I look at you the same way I look at a person who says that a full loaded cargo sailed from china to America with no captain and no crew. The cargo loaded it self and knew how to sail by itself.
 

Gacmeey

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Disowning your child and making hitler comparisons does make you insane, yes
You are being disingenuous. I was only making the Hitler comparison to show that even you have a line that if crossed, would result in you disowning your child. After that was the topic. If you would disown your child, you shouldn’t have kids
 
People who make this argument are incredibly low IQ or just flat out liars.

Even both of you I guarantee are willing to disown your children given the right circumstances.

It's just a matter of how extreme you think their views and actions are before you see fit to disown them.

This standard you place is completely arbitrary and dependent on the individual.

If your child told you he will turn into a c0on for some racist nazi party because he believes he is inferior and is willing to tolerate anything that group does to him (by anything I mean ANYTHING). you would disown your child. Obviously this isn;t to say you would try to help them and guide them, but once they become adults and show no sign of changing you would give up on them and wouldn't tolerate their actions.

To a muslim, leaving islam is one of the worst possible sins you can commit as you willingly put yourself to eternal damnation and is no different than the aforementioned example. This is why I think your take is completely low IQ because you people struggle to think past your own perspective.

Why would any muslim (someone who believes in god and the afterlife) ever be willing to enable their child in completely throwing away their eternal afterlife for the sake of the dunya. Even if you are not muslim yourself, you cannot seem to think from that perspective?
Comparing someone agreeing with a nazi party and allowing them to inflict whatever they want on them to having a different opinion in regards to religion is ridiculous. Leaving a faith isn't equivalent to supporting or committing harm, ofc everyone's standard is different the point is that I disagree with your standards. And like I said you can believe your children is going down the wrong path religiously but to reject and disown them is insane. it's not like I don't understand your perspective, I just disagree with it. Anyways I don't want to start an argument, you're entitled to your own opinion, as am I, have a nice day.
 
I'd do the opposite. I'll treat my culture and deen like it's all mine and some cool shit they're not welcome to participate in. "No, you go hangout with ajanabi friends, son. We don't like your kind at the Mosque, you bloody oreo." he'll get deeply insecure and Islam will be a forbidden fruit for him. He'll self salafize without even knowing it.

Chess Win GIF by BabylonBee
That reminds me of a Jamaican revert who said he would have reverted 10 years earlier but the Pakis kept telling him it’s their culture when he asked about wudu
 

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That reminds me of a Jamaican revert who said he would have reverted 10 years earlier but the Pakis kept telling him it’s their culture when he asked about wudu

They were scared he'd become Muslim and marry one of their sisters. Damned raysiists.

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