Do you consider yourself to be a feminist and why?

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I don't think there is a significant gender wage gap between men and child-free, unmarried women in metropolitan cities, especially those represented in higher-paying, often male-dominated occupations. And there is a lesser-known phenomenon of a reverse gender gap. Young women that are child-free and unmarried in some regions in the US (often highly populated urban cities) can have median incomes higher than their male peers. However, you still see fewer women in (software development, tech, and finance). You don't see many women in commodities, securities, or financial investment firms in finance. I know people that work for large asset management firms that say the work environment is abusive (it's not uncommon to hear the utterances of expletives/curse words). You feel like a workhorse, where some women switch careers upon getting married/having kids.
 

Omar del Sur

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1. Yes, the definition of something generally is the meaning of that thing is

2. Abortion and sexual liberation are a small part of the feminist movement. Stuff like equal pay, ending sexual harassment etc is much more important.

1 THE definition in some absolute, metaphysical sense and the GOOGLE definition are not necessarily the same thing. Google is not some objective apolitical entity. Feminism in real life and feminism according to google are two different things.

2- umm... that is just simply not true. unless you're living in one of those parallel universes I've heard about, abortion and "sexual liberation" are pretty big parts of feminism- as it actually exists in real life.

as for the rest of the post, I didn't read.

edit: wait actually I did scroll past something like.. if Jezebel represents feminism, couldn't al qaeda and isis be said to represent Islam... no, that does not hold at all... Jezebel is popular, mainstream feminism.... al qaeda and such groups are not mainstream Islam.

also you can determine what is orthodox, correct Islam by referring to Quran and sunnah. there is no feminist Quran and sunnah. so that is a big difference if you wanted to compare the two... but it's weird to want to compare them. Islam is divine and infallible and has unchangeable scripture. feminism is a modern human-made movement without any set scripture.
 
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why would a guy be a feminist, no way.
another stereotype
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I think I have identified as a feminist (discovering the ideology at 16 and accepting it) from a young age say 13. When I started to notice that men and women are very different. My mom rarely asked me to help me in the kitchen, she asked other stuff me to clean and take care of my younger brother’s school work, .. etc. Whenever, brainwashed Habaryars came around they would always brag about being able to cook, clean the whole iftar or suhoor dishes for the whole fam at 8-10 and some other weird stuff. They told me if you keep playing computer games and do not enter the kitchen, how will you marry? Even my western Somali friends were surprised, I feel pressurized to be naaq nool, I expressed disdain at all those lectures that I was being told by older women, I hated it. I do not like the gender roles that’s why? I can’t imagine my whole life being a servant and I don’t need mehr or anything, why it will make me a worse wife or a mom?i don’t know why there are stereotypes against feminists. And I don’t go around screaming “I am a feminist” and I don’t hate men. I agree with the definition, that’s it.
Uh… did we live in the same household ? I remember once taking a nap after a long day at work… and the aunties were complaining about how shameful it is for a woman to take a nap and how that may affect your future husband once your married… I’m like why ? And they said you don’t take naps no more once your married cause that’s a sign of laziness… when I just worked a 7-3 shift at a factory assembly line.

I don’t hate men either and Im like you only agree with the definition of it.
But I do acknowledge the system does cater to women a lot, especially the family court systems and how marriage once over really screws men over at times, ( we can get into that )… the core values of feminism has been lost… the overall message of it is super important but it’s now been tainted.
 
Uh… did we live in the same household ? I remember once taking a nap after a long day at work… and the aunties were ing about how shameful it is for a woman to take a nap and how that may affect your future husband once your married… I’m like why ? And they said you don’t take naps no more once your married cause that’s a sign of laziness… when I just worked a 7-3 shift at a factory assembly line.

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The solution is somewhere in the middle, I think. We definitely have issues within our society - where some of them are harmful to women, but at the same time the causes championed by atheist and other gaalo women shouldn't be used as guiding principles for Muslim women.
 
No, because it can be extreme at times for example some women going into clinics to create a whole family by herself or women walking around almost naked sleep with men here and there. I do believe in equal rights no man is better than a women nor are women better than men Allah mentions as equally in the Quran. I am aware that a lot of cultures hate women due to patriarchy.
 

Periplus

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Define "equality" mr.leftist

Equality is having any disadvantages or advantages cancel out, creating a state of balance.

Men have advantages and disadvantages in Islam. Women get advantages and disadvantages also.

Their roles balance out to be equal importance but not identical roles.

Equal =/= Identical
 

JohnCena

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Uh… did we live in the same household ? I remember once taking a nap after a long day at work… and the aunties were complaining about how shameful it is for a woman to take a nap and how that may affect your future husband once your married… I’m like why ? And they said you don’t take naps no more once your married cause that’s a sign of laziness… when I just worked a 7-3 shift at a factory assembly line.

I don’t hate men either and Im like you only agree with the definition of it.
But I do acknowledge the system does cater to women a lot, especially the family court systems and how marriage once over really screws men over at times, ( we can get into that )… the core values of feminism has been lost… the overall message of it is super important but it’s now been tainted.
You might be the most logical user I've met here.

You're opinions on every topic is spot on.
 
I believe in Islamic feminism, equality based on our religion.

I see men and women equal under the eyes of Allah SWT. As far as I’m concerned, the definition of feminism is the equality of genders in general.

That doesn’t conflict with my beliefs
Beating around the Bush

What's next?
I believe in Islamic communism ?
I believe in Islamic capitalism?
I believe in Islamic LGBTQ-ism?


You are arguing like the Muslim red pillers who changed red pill to fit islam , so when they were checked about it they say they don't support anything that's haram,kufr from red pill, only the halal part.
 

Periplus

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Beating around the Bush

What's next?
I believe in Islamic communism ?
I believe in Islamic capitalism?
I believe in Islamic LGBTQ-ism?


You are arguing like the Muslim red pillers who changed red pill to fit islam , so when they were checked about it they say they don't support anything that's haram,kufr from red pill, only the halal part.

In fact, I’ll argue that those that refuse to see my point about Islam and feminism having at least some common points are the same ones that use Islam to justify red pill.
 
I don't think there is a significant gender wage gap between men and child-free, unmarried women in metropolitan cities, especially those represented in higher-paying, often male-dominated occupations. And there is a lesser-known phenomenon of a reverse gender gap. Young women that are child-free and unmarried in some regions in the US (often highly populated urban cities) can have median incomes higher than their male peers. However, you still see fewer women in (software development, tech, and finance). You don't see many women in commodities, securities, or financial investment firms in finance. I know people that work for large asset management firms that say the work environment is abusive (it's not uncommon to hear the utterances of expletives/curse words). You feel like a workhorse, where some women switch careers upon getting married/having kids.
You might be the most logical user I've met here.

You're opinions on every topic is spot on.
Thank you kind sir. I know that each of us women here can have different opinions but it’s all about being able to freely express them.


I just try to be fair when it comes to any topic without bashing anyone.
 
In fact, I’ll argue that those that refuse to see my point about Islam and feminism having at least some common points are the same ones that use Islam to justify red pill.
Since you have no problem with Islamic feminism you should have no problem with Islamic red pill-ism :samwelcome:


Thats why muslim akademics already spoke out against the red pillers even when they hide behind "I only support Islamic red pill"

its a big fitna & they'll use the examples people like you to justify their islamization of whatever ideology comes next.
 

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