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VixR

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I think you’re suffering from a sort of cognitive dissonance whereupon the Jewish contributions in the physical sciences are apparent and readily obvious, where Jews are effortlessly assigned credit, but when their contributions to the social sciences are invoked then they are not the prime movers even though that’s equally apparent. I think we can agree that if it’s not antisemitic to discuss one, it cannot be antisemitic to discuss the other. Isn’t it funny how we all know about Einstein, but very few know about Hirschfeld or the Frankfurt School, even though their contribution is massive to the culture of today?

My motivations for speaking about this doesn't truly matter either, only if I’m correct or not. Also even if we disregard the institute for sexology, which I really don’t think is a small matter considering how inundated we are with things that concern precisely the type of research that was going on in inter-war Germany, which is no coincidence either. The intellectual work started by German Jews was continued by both French, English and American Jews in the post-war period. The papers contained in that institute were the bulk of the papers burned in the infamous Nazi book burnings.

The Germans elected the Nazis precisely because they didn’t like the way Germany was going socially, they didn’t like the museum of Sex, they didn’t like Marxist theory in both the cultural and economic realm, they didn’t like degeneracy. The National Socialist or Völkisch movement was counter-culture to the disgusting and pervasive Jewish intellectualism of the time and I do think we’re due a repeat in the West, the signs are there, and that’s why it’s important to understand it. The West essentially committed the same mistake as Germany after the First World War.

So understanding why exactly the Nazi government disliked Jews is of great importance to us today, especially us Muslims, because many of us struggle with understanding the social climate of the West and how it came to be. Many of us make the mistake that technological progress in the West had gone hand in hand with the West’s dislike for tradition, authority both within and outside of the family, the so-called sexual liberation, perverse sexual inclinations, social egalitarianism; but then I tell them that it was a process that started in Weimar Germany and only really caught up in the rest of the West in the sixties and the events of WWII start making sense to them. If you understand it like the National Socialists did, then you can resist it.

You like the culture of the West so of course you don’t care to blame anyone for it, but many internal and external forces don’t like it and so seek to understand it to counter-act it, and so naturally blame the Jews both of that time and those who carry on in the tradition of Hirschfeld, Freud, Moll, Marx, Bronstein, Horkheimer and so on.
All you’ve done is underline everything I’ve said as truthful observation. With any luck, the Jews also cause you fitful sleeps. Quick! Throw them money so they disappear :icon lol:
 

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All you’ve done is underline everything I’ve said as truthful observation. With any luck, the Jews also cause you fitful sleeps. Quick! Throw them money so they disappear :icon lol:
About Jews, you know what I find weird.. in Europe (except the UK and France) the Jews mostly have heavy Israeli/Hebrew accents and barely integrate (very focused on Israel and Jewish culture) while the ones in America are culturally very American/more assimilatist.
 

MI

Ted Kaczynski respecter
All you’ve done is underline everything I’ve said as truthful observation. With any luck, the Jews also cause you fitful sleeps. Quick! Throw them money so they disappear :icon lol:
Because I have a personal bias, which I probably do, doesn’t mean that what I said is untrue. That is a logical fallacy. Your personal incredulity is not an argument.
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VixR

Veritas
Because I have a personal bias, which I probably do, doesn’t mean that what I said is untrue. That is a logical fallacy. Your personal incredulity is not an argument.
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Your clear bias is leading you to fallacious “Ze Jews Dunnit” reasoning. You can’t be taken seriously. You don’t have an argument to start with.
 

MI

Ted Kaczynski respecter
Your clear bias is leading you to fallacious “Ze Jews Dunnit” reasoning. You can’t be taken seriously.
You’re simplifying what I said to the point of absurdity. The original contention was me correcting someone on why National Socialists disliked jews. I said it was because of the November/October Revolution, the social culture of Berlin was decadent, Marxist clubs who initiated the revolution headed by Jews, and remained influential enough to draft significant parts of the Weimar constitution making it the most liberal state in the world at the time. Also let’s not forget the Institute of Sexology who campaigned to make abortions, homophilia, transsexualism etc legal. All of this is unquestionably true.
 

VixR

Veritas
You’re simplifying what I said to the point of absurdity. The original contention was me correcting someone on why National Socialists disliked jews. I said it was because of the November/October Revolution, the social culture of Berlin was decadent, Marxist clubs who initiated the revolution headed by Jews, and remained influential enough to draft significant parts of the Weimar constitution making it the most liberal state in the world at the time. Also let’s not forget the Institute of Sexology who campaigned to make abortions, homophilia, transsexualism etc legal. All of this is unquestionably true.
The vast majority of the German public post WWI were negatively affected and suffered from all kinds of ills, social or otherwise, including poverty and subsequent breakdown of social norms, to the point prostitution was rife in both men and women, etc. To shift the social blame to Jews as the “others” in the social realm, and for their having some economic success is what led them to be persecuted, despite the majority German nature of the “crimes” the Nazi party blamed the Jewish minority for.

It’s the same way you’re using using “Sexology” as a cover to blame Jews (despite the complex landscape, it’s what you cling to) and protect Nazi Germany despite it not being anymore “holy” is it’s social moors nor it’s scientifically experimental ones. This is all due to your clear bias. Hence, you can’t be taken seriously.
 

MI

Ted Kaczynski respecter
The vast majority of the German public post WWI were negatively affected and suffered from all kinds of ills, social or otherwise, including poverty and subsequent breakdown of social norms, to the point prostitution was rife in both men and women, etc. To shift the social blame to Jews as the “others” in the social realm, and for their having some economic success is what led them to be persecuted, despite the majority German nature of the “crimes” the Nazi party blamed the Jewish minority for.

It’s the same way you’re using using “Sexology” as a cover to blame Jews (despite the complex landscape, it’s what you cling to) and protect Nazi Germany despite it not being anymore “holy” is it’s social moors nor it’s scientifically experimental ones. This is all due to your clear bias. Hence, you can’t be taken seriously.
The economy of the Weimar Republic was actually quite good up until the Great Depression, and still had all the problems you describe.
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The breakdown of social norms wasn’t because of the economy, you might want to look up “the Roaring twenties” that preceded the economic downturn. The decadence of Berlin was before any economic distress, so you’re factually incorrect. The actual cause was shifting social ideas that came down from the intellectual class to the common man/woman, just like 60s counter-culture in the West, just earlier.
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VixR

Veritas
The economy of the Weimar Republic was actually quite good up until the Great Depression, and still had all the problems you describe.
:gucciwhat:
The breakdown of social norms wasn’t because of the economy, you might want to look up “the Roaring twenties” that preceded the economic downturn. The decadence of Berlin was before any economic distress, so you’re factually incorrect. The actual cause was shifting social ideas that came down from the intellectual class to the common man/woman, just like 60s counter-culture in the West, just earlier.
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There is no curing you.

Register yourself in your local “Tha Jews dunnit” divison. It’s actually incredible, from Muslims, to Arabs, to Whites, the Jew is the ultimate boogeyman. But one doesn’t have to wonder why.
 

MI

Ted Kaczynski respecter
There is no curing you.

Register yourself in your local “Tha Jews dunnit” divison. It’s actually incredible, from Muslims, to Arabs, to Whites, the Jew is the ultimate boogeyman. But one doesn’t have to wonder why.
I give you facts and sources and all you do is say something vapid every time
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VixR

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I give you facts and sources and all you do is say something vapid every time
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Vapid indeed. “Look at the Jew” isn’t an argument.

I fully expect you to post George Soros next. You’re that far gone. Better yet, post about Baphomet rituals and the Freemasons, and how Jews control the world as we know it.
 

MI

Ted Kaczynski respecter
Vapid indeed. “Look at the Jew” isn’t an argument.

I fully expect you to post George Soros next. You’re that far gone. Better yet, post about Baphomet rituals and the Freemason, and how Jews control the world.
My point from the beginning was Jews had been leading culture in postwar Germany, National Socialists didn’t like that and killed a bunch of them. Jews left Germany understandably and exported their culture & science along with them and went to France, USA and the UK. They influenced much of the current cultures in Western Europe & Americas.

I’ve demonstrated this through the use of unbiased sources. All you’re doing is building strawmen and ascribing them to me like Baphomet rituals or other superstitions while not engaging with the actual argument. That is weak you 68IQ mental midget.
 

VixR

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My point from the beginning was Jews had been leading culture in postwar Germany, National Socialists didn’t like that and killed a bunch of them. Jews left Germany understandably and exported their culture & science along with them and went to France, USA and the UK. They influenced much of the current cultures in Western Europe & Americas.

I’ve demonstrated this through the use of unbiased sources. All you’re doing is building strawmen and ascribing them to me like Baphomet rituals or other superstitions while not engaging with the actual argument. That is weak you 68IQ mental midget.
You stole my thought with regards to you, sorry to say. The fact that you don’t understand the role of propaganda...even as you’re it’s willing “victim” due to your clear bias.
 

MI

Ted Kaczynski respecter
You stole my thought with regards to you, sorry to say. The fact that you don’t understand the role of propaganda...even as you’re it’s willing “victim” due to your clear bias.
It’s actually lowkey hilarious how you’ve resorted to calling Wikipedia Nazi propaganda
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VixR

Veritas
It’s actually lowkey hilarious how you’ve resorted to calling Wikipedia Nazi propaganda
:mjlol:
Erm, I never said that. “Look, a Jew!” isn’t an argument.

The point of the Nazi propaganda machine is lost on you. In your eyes, you actually believe the poor, good Germans were plagued with perverted Jews :icon lol:

I guess the Nazis would see you as an unintended, “dirty” success as a non-Aryan, though the message wasn’t meant for you.
 

MI

Ted Kaczynski respecter
Erm, I never said that. “Look, a Jew!” isn’t an argument.

The point of the Nazi propaganda machine is lost on you. In your eyes, the poor, good Germans were plagued with perverted Jews :icon lol:

I guess the Nazis would see you as unintended, “dirty” success as a non-Aryan, though the message wasn’t meant for you.
You realize the heyday of Goebbels and the Nazi propaganda machine has been over for quite a bit now, right? If anything you’ve fell for the post-war black/white propaganda of the Allies(which is still very much active) which represents the Nazis as bumbling fools who hated the Jews for no apparent reason, or depicts Jews in the manner you believe me to think of the Germans. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_propaganda

I have quite the sober analysis of what exactly happened during those years, through independent research of publicly available material. Also “Look a Jew!” is relevant when we’re discussing the actions of Jews, are you daft?
 

VixR

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You realize the heyday of Goebbels and the Nazi propaganda machine has been over for quite a bit now, right? If anything you’ve fell for the post-war black/white propaganda of the Allies(which is still very much active) which represents the Nazis as bumbling fools who hated the Jews for no apparent reason, or depicts Jews in the manner you believe me to think of the Germans. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_propaganda

I have quite the sober analysis of what exactly happened during those years, through independent research of publicly available material. Also “Look a Jew!” is relevant when we’re discussing the actions of Jews, are you daft?
Again, “Look, a Jew” is not an argument. We can go all day posting Jews of any end of the political spectrum, of scientists, or social scientists. It’s irrelevant! Hence, my coining it as ”Look, a Jew!”, which seems to have gone over your head.

My interpretation of Nazi hate of Jews is a simple one: mediocrity and racial policy. You, on the other hand, have swallowed the absurdly impossible narrative of good Germans vs Bad Jews lol. Daft, indeed.
 

MI

Ted Kaczynski respecter
“Look, a Jew” is not an argument. We can go all day posting Jews of any end of the political spectrum, of scientists, or social scientists. It’s irrelevant! Hence, my coining it as ”Look, a Jew!”, which seems to have gone over your head.

My interpretation of Nazi hate of Jews is a simple one: mediocrity and racial policy. You, on the other hand, have swallowed the absurdly impossible narrative of good Germans vs Bad Jews lol. Daft, indeed.
So according to you, it’s irrelevant that almost every goer in the Frankfurt School in Germany that launched the state of culture in the West along with liberal social dogmas disguised in Critical theory, was a Jew. It’s irrelevant that almost every Marxist proponent in inter-war period in Germany was a Jew including those who launched that November Revolution that initiated the Weimar Republic. It’s irrelevant that the first people the Völkisch movement deemed harmful to “social cohesion and morals” were Jewish intellectuals who started the first Abortion/Sexual Liberation/LGBT association. It’s irrelevant that the Leaders of the Mensheviks and the aptly named “Jewish Bund” in Moscow-Berlin that initiated the October Revolution, were Jews.

Agree to disagree, I believe this is all very relevant. We cannot find Jewish intellectuals in from just any political leaning who were as influential as these in the inter-war period, not by a long shot. The National Socialists of Germany actually say themselves that these were the reasons they hated Jews, for undermining the morals of Germany and for Cultural Marxism/Communism. If we have unbiased proof that Jews were actually doing this, which we do, then we have to take them at their word. Why do you feel the need to ascribe them fantastical reasons?
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