Debate a Communist

Radical

Been there, done that
How do you feel about Islamic Economy's perspective?
Wouldn't that be your default considering you're a Muslim?

Here's some videos on Islamic Economy if you want to know more about it:

Since Islam covers every aspect of life including economics, wouldn't it be the best choice for Muslim majority countries?
Don't accumulate wealth, help the needy, avoid corrupt/haram transactions, those are the fundamentals of an Islamic economy, and also the fundamentals of a communist one, they don't necessarily negate one another
 
Lol Marx was an atheist and he hated religion but he also didn’t consider himself to be a communist. The users here are very confused. Try and think of Marx as a philosophy student who became a journalist because that’s who he was. Not a religious advisor or anything else like that.

@Radical Canjeerorism sweetheart, can you explain whether you mean you are agree with the works of Karl Marx or whether you are just a proponent of the democratic socialist model Scandinavian countries follow? Once you clarify this for me I can ask you a question xx
 

Radical

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Lol Marx was an atheist and he hated religion but he also didn’t consider himself to be a communist. The users here are very confused. Try and think of Marx as a philosophy student who became a journalist because that’s who he was. Not a religious advisor or anything else like that.

@Radical Canjeerorism sweetheart, can you explain whether you mean you are agree with the works of Karl Marx or whether you are just a proponent of the democratic socialist model Scandinavian countries follow? Once you clarify this for me I can ask you a question xx
I do agree with what most of Karl says, though I don't treat his work like science, I lean more towards his side than the socialist scandi countries
if theres no money in communism how are we meant to give zakat
There are other forms of paying zakat than just handing out cash, you could do it in livestock, clothing, food or any other basic need
 
I do agree with what most of Karl says, though I don't treat his work like science, I lean more towards his side than the socialist scandi countries

There are other forms of paying zakat than just handing out cash, you could do it in livestock, clothing, food or any other basic need
Give us an example of something. Don't propose principals, we already know why capitalism is bad and the ideals of communism. How should society be organised? How do you eliminate money? How do you organise government?
 
Where's @Omar del Sur when you need him. Socialism is anti-islam and here's a conspiracy theory book by a white supremacist that proves it's made by Jews:mjlaugh:
Hahahaha did you see that thread? I was literally gobsmacked at how he recommended books from Joseph Goebbel and David duke. Also Henry ford who Hitler admired. The books has jews drawn as snakes and wrapped around the earth or other inherently antisemtic/white supremacist stuff on the cover
:urgh: <— That was was literally my face seeing those books he recommended
 

Radical

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Give us an example of something. Don't propose principals, we already know why capitalism is bad and the ideals of communism. How should society be organised? How do you eliminate money? How do you organise government?
Check out the YouTube channel Noncomplete if you wanna know the answer to these things, he describes it very well and easy to digest
 

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I do agree with what most of Karl says, though I don't treat his work like science, I lean more towards his side than the socialist scandi countries

There are other forms of paying zakat than just handing out cash, you could do it in livestock, clothing, food or any other basic need
you must give zakat in something you can make profit from
 

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In my opinion the accumulation of wealth is not a bad thing Uthman Bin Affan (RA) was very wealthy and wasn’t ever condemned for it but rather he was praised. This was a conversation better suited for @Teeri-Alpha I am not much of an economist. I am a business man who more or less preys on poorer africans I know my place :manny:
 

Radical

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you must give zakat in something you can make profit from

Here is the productive wealth which zakat is levied upon, copied from This website

1. Gold and silver in whatever form they may be as coins, jewellery, cash, banknotes, utensils etc.

2. Articles of merchandise.

3. Certain livestock that graze freely for most of the year for the purpose of milk and procreation, as camels, cows, buffaloes, goats and sheep.

4. Land produce as wheat, dates, vegetables, fruits

Gold and silver is still valuable in a communist society even without money, so is the rest of that list excluding cash

In my opinion the accumulation of wealth is not a bad thing Uthman Bin Affan (RA) was very wealthy and wasn’t ever condemned for it but rather he was praised. This was a conversation better suited for @Teeri-Alpha I am not much of an economist. I am a business man who more or less preys on poorer africans I know my place :manny:
At least you're honest. yes the accumulation of wealth isn't an absolute evil thing as long as you're paying enough zakat, but as we saw time and time again there will always be more greedy millionaires than philanthropic ones, and we're way passed Affan's era, the population has increased by billions now which makes hoarding that much more catastrophic
 
Reading through this thread has shown me that you believe in a class system of some kind, wealth accumulation but not done obscenely. So why do you call yourself a communist?
 

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