Debate a Communist

Radical

Been there, done that
Do you think this will ever be achieved?
Yes there will be a systematic revolution if we're still alive by then, as capitalism has proofed itself to be detrimental to the global population and climate, One day there will be enough people who will know the truth
 
All theory, no indication any of it will work. Why replace a system which works?

Also those people who will be in charge of the system are still humans, what will prevent them from being greedy fucks and consolidating power? Communism only works in eutopia.
 

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Radical

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All theory, no indication any of it will work. Why replace a system which works?

Also those people who will be in charge of the system are still humans, what will prevent them from being greedy fucks and consolidating power? Communism only works in eutopia.
I'm sure capitalism was also once a theory in someone's head

There's not much motivation to be greedy in a communist society as there is no cash, also hierarchies are reduced to the absolute minimum which means shuffling authorative individuals through short periods of time in a democratic manner, so there is no competition or hunger to stay in power
 

Radical

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I'd like to end this by saying people are naturally altruistic, there are prehistoric human remains showing that people cared for the old and the disabled even though they couldn't work. When we see someone hurt, we want to help. Having a medium through which to gain and exert power (money) nullifies or limits these inherent qualities while enabling greed and corruption, and cultivates a culture that fetishizes competition over co-operation

A Capitalist society by nature prioritizes selfish individual gain over the collective good of the people, while its incentives being to either work hard or die, regardless if you're able to or not, it's structured in way that allows only a few to reap the rewards while at least 80% of the population live in penury or extreme famine

How can we take care of the needy and fully practice our inherent ancestral characteristics under this harsh climate? Literally and figuratively
 

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It is not possible for a person to be a Muslim and a Communist at the same time, because they are opposites that cannot co-exist in the same individual without one of them prevailing and the other being eliminated. Whoever is a Communist is not a Muslim. Communism involves different kinds of blatant kufr, such as denying the existence of Allaah (may He be glorified and exalted), denying the existence of the unseen worlds, making a mockery of the religion of Allaah and looking down on it, and flouting its laws and morals. How can the Muslim whose religion is Islam follow an ideology which states that religion is the opium of the people? Communists are among the kuffaar in refutation of whom Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Were they created by nothing, or were they themselves the creators? Or did they create the heavens and the earth? Nay, but they have no firm Belief.” [al-Toor 52:35-36] How can the Muslim follow a group whose belief is such? We ask Allaah for guidance.


Buddy I think people here are discussing the economic system
 
people tend to mistake it for a religion or a cult, when it's only just an economic system which is governed by the people and can be applied regardless of one's personal faith, it's especially non problematic in Islam as we don't have public hierarchies like priests, bishops etc
How do you feel about Islamic Economy's perspective?
Wouldn't that be your default considering you're a Muslim?

Here's some videos on Islamic Economy if you want to know more about it:

Since Islam covers every aspect of life including economics, wouldn't it be the best choice for Muslim majority countries?
 

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