Could this be the future of Somalis in the diaspora?

@Schematics

Ina adeer, you are a master of massaging an issue claiming that there was never a thing wrong in Somalis marrying "outsiders" in our history and then inserting this quote;

"Waxaad taqaan guurso, wax layaqaan hakuu dhaleene
Marry someone you know, so they give birth to kids you know."

This proverb was intended towards marrying from your own clan and was meant to denigrate marrying from other clans especially one is a rival with your clan or other "lowly" clans and in particular from the madhibaan clan. Sxb, from all my male ancestors only one married a female from a different sub clan. It might work with an old bloke like @Crow and marry a girl from the genuine real mudug, but it wouldn't work on most of young Somalis unless their wedding was arranged by their parents.

The Somalis in the Western countries are in a different kettle. Those who marry "others" are well educated and marry via reason and passion. You have the exceptional ones like sister (name deleted) who wants a Samaroon guy to be shackled for seven years to wait for her. That is crazy. Just saying. @sophisticate no pun dear. Sorry, I couldn't respond to that thread because it is worse than BDSM.

I had outsiders in mind when I used that Somali saying.

To me, Somalis are one clan and lineage variations among them do not exist. Their numbers grew and they split into families long ago. Science proves it, their similar looks on average prove that. Somalis recognize another Somali in the street for that reason. Unless you hear a Somali speak, you can not guess what clan they belong to. Even after they speak, many clans share similar regional dialect/accent and you can still be wrong in the guessing game.


Finally, I generally view a Somali clanist to be ignorant(reer baadiye in a city) or a hypocrite. The ignorant I excuse them because they don't know any better. Most of them are first time city residents trying to do good. I can ignore their clan baggage. The hypocrites, I piss on them and show nothing but disdain towards them. Nothing but my foot in their mouth.
 
Dr @Baki

Brother @Schematics is a reasonable, respectful and tolerant man, but sideey @Basra cajarkeeda weeyn u saartey bidaartiisa, he veered from that path. Eeddo @Basra odeyga cajarka ka qaad.

Jokes aside, we moved on from an era where young Somalis and in particular girls mostly married former convicts or converts with little education and today, they are marrying professional (uni graduates) "foreigners". It is in our best interests to welcome their children into the Somali communities. Other African countries like Ghana and Nigeria are accepting and welcoming these people who have excelled in their given field be soccer players, scientists, business people and other highly educated professionals. We should at-least dim it this fake pride. It got us no-where.

Reer @AussieHustler i'm just pushing buttons to see what makes people tick, he's got a stench a certain aroma/air of hubris about him he will fit in perfectly in this forum.

And please never call me Dr.
 

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~Gallantly Gadabuursi~
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@Schematics

Ina adeer, you are a master of massaging an issue claiming that there was never a thing wrong in Somalis marrying "outsiders" in our history and then inserting this quote;

"Waxaad taqaan guurso, wax layaqaan hakuu dhaleene
Marry someone you know, so they give birth to kids you know."

This proverb was intended towards marrying from your own clan and was meant to denigrate marrying from other clans especially one is a rival with your clan or other "lowly" clans and in particular from the madhibaan clan. Sxb, from all my male ancestors only one married a female from a different sub clan. It might work with an old bloke like @Crow and marry a girl from the genuine real mudug, but it wouldn't work on most of young Somalis unless their wedding was arranged by their parents.

The Somalis in the Western countries are in a different kettle. Those who marry "others" are well educated and marry via reason and passion. You have the exceptional ones like sister (name deleted) who wants a Samaroon guy to be shackled for seven years to wait for her. That is crazy. Just saying. @sophisticate no pun dear. Sorry, I couldn't respond to that thread because it is worse than BDSM.

:yacadiim:It takes seven years to truly know the rhymes of a woman's body. I'm keeping it interesting with no access granted.

Obviously only tolka can be emotionally blackmailed to fall for such a proposal of a 7-year famine.

Nothing a Samaroon brother wouldn't do for deferred gratification from a monk-temptress-erudite sister.


@Southerner gather the men. I may choose up.
 

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