Catholic, missionaries spread Christianity in Somalia - Sheakh Saiid Raage

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@Canuck

You need to understand that it's only natural that a gaal will support any initiative carried out by other gaals, esp when it's against islam. As a muslim it's a creedal matter as to why we're opposed to building of churches in our countries but to these people it's not to them all religions are equal. Ergo we can never come to an agreement


The most important matter here is the two churches are catholic.
Catholic Church: Raping Children is Religious Freedom of Expression for Pedophile Priests
 
Canuck

We have similar pedophilia cases on the Catholic Church here in Australia too and the abuse of children by powerful priests and the Church hierarchy's cover up is hideous and evil, but would you have preferred if other Christian denominations opened churches in Somalia?
 

GodKnowsBest

Somaliweyn Unionist
Masha allah.

Absolutely beautiful. May we open churches everywhere.

Catholicism is heretical though. They need to make it protestant
 

SuldaanGuled

Rag waa shaah dumarna waa sheeko.
The most important matter here is the two churches are catholic.
Catholic Church: Raping Children is Religious Freedom of Expression for Pedophile Priests

Walaal it doesn't matter which denomination they belong to tbh gaal waa gaal. Would you be ok with it had it been protestant etc ??
 
Canuck

We have similar pedophilia cases on the Catholic Church here in Australia too and the abuse of children by powerful priests and the Church hierarchy's cover up is hideous and evil, but would you have preferred if other Christian denominations opened churches in Somalia?

I don't mind at all because Christianity is the easiest religion to debunk.
 
Walaal it doesn't matter which denomination they belong to tbh gaal waa gaal. Would you be ok with it had it been protestant etc ??


It does matter brother, Christianity is easiest religion to debunk, trust me I studied in Christian school and even attended one time a service with my friend. Really more people are leaving the Christianity.
 

SuldaanGuled

Rag waa shaah dumarna waa sheeko.
It does matter brother, Christianity is easiest religion to debunk, trust me I studied in Christian school and even attended one time a service with my friend. Really more people are leaving the Christianity.

I know walaal but not everyone is on the same level so some people might fall prey to these people. That's why the best policy is not to allow them at all. It's one of the reasons that led maxamed abdullahi hasan to start fighting.
 

ArchBishopofAtheism

Intellectual saqajaan
The belief that everything in this world happened purely by chance is completely nonsense.

Perhaps, it is you who should examine your own nonsense.
We know too much about the abrahamic god. Its possible that an all powerful being exists but he wouldn't accept prayers in a particular language, demand that humans "face" a black rock to pray to him (even though that's not possible since the earth is not flat), act like a human and settle scores etc.

We know too much about the history of the world to confidently rule out the existence of the abrahamic god. For example we know that Quran/bible stories about "righteous" prophets takes place no earlier than 6,000 years ago. There is clear evidence that humans in their current form existed much earlier than that and that they weren't worshipping the abrahamic god.

The Bible claims that god created Adam and Eve 6,000 years ago and that they were the first humans. The Quran agrees and doesn't dispute the 6,000 year claim. This is obviously comical since humans were making cave art 40,000 years ago and there's abundant, overwhelming evidence that species evolve (and become different species sometimes) and that we evolved.

So, no one claims there's no higher power. Its just that your version of a higher power doesn't exist and was made up by man.
 

ArchBishopofAtheism

Intellectual saqajaan
The belief that everything in this world happened purely by chance is completely nonsense.

Perhaps, it is you who should examine your own nonsense.
We know too much about the abrahamic god. Its possible that an all powerful being exists but he wouldn't accept prayers in a particular language, demand that humans "face" a black rock to pray to him (even though that's not possible since the earth is not flat), act like a human and settle scores etc.

We know too much about the history of the world to confidently rule out the existence of the abrahamic god. For example we know that Quran/bible stories about "righteous" prophets takes place no earlier than 6,000 years ago. There is clear evidence that humans in their current form existed much earlier than that and that they weren't worshipping the abrahamic god.

The Bible claims that god created Adam and Eve 6,000 years ago and that they were the first humans. The Quran agrees and doesn't dispute the 6,000 year claim. This is obviously comical since humans were making cave art 40,000 years ago and there's abundant, overwhelming evidence that species evolve (and become different species sometimes) and that we evolved.

So, no one claims there's no higher power. Its just that your version of a higher power doesn't exist and was made up by man.
 

Malcolm X

The price of freedom is death
Malcolm

We are on the same page, but to test if Allah guides and misguides people, the Muslim world should open it's doors to different religions and non-religious literature and abolish all these blasphemy Laws of killing apostates. If "Allah misguided them", why do they have to be afraid and hide their misguidance? It is not their fault. Let's put to the test that, "Allah guides whom he wills and misguides whom he wills".

"Anas ibn Malik reported: A man said, “O Messenger of Allah, should I tie my camel and trust in Allah, or should I leave her untied and trust in Allah?” The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Tie her and trust in Allah.

Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 2517

There's many examples like the above.

Sometimes praying it away is not the best thing to do.
 
A country which has 100% Muslim inhabitants and opens 2 churches!!!!who will go to the churches or pray in it? Nobody. The purpose is spreading the Christianity. Don't worry Somalis would not exchange their faith for piece of bread.
I truly doubt that figure is accurate
 

Malcolm X

The price of freedom is death
We know too much about the abrahamic god. Its possible that an all powerful being exists but he wouldn't accept prayers in a particular language, demand that humans "face" a black rock to pray to him (even though that's not possible since the earth is not flat), act like a human and settle scores etc.

We know too much about the history of the world to confidently rule out the existence of the abrahamic god. For example we know that Quran/bible stories about "righteous" prophets takes place no earlier than 6,000 years ago. There is clear evidence that humans in their current form existed much earlier than that and that they weren't worshipping the abrahamic god.

The Bible claims that god created Adam and Eve 6,000 years ago and that they were the first humans. The Quran agrees and doesn't dispute the 6,000 year claim. This is obviously comical since humans were making cave art 40,000 years ago and there's abundant, overwhelming evidence that species evolve (and become different species sometimes) and that we evolved.

So, no one claims there's no higher power. Its just that your version of a higher power doesn't exist and was made up by man.

1. Allah accepts duas in all languages. If you're saying all-powerful Allah can't understand different languages, then you'd be wrong.
2. We don't have to super precise when determining qibla for a prayer. If you're saying the "black rock" is the reason, you'd be wrong because I could be 100 km off praying to Jeddah instead if my qibla in the UK 1 cm off. We didn't even pray in that direction originally. We prayed to Jerusalem first before changing to Makkah. The more important thing is that we all are united and aligned in the same direction for local Muslim community
3. Where's the evidence saying Qur'an agrees with the 6,000 year old claim?

The fact is, you know little about Islam.

You preach to others saying Islam is bad but you don't know what Islam is.

:camby:
 
He's just another Alshabaab propagandist. Take it from me, the world's foremost expert in Jihadi mentality, this is how they start brainwashing people.

Somalis are being slaughtered by corrupt police, Alshabaab Jihadis, so-called peacekeepers, hunger, disease, ignorance... and this so-called Shiikh thinks his time is better spent fighting boogeyman Christian fifth column?
 
As an atheist, I would like to keep the Islamic monopoly. We already have enough divisions amongst ourselves, there is no need for more.
 
Don't Muslims preach in every country in the World? Haven't Muslims built a mosque in very country on the world?
Stop the hypocrisy, let them preach peacefully, it's freedom of speech.
But they are spreading 100% muslim country with fake bible
 
Another case of rape from a catholic priest has surfaced.



In a depraved and disturbing statement by the Archdiocese of Milwaukee, a high-ranking cleric from the Catholic Church, he claimed that pedophilia is granted by God for priests. The vile comment was made by Cardinal Timothy Dolan after being found to have transferred church finances into a trust to keep them from being sued for clergy child abuse.


The Catholic Archdiocese of Milwaukee kept $55 million dollars in church funds from lawsuits started by victims of priestly sexual abuse, and transferred the money to a separate trust to take care of the archdiocese's cemeteries and mausoleums, stated a letter by Timothy Dolan, the then-Archbishop of Milwaukee. When victims came forward to seek compensation in a bankruptcy proceeding, the archdiocese made claims that their ability to sexually molest children is a right of religious liberty and that no money should be compensated to victims of clergy child sex abuse.


Church and State finds the allegations against the Archdiocese in Milwaukee to be shocking and it involved 45 priests that had been accused of molesting around 200 deaf boys. Think Progress reports that the $55 million from the bankruptcy proceedings went into a trust for mausoleums and cemeteries. They then used their religious freedom as a defense against victims. It worked when a court ruled that religious freedom ensured their right to not compensate the victims in 2013. The first court was overruled by the Seventh Circuit Court, yet it doesn’t imply that victims will be compensated, but an appeal will follow.

The church states the money is needed to fund mausoleums and cemeteries, and if they have to compensate victims, their obligations to service the deceased will be unfulfilled. Religious freedom has become quite an issue after the archdiocese says it had a Canonical obligation to “properly maintain in perpetuity” the mausoleums and cemeteries that rely on funding from the trust.

If victims of sexual abuse and creditors are compensated, the archdiocese states, “there will be no funds or, at best, insufficient funds, for the perpetual care of the Milwaukee Catholic Cemeteries,” therefore the archdiocese claims it won’t be able to complete its religious obligation.
With the rejection of this claim that the archdiocese having the religious right to transfer trust funds on burial places and only there, the 7th Circuit explained many reasons why religious freedom can’t over sway the rights of victims of clergy sex abuse and the archdiocese’s creditors.

The court ruled the archdiocese’s claim for religious liberty would fail under constitutional scrutiny.
The court ruled churches do not have the right to be exempt from paying taxes into Social Security, and that public interest can replace religious freedom: Drawing a comparison to a Supreme Court decision holding that religious objectors may not opt out of Social Security taxes, the court notes that federal bankruptcy law, like Social Security, “serves the public interest by providing a comprehensive … system with a variety of benefits available to all participants’ nationwide.”
Just as Social Security “aids those who have reached a certain age or are disabled, the Code aids those who have reached a certain financial condition and who need assistance repaying or recovering a debt.”
It was warned by the court that if this becomes a precedent, there will be no way to predict where it will end up.

Anyone at any time can join or create a cult to “gain economic advantage” or businesses can rely on their religious beliefs, no matter what the case, to violate or discriminate laws in ways the Catholic Church has justified pedophilia.
They have Fake bible
 

Gambar

VIP
Siciid Raage is nothing short of a pompous idiot. He didn't even have respect for his first Somali wife. He's from Somaliland but doesn't want help from missionaries for his people who desperately need it? Newsflash: Christian and Catholic missionaries are the ones who sponsor refugees to come to the West. They also encourage and help Somalis set up mosques and community centers. Shut up with the conspiracy theories. Somalis complain too much. :rolleyes:
 
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