Catholic, missionaries spread Christianity in Somalia - Sheakh Saiid Raage
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This sheikh is not only contradicting himself but he is a very dangerous one that labels the United Nations and all NGO's working in Somalia as a front spreading Christianity in Somalia. These are agencies that are feeding, nursing and educating the most downtrodden Somalis, what did he contribute to their miserable livelihoods other than to demonise those that are helping them like alshabaab does?
Secondly, he argues that women wear the niqaab or hijab voluntarily and then concedes and argues that it is due to the strength of Muslim men to make them wear it. This is corraborated by his former Somali wife who threw her niqaab in a jealousy rage after he married the white convert who used to be the über of the town. His concert wife is now wearing the niqaab, was that voluntarily? Have you noticed the slight buun buunin of convert women over other Muslim women? he should have used his convert wife as an analogy.
The priest is right, we are rowdy, scream and obstinate people. Visit most Somalis who live in a house, they didn't only kill the plants in their backyards but weeds took over the whole backyard and threaten the gardens of the neighbours. We should be allowed to keep goats in our backyards.
can Christians buy a mosque and turn into a church? He made it to be secretive when buying that church and what happened after the mosque opened? Were there any protests against it or anger expressed towards the Muslims? None. He likes his simpleton audience to think that they were smarter than the Christians when they were going to buy the church, in fact when they didn't give a damn what becomes of the church after it was sold. Another Muslim jimmy swaggart.
Secondly, he argues that women wear the niqaab or hijab voluntarily and then concedes and argues that it is due to the strength of Muslim men to make them wear it. This is corraborated by his former Somali wife who threw her niqaab in a jealousy rage after he married the white convert who used to be the über of the town. His concert wife is now wearing the niqaab, was that voluntarily? Have you noticed the slight buun buunin of convert women over other Muslim women? he should have used his convert wife as an analogy.
The priest is right, we are rowdy, scream and obstinate people. Visit most Somalis who live in a house, they didn't only kill the plants in their backyards but weeds took over the whole backyard and threaten the gardens of the neighbours. We should be allowed to keep goats in our backyards.
can Christians buy a mosque and turn into a church? He made it to be secretive when buying that church and what happened after the mosque opened? Were there any protests against it or anger expressed towards the Muslims? None. He likes his simpleton audience to think that they were smarter than the Christians when they were going to buy the church, in fact when they didn't give a damn what becomes of the church after it was sold. Another Muslim jimmy swaggart.
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He talking about one church opened in small sheikh village in SL. Also Muslim opened their mosques to service Muslim people that live in that neighbourhood. No Muslim person will go and build mosque at Vatican (which is 100% Christian).
Something else, it is so low to bribe hungry people by food to abandon their faith.
Plus the dark history of Catholic church with little boys. They send their pedophiles to third world countries where they can buy and silence the locals.
As human you should worry about 2 Catholic Churches in SL where people are suffering from famine and youth are poor and dreaming of crossing to Europe. Worry for our youth from these pedophiles men.
It is not about hypocrisy but the churches are catholic who send their pedophiles to third world countries like SL. Think poor locals who are suffering from famine and pedophiles catholic priests.
Yeah you are right, don't want those pedo priests abusing Somali kids.
Canuck
Either you guys don't believe in the Koran or are too emotional to accept a Somali converted to Christianity. Allah says in the Koran , he guides whom he wills and misguides whom he wills. Why are you afraid of those misguided by Allah choosing whatever they want to believe. The other thing is, salafis including alshabaab propagate that the United Nations and all ngo's are a vehichle for spreading Christianity, who will help the starving Somalis? It is a very dangerous allegation that could wipe out millions of Somalis and endangers the lives of those who are trying to help them.
Either you guys don't believe in the Koran or are too emotional to accept a Somali converted to Christianity. Allah says in the Koran , he guides whom he wills and misguides whom he wills. Why are you afraid of those misguided by Allah choosing whatever they want to believe. The other thing is, salafis including alshabaab propagate that the United Nations and all ngo's are a vehichle for spreading Christianity, who will help the starving Somalis? It is a very dangerous allegation that could wipe out millions of Somalis and endangers the lives of those who are trying to help them.
All I care about is country suffering from famine and Catholic Churches which was opened in remote village. Plz you know their records with pedophiles.
Malcolm X
The price of freedom is death
But you don't know what was already written for them. Would it be written down for people to be converted to Christianity if the church had never existed in the first place?
It would be a miracle if hundreds, maybe thousands people were converted without a single church in a city.
Miracles like that are very rare.
ArchBishopofAtheism
Intellectual saqajaan
Why would you trade your current bullshit for other bullshit? You should examine what theyre spreading, laugh at it and then examine your own nonsense.
I don't understand people who leave Islam for Christianity, so stupid!
Malcolm X
The price of freedom is death
The belief that everything in this world happened purely by chance is completely nonsense.
Perhaps, it is you who should examine your own nonsense.
Malcolm
What do you mean by what is written for them? Can't your powerful Allah salvage them, or does he need you to rescue them? With or without church, give people the freedom to choose, if they choose to remain in Islam, then you could argue Allah was correct, he guided them, but if they didn't, you are challenging him of misguiding li man yasha. You seem to be confused.
Malcolm X
The price of freedom is death
Time to read some literature on free will and qadar then.
What I'm saying is, Qadar and free will are linked.We can do whatever we want, it was already written down for us anyway. We are not restricted in our actions. Allah is all-knowing, he knew our life story long before we even existed
If you try prevent people from converting to Christianity out of your choice, then that was the fate. It was going to happen anyway.
Nothing goes without Allah's knowledge.
SuldaanGuled
Rag waa shaah dumarna waa sheeko.
@Canuck
You need to understand that it's only natural that a gaal will support any initiative carried out by other gaals, esp when it's against islam. As a muslim it's a creedal matter as to why we're opposed to building of churches in our countries but to these people it's not to them all religions are equal. Ergo we can never come to an agreement
You need to understand that it's only natural that a gaal will support any initiative carried out by other gaals, esp when it's against islam. As a muslim it's a creedal matter as to why we're opposed to building of churches in our countries but to these people it's not to them all religions are equal. Ergo we can never come to an agreement
Malcolm
We are on the same page, but to test if Allah guides and misguides people, the Muslim world should open it's doors to different religions and non-religious literature and abolish all these blasphemy Laws of killing apostates. If "Allah misguided them", why do they have to be afraid and hide their misguidance? It is not their fault. Let's put to the test that, "Allah guides whom he wills and misguides whom he wills".
Another case of rape from a catholic priest has surfaced.
In a depraved and disturbing statement by the Archdiocese of Milwaukee, a high-ranking cleric from the Catholic Church, he claimed that pedophilia is granted by God for priests. The vile comment was made by Cardinal Timothy Dolan after being found to have transferred church finances into a trust to keep them from being sued for clergy child abuse.
The Catholic Archdiocese of Milwaukee kept $55 million dollars in church funds from lawsuits started by victims of priestly sexual abuse, and transferred the money to a separate trust to take care of the archdiocese's cemeteries and mausoleums, stated a letter by Timothy Dolan, the then-Archbishop of Milwaukee. When victims came forward to seek compensation in a bankruptcy proceeding, the archdiocese made claims that their ability to sexually molest children is a right of religious liberty and that no money should be compensated to victims of clergy child sex abuse.
Church and State finds the allegations against the Archdiocese in Milwaukee to be shocking and it involved 45 priests that had been accused of molesting around 200 deaf boys. Think Progress reports that the $55 million from the bankruptcy proceedings went into a trust for mausoleums and cemeteries. They then used their religious freedom as a defense against victims. It worked when a court ruled that religious freedom ensured their right to not compensate the victims in 2013. The first court was overruled by the Seventh Circuit Court, yet it doesn’t imply that victims will be compensated, but an appeal will follow.
The church states the money is needed to fund mausoleums and cemeteries, and if they have to compensate victims, their obligations to service the deceased will be unfulfilled. Religious freedom has become quite an issue after the archdiocese says it had a Canonical obligation to “properly maintain in perpetuity” the mausoleums and cemeteries that rely on funding from the trust.
If victims of sexual abuse and creditors are compensated, the archdiocese states, “there will be no funds or, at best, insufficient funds, for the perpetual care of the Milwaukee Catholic Cemeteries,” therefore the archdiocese claims it won’t be able to complete its religious obligation.
With the rejection of this claim that the archdiocese having the religious right to transfer trust funds on burial places and only there, the 7th Circuit explained many reasons why religious freedom can’t over sway the rights of victims of clergy sex abuse and the archdiocese’s creditors.
The court ruled the archdiocese’s claim for religious liberty would fail under constitutional scrutiny.
The court ruled churches do not have the right to be exempt from paying taxes into Social Security, and that public interest can replace religious freedom: Drawing a comparison to a Supreme Court decision holding that religious objectors may not opt out of Social Security taxes, the court notes that federal bankruptcy law, like Social Security, “serves the public interest by providing a comprehensive … system with a variety of benefits available to all participants’ nationwide.”
Just as Social Security “aids those who have reached a certain age or are disabled, the Code aids those who have reached a certain financial condition and who need assistance repaying or recovering a debt.”
It was warned by the court that if this becomes a precedent, there will be no way to predict where it will end up.
Anyone at any time can join or create a cult to “gain economic advantage” or businesses can rely on their religious beliefs, no matter what the case, to violate or discriminate laws in ways the Catholic Church has justified pedophilia.
In a depraved and disturbing statement by the Archdiocese of Milwaukee, a high-ranking cleric from the Catholic Church, he claimed that pedophilia is granted by God for priests. The vile comment was made by Cardinal Timothy Dolan after being found to have transferred church finances into a trust to keep them from being sued for clergy child abuse.
The Catholic Archdiocese of Milwaukee kept $55 million dollars in church funds from lawsuits started by victims of priestly sexual abuse, and transferred the money to a separate trust to take care of the archdiocese's cemeteries and mausoleums, stated a letter by Timothy Dolan, the then-Archbishop of Milwaukee. When victims came forward to seek compensation in a bankruptcy proceeding, the archdiocese made claims that their ability to sexually molest children is a right of religious liberty and that no money should be compensated to victims of clergy child sex abuse.
Church and State finds the allegations against the Archdiocese in Milwaukee to be shocking and it involved 45 priests that had been accused of molesting around 200 deaf boys. Think Progress reports that the $55 million from the bankruptcy proceedings went into a trust for mausoleums and cemeteries. They then used their religious freedom as a defense against victims. It worked when a court ruled that religious freedom ensured their right to not compensate the victims in 2013. The first court was overruled by the Seventh Circuit Court, yet it doesn’t imply that victims will be compensated, but an appeal will follow.
The church states the money is needed to fund mausoleums and cemeteries, and if they have to compensate victims, their obligations to service the deceased will be unfulfilled. Religious freedom has become quite an issue after the archdiocese says it had a Canonical obligation to “properly maintain in perpetuity” the mausoleums and cemeteries that rely on funding from the trust.
If victims of sexual abuse and creditors are compensated, the archdiocese states, “there will be no funds or, at best, insufficient funds, for the perpetual care of the Milwaukee Catholic Cemeteries,” therefore the archdiocese claims it won’t be able to complete its religious obligation.
With the rejection of this claim that the archdiocese having the religious right to transfer trust funds on burial places and only there, the 7th Circuit explained many reasons why religious freedom can’t over sway the rights of victims of clergy sex abuse and the archdiocese’s creditors.
The court ruled the archdiocese’s claim for religious liberty would fail under constitutional scrutiny.
The court ruled churches do not have the right to be exempt from paying taxes into Social Security, and that public interest can replace religious freedom: Drawing a comparison to a Supreme Court decision holding that religious objectors may not opt out of Social Security taxes, the court notes that federal bankruptcy law, like Social Security, “serves the public interest by providing a comprehensive … system with a variety of benefits available to all participants’ nationwide.”
Just as Social Security “aids those who have reached a certain age or are disabled, the Code aids those who have reached a certain financial condition and who need assistance repaying or recovering a debt.”
It was warned by the court that if this becomes a precedent, there will be no way to predict where it will end up.
Anyone at any time can join or create a cult to “gain economic advantage” or businesses can rely on their religious beliefs, no matter what the case, to violate or discriminate laws in ways the Catholic Church has justified pedophilia.
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