Cad cad guy goes batshit crazy

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

The Anglo Saxons reached Britain around 410-500 AD and came as invaders, the Barawanis most likely sometime in the last millennium probably around the 10th century came to Somalia as skilled traders/craftsmen, they have every right to the sea as any other Somali, at the end of the day their population is 30,000 and is shrinking.

I do not have the historical records at hand, but shall take your word for it, and therefore both Anglo Saxons (Somalis in this context), and Barawani et al (you and I in the West) have rights in these lands, as much as they do in .So.

 

[Khaem]

All the recorded anthropological research I have seen, for instance the most recent and extensive one, Dr. Ghani's, point to Somalis migrating to what is .So today. By the way, Anglo Saxons of Britain today claim to be the original Brits, and not to have migrated.

However the point is this: Barawani et al are as Somalis in .So as you are a Brit in the UK. Othering them is in bad form bigotry.

All the recorded anthropological research I have seen, for instance the most recent and extensive one, Dr. Ghani's, point to Somalis migrating to what is .So today.

Then link those research, the theory of Somalis originating from southern Ethiopia doesn't even have a leg to stand on at this point. Our closest group Afar-Saho are all the way up north BTW.

Somalis originate from the border with afars and in modern day Djibouti and Somaliland, so we are native to the peninsula. This isn't a coincidence that most Somali tombs are located in waqooyi. Even clans that are associated with southern regions.

By the way, Anglo Saxons of Britain today claim to be the original Brits, and not to have migrated.

No one claims that lol, I literally went and learned about standard British history in school growing up and the anglo saxon migrations is a fact.

However the people of Britain are still natives, the Anglo saxons simply assimilated the native Britons.

However the point is this: Barawani et al are as Somalis in .So as you are a Brit in the UK. Othering them is in bad form bigotry.

That's funny because I'm not seen or consider myself British. Even living in the UK born and raised I'm still seen as and consider myself somali.

 

[NidarNidar]

I do not have the historical records at hand, but shall take your word for it, and therefore both Anglo Saxons (Somalis in this context), and Barawani et al (you and I in the West) have rights in these lands, as much as they do in .So.

No one is denying anyone rights, I'm for abolishing the 4.5 rule.

 

[Mudug_gyal]

Mea culpa, why did I think you were a Slimey? Where are you from, her ladyship?

I meant ethnically im not from there. I live in the uk

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

Then link those research, the theory of Somalis originating from southern Ethiopia doesn't even have a leg to stand on at this point. Our closest group Afar-Saho are all the way up north BTW.

Let us reserve the origin conversation for another day, shall we?

No one claims that lol, I literally went and learned about standard British history in school growing up and the anglo saxon migrations is a fact.

However the people of Britain are still natives, the Anglo saxons simply assimilated the native Britons.

It was not just a migration, but more of an invasion post the collapse of the Roman empire, and annihilation of local tribes through raping and pillaging. I think it was 250,000 virile angry young Germans slaughtering the English men, raping all the women, and taking over the land, ergo Aegland.

That's funny because I'm not seen or consider myself British. Even living in the UK born and raised I'm still seen as and consider myself somali.

You are then anomaly, but then again, you are 1st generation. Wait till the 2nd generation. I consider myself as a Brit as the next person.

I'm for abolishing the 4.5 rule.

It is a temporary solution, and on its way out.

I meant ethnically im not from there. I live in the uk

Beastly immigrants, who hate other immigrants, the perfect Trump supporter.

 

[Mudug_gyal]

I consider myself as a Brit as the next person.

Noqon meysid weliga wabaa

 

[JamalFarah]

Most of the inhabitants along the Banaadir coast end up being primarily of Indian descent with a significant Somali background. The notion of them being Yemeni, and some even claiming to be Qurashi, is mostly fiction.

Mogadishu, an ancient city, was historically governed by Somalis during ever period.

In antiquity, the ancient city of Sarapion is believed to have been the predecessor state of Mogadishu. It is mentioned in the Periplus of the Erythraean Sea, a Greek travel document dating from the first century AD, as one of a series of commercial ports on the Somali peninsula. According to the Periplus, maritime trade already connected peoples in the Mogadishu area with other similar communities along the Somali peninsula.

Logically, the Yemeni Cadcads should be most dominant the closer you get to Yemen – Saylac, Berbera, Mayd, Bosaso, etc. – but none are to be found. Almost like they aren't Yemeni.
But the Cadcad people are only found in the greater Banaadir area. There are plenty of tribal enclaves of differing Somali clans living all over. Where are those Cadcad communities?

Yaqut al-Hamawi, a Muslim medieval geographer in the year 1220, describes Mogadishu as the most prominent town on the coast. Yaqut also mentioned Mogadishu as being a town inhabited by Berbers, described as "dark-skinned" and considered ancestors of modern Somalis. By the thirteenth century, Ibn Sa'id described Mogadishu, Merca, and Barawa located in the Banaadir coast as having become Islamic and commercial centers in the Indian Ocean. He said the local people in the Banaadir coast and the interior were predominantly inhabited by Somalis, with a minority of Arab, Persian, and Indian merchants living in the coastal towns.

There is an increase not only in Cadcads but also Somali Bantus trying to erase Somali history and proclaim ethnic Somalis as an outside force that came in. The fact that Somali Bantus are screaming this while this is a group that came in the last 150 years, where the Italians themselves described Somalis going into the Congo and creating plantation economies along the banks of the Shebelle and Jubba shows just how blatantly unhistorical this is.

 

[Khaem]

Let us reserve the origin conversation for another day, shall we?

Alr

It was not just a migration, but more of an invasion post the collapse of the Roman empire, and annihilation of local tribes through raping and pillaging. I think it was 250,000 virile angry young Germans slaughtering the English men, raping all the women, and taking over the land, ergo Aegland.

The Anglo Saxons originally came to the island by being paid mercenaries. The roman retreat from their frontier provinces such as Britannia left the people there exposed to Irish and Scots tribes who invaded. These Anglo saxon mercenaries took over in a similar manner turkic mercenaries took over states in mena, however the Anglos carved up the island between themselves and ruled the Britons forcing an assimilation.

Of course war happened but you are making it seem like a genocide. The people of England are still overwhelmingly ethnic Britons.

for early English history i recommended these.

You are then anomaly, but then again, you are 1st generation. Wait till the 2nd generation. I consider myself as a Brit as the next person.

Im not an anomaly, this is perfectly normal for non-white immigrants.

 

[Mudug_gyal]

Most of the inhabitants along the Banaadir coast end up being primarily of Indian descent with a significant Somali background. The notion of them being Yemeni, and some even claiming to be Qurashi, is mostly fiction. Our ancestors were captivated by them because of their fairer skin compared to ours, but most of them arrived here as merchants.

Mogadishu, an ancient city, was historically governed by Somalis during ever period.

In antiquity, the ancient city of Sarapion is believed to have been the predecessor state of Mogadishu. It is mentioned in the Periplus of the Erythraean Sea, a Greek travel document dating from the first century AD, as one of a series of commercial ports on the Somali peninsula. According to the Periplus, maritime trade already connected peoples in the Mogadishu area with other similar communities along the Somali peninsula.

Logically, the Yemeni Cadcads should be most dominant the closer you get to Yemen – Saylac, Berbera, Mayd, Bosaso, etc. – but none are to be found. Almost like they aren't Yemeni.
But the Cadcad people are only found in the greater Banaadir area. There are plenty of tribal enclaves of differing Somali clans living all over. Where are those Cadcad communities?

Yaqut al-Hamawi, a Muslim medieval geographer in the year 1220, describes Mogadishu as the most prominent town on the coast. Yaqut also mentioned Mogadishu as being a town inhabited by Berbers, described as "dark-skinned" and considered ancestors of modern Somalis. By the thirteenth century, Ibn Sa'id described Mogadishu, Merca, and Barawa located in the Banaadir coast as having become Islamic and commercial centers in the Indian Ocean. He said the local people in the Banaadir coast and the interior were predominantly inhabited by Somalis, with a minority of Arab, Persian, and Indian merchants living in the coastal towns.

There is an increase not only in Cadcads but also Somali Bantus trying to erase Somali history and proclaim ethnic Somalis as an outside force that came in. The fact that Somali Bantus are screaming this while this is a group that came in the last 150 years, where the Italians themselves described Somalis going into the Congo and creating plantation economies along the banks of the Shebelle and Jubba shows just how blatantly unhistorical this is.

Don’t say captivated youre talking as if we werent bordered by arabs. We were literally the centre of world trade at some point we interacted with everyone even the romans and the mongols

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

Of course war happened but you are making it seem like a genocide. The people of England are still overwhelmingly ethnic Britons.

Actually, it was genocidal, if not worse. Have you watched the documentary by the historian David Starkey titled Aegland, well before he went to pots? It was a whole series on netflix, I think. I'll peek at the clips.

Im not an anomaly, this is perfectly normal for non-white immigrants.

Does that extend to B DeIsraeli and R Sunak?

 

[JamalFarah]

Don’t say captivated youre talking as if we werent bordered by arabs. We were literally the centre of world trade at some point we interacted with everyone even the romans and the mongols

Didn't use the right word, but Cadcads have always been treated way better than bantus and allowed to be married from and intermarry with. Somalis "accepted'' them more. Me personally, I believe its just colorism that Somalis all over suffer from.

It's not related to the point, I just wanted to illustrate colorism working in favor for the Cadcads historically.

 

[Mudug_gyal]

Didn't use the right word, but Cadcads have always been treated way better than bantus and allowed to be married from and intermarry with. Somalis "accepted'' them more. Me personally, I believe its just colorism that Somalis all over suffer from.

It's not related to the point, I just wanted to illustrate colorism working in favor for the Cadcads historically.

Factz. Poor bantu people always get the short end of the stick. Im an avid supporter and advocate for their equality. How can I be a bigot then? @

𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈​

 

[reer]

have you been to one?

no but they had that reputation.

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

Factz. Poor bantu people always get the short end of the stick. Im an avid supporter and advocate for their equality. How can I be a bigot then? @

𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈​

So, you do not discriminate against the Bantus, but make a special case for the Barawani et al? It is due to their socio-economic status, case in point Madhiban, Tumaal, Yibir etc, who are as Somali as any, yet not married from, which defeats the colourism argument.

 

[Mudug_gyal]

So, you do not discriminate against the Bantus, but make a special case for the Barawani et al? It is due to their socio-economic status, case in point Madhiban, Tumaal, Yibir etc, who are as Somali as any, yet not married from, which defeats the colourism argument.

 

[Khaem]

Actually, it was genocidal, if not worse. Have you watched the documentary by the historian David Starkey titled Aegland, well before he went to pots? It was a whole series on netflix, I think. I'll peek at the clips.

This is hugely disingenuous to say that some Anglo saxon tribes coming as mercenaries were able to genocide a population nearing 10 million.

We do not have mass graves or any left overs from a genocide to prove this theory.

"The Anglo-Saxon invasion of England, which took place in the 5th and 6th centuries, led to significant changes in the population and culture of the region. While there is historical debate about the extent of violence and displacement during this period, it is generally believed that the Anglo-Saxons did not exterminate the native Britons. Instead, there was likely a combination of integration, intermarriage, and cultural exchange between the Anglo-Saxons and the native Britons, leading to the development of a new Anglo-Saxon society in England."

"How much mutual acculturation took place is still the subject of considerable debate. One thing is sure, however: there was no mass extermination of the Britons. They fought, of course, here and there, but it was a migration rather than a conquest."

Does that extend to B DeIsraeli and R Sunak?

RIshi is indian there's no way you can claim him to be more Indian than British. He literally pulled a Diwali festival in no.10

And Prime minister Deisreali was of Jewish heritage but was raised an Anglican Christian by age 12 and was pretty British I'd say. You have to realise Jews were in England since crusader times. They are hardly the same Jews that were around in King Solomons time

 

[Yami]

Anglo saxons had already taken over Britain in the 800s AD. They were germanic tribes hired as mercenaries from around Denmark to Post roman brtiannia, modern England, to fight off the Scots and Irish tribes invasions into their land. But these germanic mercenaries decided since they were so powerful they took over the land and divided it into several Anglo Saxon Kingdoms.


This is not at all comparable to cadcads who are a urban coastal people of the banadir coast who only came into existence less than 800 years ago and are the product of mostly Indian but also Yemeni, Persian Trader along with Bantu slaves who came to the Somali metropolises of the southern coast and mixed with the native Somali.

However cadcad are distinct due to them being maternally Somali. The foriegners that intermarried with Somali men adopted their father's qabil and became somali. Whilst the maternally admixed one's eventually became a distinct group of mixed race peoples who are not exactly 'one group" but several communities of foriegn admixed Somali who live in the cities.



We all already know this

Tbf Cadaad's have been in Somalia for a very long time, longer then the 800 year estiment you gave. We have graves dating from 100 hijri of clear cadcads in xamar

 

[Yami]

Didn't use the right word, but Cadcads have always been treated way better than bantus and allowed to be married from and intermarry with. Somalis "accepted'' them more. Me personally, I believe its just colorism that Somalis all over suffer from.

It's not related to the point, I just wanted to illustrate colorism working in favor for the Cadcads historically.

There's jreers who've mixed with Somalis like cadcad has. Biyomaal in shabelle hoose are jreer

 

[wonyluvr]

There's jreers who've mixed with Somalis like cadcad has. Biyomaal in shabelle hoose are jreer

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jareeeeerweyne are cool

 

[Yami]

jareeeeerweyne are cool

These people are Dir not jreerweyn