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He will be the first oday to be arrested by both SL and Somalia.Gal dacwadeed has been filed {court order} the Boqor dun goofed! Mamuulka Benaadir will issue an arrest warrant soon for terrorist sympathizer
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He will be the first oday to be arrested by both SL and Somalia.Gal dacwadeed has been filed {court order} the Boqor dun goofed! Mamuulka Benaadir will issue an arrest warrant soon for terrorist sympathizer
Child soldiers, suicide, and he openly gave allegiance/sovereignty to a foreign group.What Godane do that any of the figures above haven't done already?
We have evidence he killed those who are working under the British but can you provide evidence of him glorifying killing of Somalis not under the British for the mere fact they arent his supporters? (non-British war period sources)Sayid declared war on the British and any Somali who apposes him was dubbed galo raac.
The ICU and AS both were working with Eritrea anyways to dislodge their rivals. Either way its a false parallel because one is literally gaalo-raac and colonial subjects and the other is just allied and taking weapons/training from gaalo as a sovereign entity to fight another group who took weapons and allegedly training from Eritrea.When they retreated to Berbera he still continued to wage war against any clan that doesn't obey him. Godane was still fighting the Ethiopians, Kenyans and AMISOM troops largely drawn from Christian Gaalo countries so you argument doesn't hold water as he views TFG as Gaalo raac as well.
This is a religous matter, to give the gaal label to anyone supporting the british against the Dervish was undoubtedly the rightful designation. If you want we can go the Quran for that.Just like the Sayid has considered the Somalis supported by British and Italians were Gaalo lackeys who's blood and wealth is xalaal.
Child soldiers, suicide, and he openly gave allegiance/sovereignty to a foreign group.
Godane is top 5 evil figures of Somali history and hes probably not 5
We have evidence he killed those who are working under the British but can you provide evidence of him glorifying killing of Somalis not under the British for the mere fact they arent his supporters? (non-British war period sources)
Most of his actions were proudly spoken about in his poems shouldnt be hard to find if true.
The ICU and AS both were working with Eritrea anyways to dislodge their rivals. Either way its a false parallel because one is literally gaalo-raac and colonial subjects and the other is just allied and taking weapons/training from gaalo as a sovereign entity to fight another group who took weapons and allegedly training from Eritrea.
This is a religous matter, to give the gaal label to anyone supporting the british against the Dervish was undoubtedly the rightful designation. If you want we can go the Quran for that.
We call people from the former Italian Somalia WanlaweynYou know the term Wanlaweyn is an insult at the PL dominated SYL not reer Koonfur.
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Yeah And Killed The Natives There Lol At Dolhante Region@Kanan your entire argument relies on three things
These 3 are practically indefensible and yet im the one who hung myself.
- British colonial sources being unbias in a time of a war against Africans
- Somalia today or any state literally being a colony of a (christian) empire not hyperbolically
- AS having more religous authority then the current states
Also if you have a primary source to the illig agreement I would be more then happy to take it. The Italians in Illig retreated and it was made a base for the Dervish housing a castle/fort. By no accounts of the time were the Dervish referred to as part of the Italian colonies/protectorates. Rather they were seen as the victors liberating a new territory, Nugaal.
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It was also quite common for the Italians to forge different terms in the Italian version of contracts aswell but what we do have is the obvious reality the Dervish were the ones controlling the former Italian territory not the reverse along with the fact that he was offered a “country to the west” by the British but refused.
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@Kanan your entire argument relies on three things
These 3 are practically indefensible and yet im the one who hung myself.
- British colonial sources being unbias in a time of a war against Africans
- Somalia today or any state literally being a colony of a (christian) empire not hyperbolically
- AS having more religous authority then the current states
Also if you have a primary source to the illig agreement I would be more then happy to take it. The Italians in Illig retreated and it was made a base for the Dervish housing a castle/fort. By no accounts of the time were the Dervish referred to as part of the Italian colonies/protectorates. Rather they were seen as the victors liberating a new territory, Nugaal.
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It was also quite common for the Italians to forge different terms in the Italian version of contracts aswell but what we do have is the obvious reality the Dervish were the ones controlling the former Italian territory not the reverse along with the fact that he was offered a “country to the west” by the British but refused.
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He was a Salafite criminal who killed Sh Aweys al Qaadiri. Peaceful sufis will never support that mad man.View attachment 208134
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This dude was insane Khawariji through and through.
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This dude was insane Khawariji through and through.
Fake British propaganda.
What a dumb take their is no motive for the British to make up all of those refrences to clan settlement in JL. Their is great motive for two warring parties to use hyperbole against each other. Heres a resource to teach you what you missed in school.- When you use British records to affirm Ogaden right in Jubaland it is not a biased source but when I use it to prove Darawish brutality it's suddenly not good enough. An Archive written in realtime holds more water than a poem.
The point is mute but you continue to argue it and still fail to provide evidence that Somalia is literally a colony(not hyperbole)- This point is mute, if Abdalla Hassan was alive today he'd wage jihad against SFG including your very own Jubaland state. By his own standards Somalia today is run by corrupt secular politicians spoon feed by Gaalo.
I have many posts explaining my position regarding Gedo I dont know what posts your talking about nor do I really care your grasping at straws.- Off course it does you think Al Shabaab care about democracy, 4.5 or FMS propped up by Kenyans/Ethiopians. I've seen you before brage about Kenyan troops when FKDing Marexaan that's the furthest thing from Islam. You literally hold two contradicting views when it comes to Islam & Jubaland state.
Your own source clearly sets the difference between the Dervish dependents(Dhulos etc) and the dependents of the British(Isaaq) and Italys dependents(MJs). Italy is the one that ceded territory for a dervish base this is like saying Somalia made Erdogan a colonial subject because the turkish base in Somalia has a Somali flagThe terms of Pestalozza agreement were clear.
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There are extensive correspondences between the British & Ina Hassan detailing his manipulation of clans and the geopolitics at that time. But it's rather clear he willingly agreed to become an Italian subject in exchange for self governance, the very thing he waged war against other Somalis for.
lol AS have given themselves years ago and regularly openly renew their allegiance. He didnt fight to the bitter end he sent 15 year olds to suicide and died in a strike whilst regularly hiding his face from the public thinking he was safe.At least Godane didn't submit to foreign powers and fought to the bitter end.
I don’t trust colonist sources, racists who wiped out half of humanity, who’s point is to spread bad news and evil things about their enemies.Dude he broke the agreement of Pestalozza, gathered his forces at Garow, ran through Sool and your hometown Buuhoodle. If it wasn't for the Indian troops disembarking he would've probably ran through Burco & Berbera as well.
His brutal, cutthroat opportunistic antics is what made him last so long.
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There should be a collection of history from our side in a book from that time but sadly most of them are dead or dying.The Sayid was the victor over the Italians in NugaalView attachment 208146
It was a success because it led to the withdrawal of the british and the Dervishes reached Berbera
The Sayid was also given the designation Emir of The Somali by the Ottoman Caliph
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What a dumb take their is no motive for the British to make up all of those refrences to clan settlement in JL. Their is great motive for two warring parties to use hyperbole against each other. Heres a resource to teach you what you missed in school.
The point is mute but you continue to argue it and still fail to provide evidence that Somalia is literally a colony(not hyperbole)
Your own source clearly sets the difference between the Dervish dependents(Dhulos etc) and the dependents of the British(Isaaq) and Italys dependents(MJs). Italy is the one that ceded territory for a dervish base this is like saying Somalia made Erdogan a colonial subject because the turkish base in Somalia has a Somali flag
Can one man be so stupid as to claim the dervish as a colony of italy against England? The conspiracy theories just to prove your adeer Godane wasnt a scumbag
lol AS have given themselves years ago and regularly openly renew their allegiance. He didnt fight to the bitter end he sent 15 year olds to suicide and died in a strike whilst regularly hiding his face from the public thinking he was safe.