Tukraq
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True, that’s for unequal society’s in general, not in healthy capitalist unequal societies like the US
Any Leftists on the forum
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If people dont get their basic needs like, free healthcare +Mentalcare, free educating and places kids/teenagers can go after school, ofcourse poor communities are going to suffer, all these basic things are known for improving peoples lives, being physically and mentally healthy, educated and occupied with social activities decreases the likelyhood of becoming a criminal. Thats why these basic utilites shouldnt just be available for rich people but socialised.
Idow
The revolution shall come comrades.
Which of their economic policies do you not agree with?
VixR
Veritas
They can cut the fat from healthcare and education without the high spending (and lack of choice) that’ll raise everyone’s taxes, including the middle class, and disencentivize smart people from growing, and taking risks. Nothing is free.
VixR
Veritas
That’s a lie, my friend. Bernie doesn’t deny it. Warren does, and she’s been doing everything she can to dodge the question.
Our system can’t support their ideas.
The wealthiest country in the world cant support basic things like m4a?
And did you even look at the chart? Bernie wants to increase the tax for the mega rich not middle class.
VixR
Veritas
Its they’ll pay less in healthcare, not in taxes. The middle class will get higher taxes, which makes sense. The money has to come from somewhere (the mega rich can’t carry all of America on its back). Listen beyond the spiel.
Yes, the taxes for the middle class wil increase BUT not by a lot as i said previously. but you wont be paying for any medical treatment, and lets not talk about if you break something or get badly sick. M4A is economically more efficient for everyone except the Mega rich. Every devoloped country has free healthcare.
VixR
Veritas
Americans are having a hard time not living off their goddamned parents well into adulthood. Taxing them to death on stagnant wages for a mandatory M4A plan that you don’t have a choice of opting into, when they can trim the fat and improve on the ACA, and target pharma for the exorbitant prices that exist only in America. just doesn’t make sense. America isn’t Canada, isn’t the U.K. We’re huge.
VixR
Veritas
I also don’t like how they’re full-on blindly attacking large corporations.
Guess who’s not breaking up their corps? Our competitors! Our American giants can’t go toe to toe with giants from other countries, like China, if they’re being neutered beyond repair by their own governments, with chants like, “ It’s time to break up X,Y, Z”
Zuckerberg always seemed out of his element in the govt hearings when I’ve watched, and I totally understood the Dems on the gravity of how foreign agents used our platforms against us to influence our politics, but he honestly couldn’t have made more sense than he did here:
Guess who’s not breaking up their corps? Our competitors! Our American giants can’t go toe to toe with giants from other countries, like China, if they’re being neutered beyond repair by their own governments, with chants like, “ It’s time to break up X,Y, Z”
Zuckerberg always seemed out of his element in the govt hearings when I’ve watched, and I totally understood the Dems on the gravity of how foreign agents used our platforms against us to influence our politics, but he honestly couldn’t have made more sense than he did here:
I vote for democrats and liberals out of my interest and for their good social policies compared to anyone who is conservative and republican. The latter tend to serve greed, corruption and the wealthy. Money worshippers cloaked as religious. Religion to them is equivalent to their race so they confound the two and defend their race as their religion. There is much harm to humanity that comes from Republicans in America including the masses whom they convince to vote for them. I have zero respect for anyione who identifies themselves as Republican to me. Either ignorant misinformed person or racist.
What are you even talking about?
"Americans are having a hard time not living off their goddamned parents well into adulthood. Taxing them to death" Under bernies plan people "having a hard time living off" wont see their taxes going up.
And absolutely the US can pay for it. Indonesia has a population of 270m and a gpd of 1 trillion while the US has 320m population and gpd of 19 trillion now guess which one has universal healthcare?
Ok so we should just let these corrupt companies like facebook break privacy laws as long as they can compete with china?
Idow
The revolution shall come comrades.
She won’t respond anymore she is to busy deep throating that boot.
Idow
The revolution shall come comrades.
We spend 568 billion on military alone.
Tukraq
VIP
in my opinion crime is neutral and not a bad thing for a countries economy, yes It docent add anything outside of drugs, but it technically dosent take much either
I am not an ideologue but I do consider myself leftist and I only support the far left parties.
A big reason why people support the right and even centrism is cause of how easy it is to dumb down and sell to people.
Big free markets, competition fairness, equal playing field, small government, no redtape.
It's all bullshit but if you pound it home to people it's actually what they believe.
Take the deficit for example anytime leftist parties want to fund programs that will improve the quality of life of people (free education/dental/healthcare/pharmacare) they ask how are you going to pay for that we can't afford that.
However when the conservatives get into power they pass a tax bill that allows the ultra rich oligarchs of America to pocket more money from not paying taxes and this increases the deficit showing you they never cared about the deficit.
Meanwhile liberals keep the status quo as the implicit stewards of the ruling class that play a good cop to conservative bad cop and focus mostly on identity politics, gender PR bullshit and LGBT wedge issues and (my personal favorite) hollow immigration reform/compassion.
Look no further than our own Trudeau the guys welcomes immigrants being hunted like dogs for deportation in the US to come to Canada cause he can't call out Trump's racist Muslim ban so that makes people take an arduous journey though the Prairie winter to make it to Canada only to be deported back to Haiti anyway.
In my eyes there is no difference between the liberal centrists and far right conservatives. At least the cons will hate and murder poor people with their chests.
This is without even mentioning the villainous foreign policy of liberal centrist governments in the west over the past 20 years. Truly cursed people and honestly the number 1 reason I pray and have faith there is an afterlife. They can't get away with this shit man.
A big reason why people support the right and even centrism is cause of how easy it is to dumb down and sell to people.
Big free markets, competition fairness, equal playing field, small government, no redtape.
It's all bullshit but if you pound it home to people it's actually what they believe.
Take the deficit for example anytime leftist parties want to fund programs that will improve the quality of life of people (free education/dental/healthcare/pharmacare) they ask how are you going to pay for that we can't afford that.
However when the conservatives get into power they pass a tax bill that allows the ultra rich oligarchs of America to pocket more money from not paying taxes and this increases the deficit showing you they never cared about the deficit.
Meanwhile liberals keep the status quo as the implicit stewards of the ruling class that play a good cop to conservative bad cop and focus mostly on identity politics, gender PR bullshit and LGBT wedge issues and (my personal favorite) hollow immigration reform/compassion.
Look no further than our own Trudeau the guys welcomes immigrants being hunted like dogs for deportation in the US to come to Canada cause he can't call out Trump's racist Muslim ban so that makes people take an arduous journey though the Prairie winter to make it to Canada only to be deported back to Haiti anyway.
In my eyes there is no difference between the liberal centrists and far right conservatives. At least the cons will hate and murder poor people with their chests.
This is without even mentioning the villainous foreign policy of liberal centrist governments in the west over the past 20 years. Truly cursed people and honestly the number 1 reason I pray and have faith there is an afterlife. They can't get away with this shit man.
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