What is the difference between an AA and a somali?

Is there a difference?

  • Yes

    Votes: 51 68.9%
  • No

    Votes: 14 18.9%
  • Yes but veeeeery slight

    Votes: 9 12.2%

  • Total voters
    74
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Sophisticate

~Gallantly Gadabuursi~
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I would like to think I'm the last one

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The sane ones are boring.:yacadiim: The Qac one's catch your eye (like a roadside collision with a gasoline truck) while the normies fade into the background like pedestrians. Are you a pedestrian?
 
BLACK REPRESNT THE BAD AMERICA CULTURE, DRUGS, GANGS, MUSIC, USELESS ENTERTAINMENT AND SPORTS, MOST OF THEM ARE UNEDUCATED.

WHILE WHITE REPRESENT THE WORLD CLASS PROGRESSIVE INNOVATIVE AMERICAN CULTURE, BLACKS MAKE UP 0.01% OF STEM .

Friend you underestimate the power of culture. Look in your own backyard and how the arabs have dominated your society not with science but with culture and you'd have to be blind to underestimate the power of culture. Americas cultural export highly influenced by african americans is one of the reasons why the world sits up and pays attention to it.

In the caribbean...jamaica is poor and beautiful but its impact culturally is felt worldwide.
just another example of the power of culture.

You've been enlightened.
 

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~Gallantly Gadabuursi~
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Friend you underestimate the power of culture. Look in your own backyard and how the arabs have dominated your society not with science but with culture and you'd have to be blind to underestimate the power of culture. Americas cultural export highly influenced by african americans is one of the reasons why the world sits up and pays attention to it.

In the caribbean...jamaica is poor and beautiful but its impact culturally is felt worldwide.
just another example of the power of culture.

You've been enlightened.

When people think of culture popculture does not spring to mind. I agree that Blacks from the Islands and Americas have left their mark however I disagree with the idea that Somalis are in any manner dominated by Arabs. That is incorrect and an oversimplification. Minor influences based on religion don't amount to much. Unlike other groups Somalis have not been Arabized. They speak a different native language with structural linguistic differences, have different cultural traditions and different progenitors. Are Indonesians and Indian Muslims, Arab, now? And are they dominated by Arabs, either? -Nope. I think this old narrative needs to die.
 
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When people think of culture popculture does not spring to mind. I agree that Blacks from the Islands and Americas have left their mark however I disagree with the idea that Somalis are in any manner dominated by Arabs. That is incorrect and an oversimplification. Minor influences based on religion don't amount to much. Unlike other groups Somalis have not been Arabized. They speak a different native language with structural linguistic differences, have different cultural traditions and different progenitors. Are Indonesians and Indian Muslims, Arab, now?

would you call Jazz pop culture?

But somalis themselves admit to this don't they? Don't the manner of dress that obtains in somalia follow the direction of arabs for the most part? I'm sure there are differences but from what i see somalis base their lives on being muslim and the muslim agenda is set by the arabs so its impossible to extricate yourself from arab culture if they are who you are looking to for direction of your life. Nuh true!??
 

Sophisticate

~Gallantly Gadabuursi~
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But somalis themselves admit to this don't they? Don't the manner of dress that obtains in somalia follow the direction of arabs for the most part? From what i see somalis base their lives on being muslim and the muslim agenda is set by the arabs so its impossible to extricate yourself from arab culture if they are who you are looking to for direction of your life. Nuh true!??

Dude. :dead:So Islam somehow entirely subverts local cultures infusing them with Arab culture? Try telling Nigerian or Sengalese Muslims. They seem to be strongly culturally rooted. And they don't speak Arabic either. Hmmm... wasn't Mensa Musa one of the richest men in history at one point?

Also, Arabs are not a monolith but if we're talking Gulf. Loan words do not change the structure of a language. And Somali is quite different from Arabic. For Somalis their manner of dress changed after the war which is normal given a religious rival. Also, why are Somalis quite permissive compared to some Gulf Arabs in term of how they treat their women. Prior to the war Somali women were apart of the the Somali National Army.:draketf: Somali women never had to travel accompanied by a relative and they were among the first to drive in the UAE

:mugshotman: Don't go preaching gospel, homie.
 
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Dude. :dead:So Islam somehow entirely subverts local cultures infusing them with Arab culture? For starters Arabs are not a monolith but if we're talking Gulf. Loan words do not change the structure of a language. And Somali is quite different from Arabic. For Somalis their manner of dress changed after the war which is normal given a religious rival. Also, why are Somalis quite permissive compared to some Gulf Arabs in term of how they treat their women. Prior to the war Somali women were apart of the the Somali National Army.:draketf: Somali women never had to travel accompanied by a relative and they were among the first to drive in the UAE

:mugshotman: Don't go preaching gospel, homie.

I take your points but you cannot dismiss what i'm saying out of hand. Its the same for many blacks in the west who look to italy or europe in general for direction because the church they belong too is head-quartered in Europe. Its just common sense that if an ethnic group sets the direction for your religion then depending on how staunch a follower you are your life in many important cultural ways will mimic that ethnic group's.
 

Sophisticate

~Gallantly Gadabuursi~
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I take your points but you cannot dismiss what i'm saying out of hand. Its the same for many blacks in the west who look to italy or europe in general for direction because the church they belong too is head-quartered in Europe. Its just common sense that if an ethnic group sets the direction for your religion then depending on how staunch a follower you are your life in many important cultural ways will mimic that ethnic group's.

Fair enough. Though I think its very nuanced. :farmajoyaab: If anything, no one would be checking for either if they still were pagans.
 
Wtf are you talking about? Non-Muslim Arabs are far more likely to disassociate being Arab and claim white so there in fact could be a bias. The non-Muslim Arab American diaspora percentage could be higher than the reported numbers(76 %).

Clearly the Arab diaspora who succeed are the non-Muslim ones. Whilst the Muslim ones in Europe, are complete failures. Maybe Muslims aren’t hard workers and educated. No? Maybe that could be what is holding Somalis back?
lmao what are you tryna say @World ? I live in a city with a large arab muslim population and they're doing well. But of course almost all of the ones who've immigrated here came as highly skilled immigrants and not refugees. What @zeinap83 said is true about the ones in North America. Or are you arguing for the sake of arguing.
 
@zeinap83 you've brought some harsh realities upfront and redpilled us. There are delusional ones that run rampant in our community with a false sense of pride and grandeur in their ancestors/tribal achievements while looking down at others. Is that something to have pride in?,why not be proud of what you've accomplished and not piggy bank on the accomplishments of your ancestors or your looks (WTF).


We have high divorce rates, many boys in jail, and girls that can't find a suitable spouse. At least in the west, our problems are very similar to AA in many ways and we can't deny that.


We need to be self critical and contemplate on our failures and successes as a community. We need to come together as a community in our cities and try to work on them. For some reason we have many that won't accept any criticism from other somalis and will call you a self-hater. How can you grow as a person, if you don't do that. I swear some of these guys on here sound so uneducated.


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@zeinap83 you've brought some harsh realities upfront and redpilled us. There are delusional ones that run rampant in our community with a false sense of pride and grandeur in their ancestors/tribal achievements while looking down at others. Is that something to have pride in?,why not be proud of what you've accomplished and not piggy bank on the accomplishments of your ancestors or your looks (WTF).


We have high divorce rates, many boys in jail, and girls that can't find a suitable spouse. At least in the west, our problems are very similar to AA in many ways and we can't deny that.


We need to be self critical and contemplate on our failures and successes as a community. We need to come together as a community in our cities and try to work on them. For some reason we have many that won't accept any criticism from other somalis and will call you a self-hater. How can you grow as a person, if you don't do that. I swear some of these guys on here sound so uneducated.


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@GeKo its not about the message itself but the delivery. How many Somalis are really in jail relative to the general Somali population in a given region? What is the highschool completion rate of Somalis? How many of those individual go on to attend post secondary? What majors are they concentrated in? How can we form an accurate picture of what's happening on the ground when we don't even have data to give weight to our claims. Its mostly just he said, she said. We don't even know about the gravity of some of these issues, we're just aware that they are occurring. I'm not likely to take it very seriously because it comes off as calcaaling.
 
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@GeKo its not about the message itself but the delivery. How many Somalis are really in jail relative to the general Somali population in a given region? What is the highschool completion rate? How many of those individual go on to attend post secondary? What majors are they concentrated in? How can we form an accurate picture of what's happening on the ground when we don't even have data to give weight to our claims. Its mostly just he said, she said. We don't even know about the gravity of these issues.

Well in my city, news about each other goes around fast and sometimes just reading the local news you'll find a somali being mentioned. I can talk about anecdotal evidence and the number of times I've seen/heard about them but I don't have hard stats. I personally know mothers/fathers/brothers/sisters who've had divorces, dropping out, drugs, crime, jail, marrying out, no ambition, failures.There were stats done in Toronto that showed somalis were one of the lowest performing in HS, the school board tried to do a special program for them but was later cancelled because of the stigma associated with that.

These are the same issues that are happening with every somali community, so lets not act like this doesn't happen just because there are no statistics on it. I'm involved in the relatively small somali community here so I know what goes around. Somalis are not many in my city btw.
 

samaalewarrior

Cushitic general
Another difference is that AA men are wayyyy confident and will approach women easily. That’s why they have a rep of being fuckboys..which can be a negative.

But Somalians on the other hand wack off at home until their parents can arrange a cousin marriage for them. Lol!
Are these your female relatives thirsting in the comments? :lolbron:
 

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~Gallantly Gadabuursi~
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Well in my city, news about each other goes around fast and sometimes just reading the local news you'll find a somali being mentioned. I can talk about anecdotal evidence and the number of times I've seen/heard about them but I don't have hard stats. I personally know mothers/fathers/brothers/sisters who've had divorces, dropping out, drugs, crime, jail, marrying out, no ambition, failures.There were stats done in Toronto that showed somalis were one of the lowest performing in HS, the school board tried to do a special program for them but was later cancelled because of the stigma associated with that.

These are the same issues that are happening with every somali community, so lets not act like this doesn't happen just because there are no statistics on it. I'm involved in the relatively small somali community here so I know what goes around.

I'm not discounting what you're saying nor claiming it doesn't go on aka willful ignorance. It just gets old hearing this stuff ad nauseum or embellished with exaggerations. Though it's ancedotal to an extent I'm sure there is some merit to the lived experiences of Somalis in your community. They know their issues quite well. However, I just like seeing numbers.

In terms of Toronto, the Star ran a fradulent article with respect to highschool competition. Leave it to them to eschew the narrative. They aren't even statistically literate. What I can tell you is that they used a older cohort of people that went to highschool in the 00s and tried to extrapolate that data to students in the 2010s. :siilaanyolaugh: And you know what. Somali high school completion rates are practically in parity to the average now.
 
I'm not discounting what you're saying nor claiming it doesn't go on aka willful ignorance. It just gets old hearing this stuff ad nauseum or embellished with exaggerations. Though it's ancedotal to an extent I'm sure there is some merit to the lived experiences of Somalis in your community. They know their issues quite well. However, I just like seeing numbers.

In terms of Toronto, the Star ran a fradulent article with respect to highschool competition. Leave it to them to eschew the narrative. They aren't even statistically literate. What I can tell you is that they used a older cohort of people that went to highschool in the 00s and tried to extrapolate that data to students in the 2010s. :siilaanyolaugh: And you know what. Somali high school completion rates are practically in parity to the average now.
Is that you in your dp:wowsweat:?
 

Mali Mo

I still dont give a f*ck
Another difference is that AA men are wayyyy confident and will approach women easily. That’s why they have a rep of being fuckboys..which can be a negative.

But Somalians on the other hand wack off at home until their parents can arrange a cousin marriage for them. Lol!
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AA are negros or bantu
-ancestors spoke mande (bantu)
-ancestors had negrodic features
-ancestors originated in west africa
-ancestors had animistic beliefs

Somalis are cushitic
-ancestors spoke somali (afro asaitic)
-ancestors had east african features
-ancestors originated east africa
-ancestors had deisitc beliefs
 
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