Why Do These Secessionist Believe They Defeated Siad Barre 🀣

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If anyone can take credit for defeating Siyaab Barre it is SPM and USC. SPM made it all the way to Afgooye and USC made it all the way to Balcad and then eventually entered Xamar unilaterally (the agreement was to enter together). That was when SPM decided to let MSB go free which angered USC and triggered the Hawiye Darod war
 

Mohmed

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If anyone can take credit for defeating Siyaab Barre it is SPM and USC. SPM made it all the way to Afgooye and USC made it all the way to Balcad and then eventually entered Xamar unilaterally (the agreement was to enter together). That was when SPM decided to let MSB go free which angered USC and triggered the Hawiye Darod war
Spm kuyeh 🀣🀣🀣.
Bro just stop it i wil shiw u a video where ogaden refugees were armed by siad bare to kil gawiyes in beledweyne even after his fall walhi .
Ogaden were loyap to siad bare but switched sides when they realised it was over for him
 

Karim

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HALYEEY
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SNM stormed Burao and Hargeisa in 1988 but then felt the full force of the army and ran back to their caves.
Not a single district was under SNM control when Siad Barre fled Mogadishu on 26th of January, 1991. It's all bs and chest beating hoax for their misinformed people.
 

TekNiKo

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Whats ironic is MSB focused majority of his military in the north due to rebellion. USC only won because the most elite forces were with General Abiaziz Ali Barre in Waqooyi Galbeed. He held Hargeisa three days after Siad fell and withdrew later. So yes, without SNM USC wouldve been spectacularly defeated.

I have to give Isaaq their due credit.
 
Whats ironic is MSB focused majority of his military in the north due to rebellion. USC only won because the most elite forces were with General Abiaziz Ali Barre in Waqooyi Galbeed. He held Hargeisa three days after Siad fell and withdrew later. So yes, without SNM USC wouldve been spectacularly defeated.

I have to give Isaaq their due credit.
Wasn’t Jees in the north and is accused of giving weapons to his reer abti ?
 

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If anyone can take credit for defeating Siyaab Barre it is SPM and USC. SPM made it all the way to Afgooye and USC made it all the way to Balcad and then eventually entered Xamar unilaterally (the agreement was to enter together). That was when SPM decided to let MSB go free which angered USC and triggered the Hawiye Darod war
Nah SPM entered Xamar on Jan.23 the decision to let MSB go was off a whim and the right decision imo even if nobody appreciates it.

The Manifesto Hawiye attacked the SPM in Afgooye purely out of Darood hatred and what I believe is shame.
Spm kuyeh 🀣🀣🀣.
Bro just stop it i wil shiw u a video where ogaden refugees were armed by siad bare to kil gawiyes in beledweyne even after his fall walhi .
Ogaden were loyap to siad bare but switched sides when they realised it was over for him
The SPM was formed in the mid 80s when Gabayow was arrested and MX tried forcing themselves into Waamo.

It was over for MSB when the Ogaden who made up the largest bulk of the army mutineed. The Hawiye were still doing meetings in Italy when we were with MSB lets not lie here :icon lol:
Wasn’t Jees in the north and is accused of giving weapons to his reer abti ?
Your damn right he mutineed and left the loot for the SNM :salute:
 
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Spm kuyeh 🀣🀣🀣.
Bro just stop it i wil shiw u a video where ogaden refugees were armed by siad bare to kil gawiyes in beledweyne even after his fall walhi .
Ogaden were loyap to siad bare but switched sides when they realised it was over for him

History is written. Founders and sponsors of USC were all Murusade.

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It was USC and SNM who brought the government down 21st division and 26th dicison were Somalia’s elite divisions equipment and manpower wise.
 
History is written. Founders and sponsors of USC were all Murusade.

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Are you proud of USC's legacy, of rape, robbery and mass displacement? Even the cadcad girls didn't escape USC, when they were hidden in the masjids.

And then, these wildlings, turned on each other, which is why Hawiye followed Daarood as qaxooti, but these braindead beasts are considered 'mujahids' for some people.
 
Like who the hell hype these niggas up for them to just lie
Ms. Ciyaal qaxooti SNM was the main opposition rebel armed group in the 80s that the regime put all of it's armed forces in the North were a military curfew was imposed with the intelligence service NSS was tasked of combating SNM operations inside and outside of the country with any sympathizer of the rebel group was straightly sent to jail where they were tortured and executed.

USC was funded and financed by SNM as the struggle became more of difficult one for the movement to fight in several fronts so they helped to form a Hawiye dominated armed group in the south led by the veteran Gen Caydiid who took over SNM military bases in the south thus opening a several fronts against the regime helping SNM to gain more territory and ground in the Northern regions and districts.

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Subsequently, guerilla warfare spread quickly to the central and southern parts of the country as Hawiye and other clans rebelled, receiving crucial financial and logistical support from the SNM.
Eventually, the SNM would aid Gen. Mohamed Aideed’s successful ouster of Siad Barre from
Mogadishu.

https://merip.org/2002/06/financing-terrorism-or-survival/
 
SNM stormed Burao and Hargeisa in 1988 but then felt the full force of the army and ran back to their caves.
Not a single district was under SNM control when Siad Barre fled Mogadishu on 26th of January, 1991. It's all bs and chest beating hoax for their misinformed people.
Hargeisa and all major cities were under SNM siege for 2 years with most of the north falling under SNM including the border districts to Ethiopia and Djibouti


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Are you proud of USC's legacy, of rape, robbery and mass displacement? Even the cadcad girls didn't escape USC, when they were hidden in the masjids.

And then, these wildlings, turned on each other, which is why Hawiye followed Daarood as qaxooti, but these braindead beasts are considered 'mujahids' for some people.

USC has nothing to do with rape and robbery. That’s the doings of certain people with no imaan.
 
USC has nothing to do with rape and robbery. That’s the doings of certain people with no imaan.

Oh please, USC was ALL about rape and robbery, they didn't leave behind any legacy except for pure, unadulterated violence. I, for one, can't wait to see how these thugs will suffer in the hereafter. Dirty rapists.
 
Oh please, USC was ALL about rape and robbery, they didn't leave behind any legacy except for pure, unadulterated violence. I, for one, can't wait to see how these thugs will suffer in the hereafter. Dirty rapists.

Just because I support Arsenal football club doesn’t mean that Arsenal will take full responsibilities for all my actions.

Cali wardhiigley (Murusade) led the USC, he was heir to the presidency if Afwayne was to be overthrown, after he died in Rome he was replaced by Ismail Jimcaale (Waceysle) who died shortly after, then leadership went to USC Mogadishu which was headed by Hashi Weheliya (Abakr Murusade) he died too in a bomb attack that killed him and Muse Boqor who were manifesto allies and very important figures that tried to cool down the violence. Then Ali Mahdi took the helm and by then Afwayne was overthrown thus giving Ali Mahdi the ultimate chance to take presidency.

Initially Aidid believed no one should declare presidency until a consesus deal with other jabhads was reached, Mahdi was more concerned with the continuation of the state, selecting Isaaq ex PM Arte who SNM didn't consider a representative for them. Mahdi as a civilian leader leaned on Manifesto who were Pre MSB leaders, and also leaned on Sulux a moderate faction of Barre's government like Arte. Aidid was more military minded and wanted to negotiate with rebel leaders with influence like SPM/SNM only. This was still salvageable as these negotiations went on for 6 months till june 1991. Then Ali Mahdi was elected formally in Djibouti and Aidid held his own ceremony as new USC chairman. The conflict started Mahdi asked for Aidid's militia to pay taxes while Aidid accused Mahdi of siphoning Italian government funds and not paying troops.
 
Just because I support Arsenal football club doesn’t mean that Arsenal will take full responsibilities for all my actions.

Cali wardhiigley (Murusade) led the USC, he was heir to the presidency if Afwayne was to be overthrown, after he died in Rome he was replaced by Ismail Jimcaale (Waceysle) who died shortly after, then leadership went to USC Mogadishu which was headed by Hashi Weheliya (Abakr Murusade) he died too in a bomb attack that killed him and Muse Boqor who were manifesto allies and very important figures that tried to cool down the violence. Then Ali Mahdi took the helm and by then Afwayne was overthrown thus giving Ali Mahdi the ultimate chance to take presidency.

Initially Aidid believed no one should declare presidency until a consesus deal with other jabhads was reached, Mahdi was more concerned with the continuation of the state, selecting Isaaq ex PM Arte who SNM didn't consider a representative for them. Mahdi as a civilian leader leaned on Manifesto who were Pre MSB leaders, and also leaned on Sulux a moderate faction of Barre's government like Arte. Aidid was more military minded and wanted to negotiate with rebel leaders with influence like SPM/SNM only. This was still salvageable as these negotiations went on for 6 months till june 1991. Then Ali Mahdi was elected formally in Djibouti and Aidid held his own ceremony as new USC chairman. The conflict started Mahdi asked for Aidid's militia to pay taxes while Aidid accused Mahdi of siphoning Italian government funds and not paying troops.


This is the political aside, you did not account for what happened on the ground, when those drug-addict rapists, went on a rampage. There was no discipline, no plan, other than to loot and rape everything with a pulse. That's the true legacy of mooryaanta USC, the worst group to set foot on Somali soil.
 
This is the political aside, you did not account for what happened on the ground, when those drug-addict rapists, went on a rampage. There was no discipline, no plan, other than to loot and rape everything with a pulse. That's the true legacy of mooryaanta USC, the worst group to set foot on Somali soil.
USC is far too complex for moriyaan to organise and operate. Innocent people did get killed and raped by moriyaan but that has nothing to do with the founders of USC whose main intentions were to free Somalia from Kacaanism.
 

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